Let’s Face the Facts.
1.Pakistan will never forgive India for the Bangladesh War.
2. Pakistan wants to rule the entire Kashmir and so does India. (No compromise can be made after so much blood has been spilled on that account).
3. Indian Government does not have any guts to take any direct/indirect action inside Pakistan, due to the nuclear threat, because taking military action inside Kashmir is inviting a nuclear war (which is wise by the way, we don’t want nuke strike on our country, will take centuries to recover).
4. Indian Government perhaps will take some action when the next terrorist strike hits the parliament and God forbids but takes some of our high profile ministers.
5. Indian Government is incapable for making drastic changes in the infrastructure and national security due to heavy corruption and our regional squabbling (no unity amongst our regional leaders).
Let’s Conclude: These terrorist attacks will keep happening. Every time Indian Government will show temporary anger and rhetoric and declare long list of assurances but will be back to the same square in few days. This is an endless cycle will continue till Pakistan finishes itself or leaders who will be born on both sides to unite hindus and muslims. Once upon a time Pakistani’s were Hindus too (ref: Indus civilization) and they had chosen to accept faith of Islam after muslims migrated from the middle east. Nothing was wrong in that but demand for a separate country was irrational. Since now history cannot be changed we must try to live united and in peace, just like Europeans did after many civil wars. At this time we don’t have any choice besides getting frustrated and angry sometime at Pakistan sometimes on our own politicians. Jai Hind.

For India to expect co-operation from Pakistan is a tall order. Whatever token co-operation that India gets is due to pressure from the US and the Europeans, and that too because they need India and Pakistan needs them.
Pakistan has become slightly docile and only slightly because of India's economic progress and hence it's influence in the trading world. This same change in attitude occoured of late in Ireland. Once the republic of Ireland became economically strong the Northern Irish attitude changed.
The only way India can get co-operation from Pakistan of the lattar's free will can be when India keeps growing economically and becomes stronger on the world stage. Blaming Dr. Manmohan Singh for his soft approach is only looking for a reason for the problem. As a highly respected leader his responses are those of a wise and learned man. Tough talk and action in this day and age is always counter productive in the longrun.
Pakistan on the other hand has a long way to go before it matures to a point that it's political leadership stops using fearmongering to rally its electorate. At the moment it is imperative for them to return to real civilian rule and that ain't about to happen anytime soon.

Has it made any difference in last so many years of peace talk? There is no point in starting talks with Pakistan because Pakistan’s army will not be satisfied until you give them Bangladesh and Kashmir and Pakistan currently does not have the mature leadership. India should focus on its economical growth, infrastructural development, national security and uniting divided Indians. Absolutely no talks with Pakistan until Pakistan based perpetrators of Mumbai attack receive the justice they deserve. I also wanted to include my opinion about the main article. My apology to readers and the author if they think, my initial comments got carried away, however I believe they gives good insight why resuming peace talks or War with Pakistan will be pointless.

But one thing i don't understand that why always America becomes liberal against terror which is being organized by Taliban or any other illegal organization, Has America talked further to Pakistan for Mumbai 26/11 attack? As per SYR Gilani if there may be further talk with India, it will be scoped only Kashmir Matter not for terrorist attacks. In this situation I don’t think that further talks will be helpful for India. All financial ads stopped by America to Pakistan and have bee started again a fund ‘Fund for fight against terror’

Today, America's most dangerous enemies are training and plotting in the tribal regions of northwestern Pakistan. This al Qaeda safe-haven is a direct result of a failed policy of war in Iraq.Instead of finishing the job against Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda in Afghanistan, we diverted our attention and resources to a war that should never have been authorized and waged. This allowed the terrorists to escape into Pakistan, where they have steadily rebuilt their strength and where they threaten America as well as Afghanistan and Pakistan. Barack Obama saw this danger early on, noting recently, “I can only repeat what I said nearly five years ago, during the run-up to this war. We are fighting on the wrong battlefield. The terrorists who attacked us and who continue to plot against us are resurgent in the hills between Afghanistan and Pakistan. They should have been our focus then. They must be our focus now.”
A few days ago, presidential hopeful Barack Obama said that the United States should pull our troops out of Iraq and redeploy them to Afghanistan to hunt for top terrorist targets in that country and in neighboring Pakistan. Barack Obama said that if the Pakistani president did not help in our efforts to catch top terrorist in northern Pakistan, that if he were President of the United States he would send U.S. troops into Pakistan and catch and/or kill the terrorist himself.

Talking to Pakistan is a criminal waste of time; its like talking to a dead end wall. When they DON'T see the reality, what's the use?? Any talks u start off with them, the very first word they will utter will be KASHMIR. U talk further, they will still say KASHMIR and still further again KASHMIR. They should know that in KASHMIR barring a few lumpen elements, the rest of Kashmiris want to be with India since they know their career growth, future and life is safe, secured and bright with India.

I am afraid, talking to Pakistan will take us nowhere except up the path of no return.

Pakistan is a terror state and will remain one no matter what. For the US it is a state that they use as and how they please. With no sign of the recession ending anytime soon the US needs India and China the two large markets with a huge middle-clase market. at the same time they need pakistan too, to fight its war against the militants hence Pakistans interest in initiating a dialogue.

As far as India is concerned we as a country have to take a tough stand and at every given opportunity exploit the situation in projecting Paksitan as a terror state. at the same time it has to open its policies of hot persuit of the terrorists who attack us, the world will not criticise us for doing that as we have every right to protect ourselves as the US is to protect themselves.

India should also explore the possibility of helping the insurgents inside Pakistan who are fighting for a separate Sindh and baluchistan is one option that has to be kept open if the tensions in Kashmir and other parts of India increases

There seems no sanity among the top leadership in pakistan...each expressing his own views. Moreover USA seems to be losing sanity as well supporting pakistan with "AID" when the situation is so volatile.

Do we need to live with all of this?

To say Pakistan wants Kashmir is for Indians to be blind. Many Pakistanis believe that Hindus have illegitimately taken power at Indian's centre after the British left. They believe that India should be primarily Islamic, with Hindus and others living or being alive at the mercy of Islamic rulers' will. This is their ultimate objective. And the West, which professedly believes in freedom of religion, has betrayed its own lack of understanding in the matter by recognising the Islamic World. I mean, if one believes seriously in the right to freedom of religion, then one should advocate that everyone on this planet has the right to practice and preach his religion anywhere on this planet. The Islamic world clearly does not live up to this tenet (and neither does the Christian world, though they get away with it a little more). So when the west recognises the Muslim world, it betrays its own ideals. Once ideals are betrayed, no objectives can be realised. The Muslim world, including Pakistan, believes that they are the resurrecters of mankind -- never mind that they are scientifically, mathematically, philosophically, technologically and humanly the most incompetent people on the planet and Islam has only served to aggravate such qualities. The Muslim world through Islam has offered nothing to the planet. Iran is what it is because of its pre Islamic culture. So is Turkey. So are Malaysia, Indonesia. The Middle East was nothing in the 1960s till oil was discovered, and oil is not a gift of the prophet Muhamad's knowledge. Pakistan rejected its culture and is currently a monstrosity. Pakistanis are worse than Bangladeshis when it comes to ignorance and self denial.

We Indians have a little bit of remaining common sense from our cultural past, but our modern media and culturally bankrupt actors and politicians, along with corrupt speculators and intellectuals literally having abandoned this country (leaving Sonia to rule), not much hope remains now.

All the comments are excellent and all of them make sense. We cannot control Pakistan neither can we win them with love there is a saying "don't play with a PIG you both will get dirty and the PIG will enjoy it" the more we won't peace with them more they will misuse us.
But what we can do is:
1. Please be united among ourselves.
2. Throw out all the illegal Bangladeshi's outside of our country a report say there are around 4 crores of them.
3. Please do not have any Pakistani artists come to India and work here we are a country of 1 Billion don't we enough talent who can work and make money rather than a Paki making Indian money and investing in Pakistan and in return Pakistan uses that money to produce more terrorists.
4. Please tighten our border with Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal I would say completely seal it and please ask the public for donation if you need I will be the first to donate with all my capacity.
5. Indian Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Buddhists, Hindu should all have equal rights no reservations for any one eg. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but no Muslim should be allowed to mary more than one women, or be paid 50% to go for Haj and there should be no accounting of HUF (which Hindu undivided family accounting) everything and every one should be equal with equal rights.
6. Please pay more to our security agencies and police force rather than spending money over our currupt politicians.
7. Anyone with a criminal record should not be allowed to contest for elections.
Please I don't want to hurt anyone's feeling but if we sit and think on these points they will surely make sense, and if someone wants to add more to this please do.
Thank you

Only safe time for the Indians and the world will come when the provinces of Sindh and Baluchistan becomes Independent, that will be the most prosperous time for the development of South Asia. There will be no Pakistan Punjabi Military (ISI)in control to oppose every peace process or Iran-Baluchista-Sindh-India gas pipeline.The South Asia will be the most progressive area of the world as India has grooved so far.

US wants an influence region in Asia-Pak
Pak bribed China with Akshai chin
US Military Aid to divert the war from them and make the world believe they never go with war.
The major wars of world will get over, if US does their job and stop thinking they should be Number one.

The country in question is a nation of terror & unfortunately finds support within India itself in the form of Islamic brotherhood. The media makes concerted efforts to hide this fact whilst the moderates within that community know themselves of support their compatriots gave to the Mumbai attackers without whom they would not have reached the shores of India. Its hard to fathom but a fact...& all this gets more cmplicated with the hardline right wingers who wage a war of words in the media potraying all of that community as ememy within. Can the BJP, shown the door by the people of India, tone down their anti minority rhetoric & get the Muslim community to understand they are citizens of the country & not enemies. Am pretty certain the Americans have their own agenda & cares little about what happens to India...so talking with them nor Pakistan serves the purpose at this point in time. What Indians, esp the right wingers, have to understand is the Pakis are an irresponsible nation witth nuclear weapons & India must try its best to get others do what it wants done & in case nothing works do whats next best..retaliate & finish off the rogue nation.

India keeps on falling into trap time in and time out on taking a tough stance against Pakistan and also to the the geopoltical games of USA to keep both India and Pakistan engaged in turmoil over Kashmir. The only person who stood boldly to nefarious designs of Pakistan was late Prime Minister Indira Gandhi. After repeated terrorist attacks, no country having courageous leadership would think of establishing any sort of dialogue with Pakistan. It is an insult to the brave Indian soldiers and commandos who have laid down their lives protecting India. The only engagement with Pakistan need to be to bring the ISI and its agents to book.

Its no use holding talks with Pakistan now or ever, because the talks will not succeed and will be like a "River of no return". Has India forgotten that Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, declared thousan years war against India. All talks will be linked to Jammu & Kashmir, and then there will be revenge factor for the break-up of Pakistan in 1971, and the humilation it suffered. All talks with that country are non-starters. At the same time, don't trust the USA, as it seems they only pay lip service to India, and reward Pakistan with military and monetary aid worth billions and billions of Dollars. JAI HIND.

I take strong exception to your words that "Pakistan has let off Hafiz Saeed". First of all it was not 'Pakistan' that released him but instead it was the decision of the Lahore High Court.

Secondly, in situations like these, taking an accused to a court would be the greatest mistake any government would commit. Courts decide thier matters on the basis of hard and concrete evidence and not on the basis of public sentiment or investigative journalism.

I bet even if you take Osama Bin Laden to any court in the world today, you may face great difficulty proving anything against him. In terrorist situations like these you should not take suspects to courts but instead you detain them, restrict thier movement, keep strict check on thier dealings and most importantly build a strong case against them if you are fully convinced of thier involvement.

In Hafiz Saeed's case, I think India accused JuD and Hafiz Saeed in panic and for face saving as thier intelligence agencies had these names ready to be accused for any terrorist activity inside India. Once they accused them, they stareted putting pressure on Pakistan. Pakistan in return arrested him and when found that he may not be involved in this crime, for the government of Pakistan's face saving and putting the blame for his release on the court, they presented him in the Lahore High Court with all the flimsy evidence. And the court did what it was supposed to do.

Both Pakistani and Indian governments are in utter confusion about what to do and what not to do.

hi every body,dear indians when you all say that Pakistan is sporting terrorism ,you forget that india has established 34 consilates in Afghanistan near the boarder of pakistan,what these consalates are doing there,these are being used against pakistan,it is true that there are some anti india elments in pakistan but there is a same satuation in india,if u balame that we have Hafiz saeed then we can ask that there is Modi and Ball Thakrey.I can tell you that PAK has eveidance that inda is sending Ammunition to BALOCHISTAN and in SAWAT,there are many so-called TALIBAN were arrested in Pakistan but latter Offficials came to know that they were even not muslims.so who ar ethey? dera they ar ecomming from india.as i early said that there are some emements in pakistan which ar eagainst india but they have their on reasons,If you know the historywhat indian hav edone with PAKISTAN in BANGLADESH?Tell me why india interfare in PAKISTAN internal matters.INDIA is sending Ammunition to balochistan and even i can give you the name os those towns and cities whisc are located near PAKISTAN boarder from where india is sending Ammunition.
BELEIVE me that we as Pakistani nation not against INDIA,we know that we can not change our neighbours,and same is the case with india,but we should see the whole picture not the one side of picture.if any one want to share his views with em he can mail me at: columnist75@yahoo.com

Eexpecting any co-operation from Pakistan makes no sense (rather stupid). I guess, best thing for India to do is, to become much more strong internally and on all fronts, be it economy,defence, infrastructure, law and order etc at the same time not compremising on environment etc.
Show no mercy to terrorist found on our soil. There is no point in wasting money, time on trials of these cases (Do we really require Kasab's trial). But to happen this, I strongly feel we(citizens) need to unite and should not rest till important issues concering Indias future, secutrity are handled properly. Take example of 26/11, what happened? Where did the so active/vocal media, people of India, during that time go? I am just hoping that Pakistan will get the test of its own medicine- Just like what happens in story of "Bhasmasur"

dear all, this is reply to mr malik irfan(pak)comments,
1. Ball thakrey/ and modi will go if they are doing wrong , there is democracy peaple will vote them out see like congress came to power now, but tell me where in holy Quran written pakistan given authority to save muslim of india and world. do u have courage to say a word against china ruler for the bad treatment of your muslim BROTHERS.
2. khalistan (india ) and balochistan ( pak) like will be there till we keep our own house in order.
3.regarding bangladesh origin, pls read more than you will never blame anyone but your own rulers.

lets come to point , by blaming are we achieving anything, weapon supplier are enjoying watching both of us killing each other and spreading hatred,mistrust, poverty, backwardness etc, this simple thing to understand how many more years pakistan peaple require to understand, history can not be changed but future can be so decide.
lastly regarding Kashmir saga, the kashmiri wants some form of independence but never want to be part of pakistan,your rulers too knows very well, so stop and built your strong pakistan.if anytime india does any major wrong you have also nuclear arms to reply, living on begging and crying with all excuse stop. we wish you encouage positive thinking to build strong pakistan.

Agree, Manmohan Singh is squeamish. What the others in the caucus are supposed to do? India needs a Sardar Patel to lead in such desperate situation .
The dead issue of Kashmir should be shelved once and for all. US or the other western nations are keeping Kashmir alive only to cheque India's progress. The terrorists and activists should be dealt with firm hand and not like the only surviving 26/11 person used like an object of entertainment.

In my opinion, this kind of stand off will continue forever(as no solution seems to be in vicinity), if at all we want to have a long lasting peace, the two things that needs changing is the mindset and trust of not only the govts of India and Pakistan but mindset and trust between people also. In fact the first step is to have people of both countries overcome(not forget),overcome the past, realise the current and work for good future not only for themselves but for our next generations. Once people have faith and trust in each other the govts will start having the same (since govts are chosen by people. Choose govts which have peace with India or Pakistan in their agenda).We have to keep in my mind that what ever we do today is for our coming generations. It is up to us to decide what we want to give our next generation peace or war.

As upto solution of Kashmir, isn't talks or diplomacy enough for a solution(agreed this might take a long time may be years), but then loss of blood will be spared, lot of mothers, sisters, brothers will be saved/prevented from loosing their loved once.

I think solution is in talks that should continue, solution is in maintaining peace which should last, solution is in respecting once borders. Lets not forget before 1947 we all were one, one nation, living together, helping each other. Have we changed so much in last 60 odd years that we can't even stand a peaceful co-existence.

I am not saying that India should not stop talking. India has all the right to show its anger and disappointment. One thing that is needed here from the Pakistani counter part is some gesture and some commitment shown for peace and that would again start the dialogue(Is this that much difficult?). After all lets not forget that there were lives that were lost during mumbai attact and life once gone cannot be brought back, and all this action is to save anything of such sought happening again.

I amazed by Indian comments, especially if there is any article for or against pakistan on times f india, I see comments by indians against Pakistan. I just see that India and Pakistan will never become close. India is in a delusion that its all mighty and powerful, it has failed to release that it is used as a pawn by US against China, the next superpower of the world. Pakistan is not the same Pakistan that it was in 1971, its geographically different, India knows it cannot fight Pakistan and cannot win the war, so it tries all the stupid diplomat moves to isolate pakistan and indians get all frustrated. Mumbai attacks are a classical example, when india demanded a lot but got nothing because demanded rather than asking pakistan to mutually cooperate, but I can understand that it may case that congress didn't wanted to seen weak and the election was coming. Indians should also understand that Americans only use India for cheap labor, Pakistan is strategically important for US, so they will never openly support India. Pakistan is also strategically important for China. So indians, I can understand you all make all these frustrated comments against Pakistan, these comments do no good, as you turn away the majority of liberal pakistanis who want a peaceful co-existence with India. Pakistani people sympthazie with Indians after Mumbai attacks, but seeing the agressive attitude of Indians was very disappointing. You can say that paksi put up with Americans but when it comes India, pakis know that we have enough power to defend pakistan and defeat India. So war is not the answer and I request that you change your attitude towards Pakistan, you don't gain anything out of it and you only lose with this attitude.

So what?if u indians dont want peace with pakistan,we dont care.india is not a democracy as u claim,india is a terrorist state.can u see what india is doing in kashmir since last 60 years.what happen in kashmir last week.two innocent womens get
raped and murderd by coward indian army.you have forgotten what india did,when he broke pakistan in 1971.now if india dont come to senses and solve the kashmir issue according to united nations ,india will be gone back to hanuman days.pak is ready to unleash 75nukes at any moment.
so dont tell us what you going to do,we know what we are going to do,because indians only understand
the language power.
JAI PAKISTAN

Let India look at this way ....
in order to control activity of or Pakistan, attend to and understand USA. The politicians there are oversmart and insincere to their people, their own families. Do not expect them to see reason for India. The Europeans have understood this and the US politician. Hence, you see them, Europeans, charting their own courses. And ! you can see, the US polity pandering to the Europeans !!
India too, should not involve US for its own good. The US has no time for India ... they cannot have ... they are hard working for themselves... they intend not to be distracted to and about Indians !! The Mortagage scandal ... the Banks' scandal ... the auto companys' scandal ... the Madoff scandal... the Iraq scandal and now the developing Afghanistan scandal... Look closely, Obama is doing overtime for himself ... the second term !!!
India should not look to control Pakistan but must streamline its working and control within ... first and immediately develop roads and airstrips along borders with Pakistan, China, Nepal, Bangladesh and Burma with the sole intention to be able to mobilise and deploy its forces.
Develop capability to bring Dawood and all members of his gang wherever they are to India on its own, try him and them in a special court and executed.
Track, deport or jail all Pakistani nationals those have come to India in the last ten years and not returned. The ones who have helped them must be charged too without recourse to justice. All Bangladeshis must be deported never mind the Bangladesh government or its Bangladesh Rifles. The captured terrorist and the dead ones must be advertised and their families contacted directly to claim them.

Talk with PAK for what? PAK is "Muh Mein Ram Ram, Bagal Mein Shura". After years of trying to 'pursuade" PAK by peaceful mean have been completely futile, as fully demonstrated by Mumbai attack. While India is sending rockets to moon, PAK is embraced in 'madrasas' and jihad. As long as it is their mentality, all the peace conference will not make any difference, and nothing will change.

Forget everything and stop analysing.Everything worst happened to India is only becauise of puppet type politicians like MMS.It is really shameful for such countruy to have such people advocating India.Why we cannot become tough and aggresive,why we are licking americans or russinas.The jokers in Congress are the most responsible for such status of India.I am watching from USA and find eher nobody cares about India and when I am in India I find all media and politicians always talk as if our coutry is just few feet away from becoming SUPERPOWER.I really hate media after Pliticians specially Congress who has just bunch of jokers and lickers.Forget about votoing how many votes congress got and that is all senseless democracy--it is just number game.Congress ruled us before 47 along with britishers and now after 47 ruled us and fooled us for more than 50 yrs.In USA not a single newpapers carry anything about India for them it is just another country like Bangla desh

dear on line editor,A.G Laitif Khos of pakistan,s view is based on highly partial attitude and it has nothing to do with terrorist acts supported by Haifiz Saeed JDU.Whta is evidence and what is ones views?enidence is a piece of matters observed or gathereed based on investigation of an affair detailing the crcumstances and involvement of a person. But ay person who has a CLOSED mind shall not have themind to have any thinking on te matter as he/she has a predetermined view based on his own personnal mental outlook.Such men can never be just or fair but highly partial only.How can such views be accepted?Facts are not accepted by such mind and this is the crux of theproblem.Paksitan will nevedr accept any evidence whether tangible or intangible due to strong predetermined views stuck in theirmental layer of thoughts.The whole world who did intcept mobile instruction between leaders positioned in Paksiatna dn operators who were in Bombnay alone will suffice tocon clude the part of Hafiz Saeed in this dastradlt attack. Indian government fail to READ Pakistan mind hence they always feel that Paksitan will be coninced some time or other Let it be knwn that Pakistan will never come round on this hence leaving it at it dont waste valuable time dated 07th June 2009 Time 0357Hrs Ist AM

Pakistan has been a constant source of trouble for India since its inception. The military bureaucrat combine that has been ruling that country has so poisoned the hearts of Paksiani population both against India and Hindus that
an average Pakistani can only look at India as an enemy country.
Pakistani diplomats have left no stone unturned in defaming India all over the world, particularly among Muslim countries , as an anti-Muslim country where Muslims are maltreated. This opinion is reflected in 99% blogs by Pakstanis on the net.
No further talks with this country as they will lead nowhere. Neither the Pakistani government nor the Pakistani army will ever agree to conversion of the LOC in Kashmir into an international border.
Pakistan is also not likely to honour the treaties or agreements it signs.
Let us maintain the present state of No War No Peace. At the same time Kashmiris should be encouraged to join the national mainstream.

Pakistan has been a constant source of trouble for India since its inception. The military bureaucrat combine that has been ruling that country has so poisoned the hearts of Paksiani population both against India and Hindus that
an average Pakistani can only look at India as an enemy country.
Pakistani diplomats have left no stone unturned in defaming India all over the world, particularly among Muslim countries , as an anti-Muslim country where Muslims are maltreated. This opinion is reflected in 99% blogs by Pakstanis on the net.
No further talks with this country as they will lead nowhere. Neither the Pakistani government nor the Pakistani army will ever agree to conversion of the LOC in Kashmir into an international border.
Pakistan is also not likely to honour the treaties or agreements it signs.
Let us maintain the present state of No War No Peace. At the same time Kashmiris should be encouraged to join the national mainstream.

The kashmiri people donot want to be part of pakistan, we see hope of growth and future being secured with India. Who is pakistan to claim our region, give us back what you have taken by force?. And to all the pakistanis claiming that they do not hate Indians, I just have to say that your actions speak LOUDER than words. You pakis are the people who send terrorists to our soil and kill our people.

There is a UN resolution to have a pebliscit in Kashmier and its been over 60yrs over 80k lives yet not resolved. Its a shame. The only way to avoid any future conflict and live like good friendly neighbours India should come out maturely and gracefully and talk to pakistanis and kashmiris instead running away and finding excuses. I am sure you all agree with me that justice preceeds peace. I hope and pray that it (the most dangerous region) becomes the most peacefull and prosperous. A just solution is the only gauantee that our children will live healthy and peacefully else we should recall the aftermath of whatever happend in Nagasaki and Hiroshima and multiply that by a 100 times. We are all one and lets not other powers use us against each other. Lets come together and talk justice, peace automatically would follow.

Ever since its independence Pakistan has been a rouge state always wanting and waging wars with India. Personally i believe that it was a mistake to have split up the country into two. For this grave mistake generations have been suffering especially in our border states. Pakistan is managing to continue to fund its war chest and its criminal activity even at the cost of not feeding and schooling its own people. Mind you this is not a shot i am taking at a typical Pakistani citizen, it is the political establishment and the ISI that is to blame.
In the last 15+ years India has seen tremendous growth. The only way i believe we can fight this in the long run is not with conventional weapons. We have to relentlessly pursue economic growth and empower every Indian citizen economically, while vigorously protecting our borders from all sides to ensure that Indian citizens in India are very well protected and 26/11 will never again happen on Indian soil.
Over time let us hope that our economic strength will persuade our neighbors to follow suit in building their own nations instead of bombing us.

India should learn from China. In 60's when China was not powerful, it never bowed to USA. It held its strong attitude and did not surender to USA. India should adopt a strong stand against USA. We should take action against any nation that supplies arms to Pakistan just as China takes (political, economic and militariy actions) against any nations that supplies arms to Taiwan.

Gandhi and Gandhian policy are worst than that of Hitler. He has sacrificed future of Hindus not for one generation, but for many many generations to come.

Until we come out of that thinking, we will never be safe. There is no properity without safety. You can make lot of money, but if you have no strength to protect it, somebody is going to take it away.

This is a doggy-it-dog world there and only way to get respect is be strong. How insulting and stupid it is that our sports tournament IPL had to be played in South Africa.

I know in North Easter India, working people have to pay about 10% of their salary to terrorist to be safe.

I live in USA. For those of you who do not know, if I call police, police will be at my door in about 2 minutes in emergency situation. Even then people keep gun in house for safety. When I ask, they say, I do not even give two minutes to anybody who invades my house. Unelss,we as people have such attitude, we will never be safe.

This is one reason, USA has not had attack after 9/11.

India should make it's stand very clear. Talks only after Pakistan demonstrates actions of dismantling terrorists camps and punishes those guilty of plotting 26 / 11. We should not allow ourselves to be pushed around by any country including USA.

effect can not be solve the problem untill we solve the cause and bring the cause in its casual form.we donot need to blame this and that..........pakistan administartion donot know what to do with pakistan...but they cant not face it and untill we donot face the fact ,we make mess ourself and to our neighbours.

Pakis are a piece of Sh*t on this divine place called earth....maybe a bit harsh on all as I have a few good friends as well here in UK who are from pakistan but mostlof them are uneducated and too religious to have any meaningful talks with....so manmohan singhji....get permission from mrs gandhi and show some firecrackers

Mr. Godse has caught the right chord that resonates the real notes of discord between Pakistan and India. The whole spectrum of relationship is confined to the highs of cultural interaction through various media and the diplomatic lows of abusive communication. Beyond these limits there is no further scope of enmity between these two similar countries. Reasons are given by Mr. Godse above. Better we try a broader confederate mechanism between them with a sufficient scope of self-rule for Kashmiris.

India should talk to Pakistan on Kashmir with the presence of the US in the background. The US role can be of a passive mediator. Only the Americans can force Pakistan to honor the commitments it makes in bi-lateral peace agreements.

India's position on resolving Kashmir is known; make the LoC a permanent border, keep that border porous for trade and give autonomy to Kashmiris in India. No one can dispute India's stand, but the jihadis, which India has no control over.

Lahori Tiger,

See this is Pakistan's literacy status.In a newspaper blog you are writing about Hindu Gods in a disrespectful way.You speak about atrocities of Indian army, my friend it seems you surf net after long periods otherwise you would have seen the barbaric video where a couple was brutally murdered in the SWAT region for making love.

Secondly you ask us to be aware of the fact that you have got nuclear missiles, common you must be kidding , you make me laugh.Only yesterday your PM Gilani was pestering the US for a similar N-Deal which was given to INDIA.
Thirdly Pakistanis teach us ISLAM and call us Kafirs,the way we see it is that you all are inconsiderate morons.
Somewhere in your blog you also seemed to be warning us.Do it at your own peril.Indian army has more personnel then all Pakistanis put together.
The next day when you feel angry just cross-over to India(ask those hermaphrodites to help you --- your Terrorist bros)and we will settle it via a street fight if our peace talk fails.
JAI INDIA

Great, good article but i would like request you. You know what you have done. sometimes it is called as internet war of words which can change the image of a nation.

Please be careful about your articles.

regards

To Pakistan,India is their only enemy.Other groups and people like LeT are their bothers and so harmless.Pakistan will change whatever USA or other countries may say.It brings to minds the events of 1965.After Indo-Pak war of 1965, there was a UN general assembly which was attended by Swarn Singh a minsiter in the Indian Govt. of Indira Gandhi.In that meeting Z.A.Bhutto had called Indians as dogs and vowed to fight India if necessary for 1000 years and eat grass.Pakistan's policy remains the same and will not change.India has to be vigilant against such neighbours

I am reproducing the message of father of Indian armyman who lost his son in a brutal way in Kargil.Do you want India to talk to Pakiz
Lt. Saurabh Kalia of 4 JAT Regiment of the Indian Army laid down his life at the young age of 22 for the nation while guarding the frontiers at Kargil.
His parents, indeed the Indian Army and nation itself,
lost a dedicated, honest and brave son.
He was the first officer to detect and inform about
Pakistani intrusion. Pakistancaptured him and his patrol party of 5 bravemen alive on May 15, 1999 from the Indian side of LOC.
They were kept in captivity for three weeks and
subjected to unprecedentedbrutal torture, evident from their bodies handed over by Pakistan Army on June 9, 1999.
The Pakistanis indulged in dastardly acts of inflicting burns on these Indian officers with cigarettes, piercing their ears with hot rods, removing their eyes before puncturing them and breaking most of the bones and teeth.
They even chopped off various limbs and private organs of the Indiansoldiers besides inflicting unimaginable physical and mental torture.

After 22 days of torture, the brave soldiers were ultimately shot dead. A detailed post-mortem report is with the Indian Army. Pakistandared to humiliate Indiathis way flouting all international norms.
They proved the extent to which they can degrade humanity. However, the Indian soldiers did not break while undergoing all this unimaginable barbarism, which speaks volumes of their patriotism, grit, determination, tenacity and valour - something all of Indiashould be proud of.
Sacrificing oneself for the nation is an honour every soldier would be proud of, but no parent, army or nation can accept what happened to these brave sons of India. I am afraid every parent may think twice to send their child in the armed forces if we all fall short of our duty in safeguarding the PRISONERS OF WAR AND LET THEM MEET THE FATE OF LT.SAURABH KALIA.

It is continuation of my previous message.

It may also send a demoralising signal to the army personnel fighting for the Nation that our POWs in Pak cannot be taken care of. It is a matter of shame and disgust that most of Indian Human Rights Organisations by and large, showed apathy in this matter.

Through this humble submission, may I appeal to allthe civilized people irrespective of colour, caste, region, religion and political lineage to stir their conscience and rise to take this as a NATIONAL ISSUE !!!
International Human Rights Organizations must be approached to expose and pressure Pakistanto identify, book and punish all those who perpetrated this heinous crime to our men in uniform.
If Pakistanis allowed to go unpunished in this case, we can only imagine the consequences.
Below is the list of 5 other soldiers who preferred todie for the country rather than open their mouths in front of enemy -

1. Sep. Arjun Ram s/o Sh. Chokka Ram; Village & PO
Gudi. Teh. & Dist.
Nagaur, (Rajasthan)

2. Sep. Bhanwar Lal Bagaria h/o Smt. Santosh Devi;
Village Sivelara;Teh.& Dist.Sikar (Rajasthan)

3. Sep. Bhikaram h/o Smt. Bhawri Devi; Village
Patasar; Teh. Pachpatva;Distt.Barmer (Rajasthan)

4. Sep. Moola Ram h/o Smt. Rameshwari Devi; Village
Katori; Teh. Jayal; Dist. Nagaur(Rajasthan)

5. Sep. Naresh Singh h/o Smt. Kalpana Devi; Village
Chhoti Tallam; Teh.Iglab; Dist.Aligarh (UP)

Yours truly,
Dr. N.K. Kalia (Lt. Saurabh Kalia's father).
Saurabh Nagar,
Palampur-176061
Himachal Pradesh
Tel: +91 (01894) 32065

We are unfortunate to have the most fanatical Muslim nation in the world as our neighbour. A band of hoodlums so to speak who do not know how to make peace or what progress of a nation consists of.Unfortunately the hoodlums are supported by several others. Only God above can help us. as a nation, India has not hurt or invaded any other nation. Justice will be done by nature and a true and Just God. Satyamev Jayate. Time will tell. Just wait and see what the future holds for evil Machiavellian nations.

As a potential thinker of this current affair,i think it is in India's interest, for its own security, it should keep its hands out of the mud. Before we even try to look at what the Pak government is doing, we should realise that our defence systems are quite crippled and we cannot afford to have any form of 26/11 attack again.

Fter the mumbai attacks, the people of india, "Declared war against Pak" but did anythink happen?.

Terrorist attacks are quite reqular in india and Pak. Zardari said few months ago that 'india is not a threat but indian terrorists are' AND in India is pretty much Pak terrorists.
All Pak is doing is for its own defence. It is not for an attack against india, or thats what i think.

All we have to do is take care of our own house and try not to interfere in neighbour's matters. if they conduct an offensive, ITS A BIGGEST SHAME ON THEIR FACE.

India and Pakistan must talk to each other for peace. After so many years of acrimony, we need to give peace a chance. Both countries have a lot in common and together they can achieve more. Only the army in pakistan keeps 'india' issue alive to remain strong. It takes more than 7 % of GDP. When there is friendship the army can be reduced to reasonable minimum strength.

The Insight of Godse and Bagchi: Realistic, rational and human!

Both of them has highlighted rationlly India´s fight against the shrewd, fundamentalist forces in Pakistan. While Indrani correctly highlights the International, especially, the U.S. interests, which r often very far from the truth and reality of the people of the region and serve directly or indirectly the interests of the U.S. (China, Russia, Germany etc.), i.e. selling of huge arms, commercial interests, religion & idelogies.

And even if Pakistan according to Godse does not cease to exist, the tensions and terrorist attacks he has pointed are remain going to take place. In the Indian subcontinent, it can be lessened as Godse suggests: “India should focus on its economical growth, infrastructural development, national security and uniting divided Indians.” He stresses between the lines that the Indian subcontinent is homeland of all the colors and religions. The endangering developments and forces must be fought tough, rational, full of justice from the Government and from the people. And no country of the world should expect the land of wisdom without flaws bcz all of them have many and evil forces do come and go.

Anant Kumar
Writer & Jounalist
Member of German Writers Association
www.anant-kumar.de

Hi,
Interesting article and discussion. But there seems to be some confusion between "should we talk?" and "should we compromise?". At the appropriate time, India can resume talks with Pakistan without compromising on the issue of Pakistan dismantling terror network aimed at India. Mistake if India says "who needs US" etc. This is a complex world and even the USfinds it needs other nations' help - so does an emerging country like India. US, Europe, Australia, Japan etc. want India to be strong in a multi-polar world. So why should India push everybody away.
Obama is a popular leader who believes in talking to enemies - so India insisting not talks with Pak is mis-aligned. So talk but stay strong and focused - Obama may want to talk about Kashmir but the solution in his mind is similar to India's. So get India's stand agreed to by US etc. and talk to Pak - this will also help the reasonable people in Pakistan stand up for peace.

Solving the kashmir issue wont solve the problems of terrorists.They are out of bound of the pakistani government.They have no control over them.They have become our global enemy.The terrorists dosent demand kashmir,they have a twisted ideology.
It makes me feel sad and angry that a country like US is taking advantage of our kashmir problem . If india and pakistan can somehow unite to each other,i can garuntee that future prospects will be outstanding. It will be the strongest nation in whole of asia behind russia surpassing china. We would also have a good cricket team. i dont have a problem with a muslim chap sitting beside me.Considering the 26/11 case,it has completely violated the last dry piece of unification.
I really want india and pakistan to go for a talk but not from US point of view.US can't do anything about it.
We can still progress,kashmir problem is not a deadlock or something .Just takein the whole country man.

Pakistan was created for the use of imperial powers. Now it is being touted as China's Israel.

As a country it will always be dependent on foreign powers. It is a deeply unstable place with an economy dependent on foreign handouts.

now that india is back tracking what they said pre elections, i have decided that no political party wud follow what indian people want.they r all selfish.its sad that india doesnt do any kinda covert ops like the israelis or the americans.looks like v r dogs with our tails firmly between our legs.void out your vote the next election.

What a tragedy is this? My heartfelt condolences to those innocents killed. At the outset this is the devil of own creation. Pakistan is paying for what it has done with evil idea's of de-stablizing India. Until they come out of harbouring terrorists they will continue to suffer.

Don't forget that there are over 130 million Muslims in India. They are the pedigree of the same people who created Pakistan and India and Bangladesh. The flare that has sparked in Pakistan will easily turn into a rapid fire and will cover the entire sub-continent. Not talking to Pakistan and being cocky in your own world will consequently lead India to its own disaster. If USA has come to its sense that fighting and bombing nation will lead you no where near to a peaceful existence of its own, India should take the heed from it and lose that cocky rhetoric against Pakistan. Unstable Pakistan today is unstable India tomorrow.

If your powerful then only world will hear your words. Indian is trying to talk with Pakistan from long time it
makes no difference. India did mistake by allowing Pakistan to become this much headache. When India
fought war with Pakistan they captured half the way, at that time they could have settled this Kashmir
issue by taking POK. If India would have doen this now at least we will not having some thing Kashmir
headache. India need to think and act like matured, but not like child play. Who ever ruled India they did not
find solution for any problem, every time new problem will come in front of India development.
Do what you did in Punjab, just kill all basted if you keep in jail its waste of money. Pakistan is country
which will under power not words… If Pakistan want war give final war, don’t spare.

hi what u said was quite relevant but we should say that for all these years we have been talking to pakistan about this and that but we have not got anywhere so far. reason being they have no definite policy towards us..
whenever someone wants to raise an isue to divert the attention from their corrupt ways they raise a finger towards india...
i don't think having a war with pak will solve anything...
i think we should start ignoring them as if they don't matter...
we have to stop trying to run sadbhawna trains when we all know that its one way affair and what we get from other side is hatred and terrorism.
seal our borders and tell all and sundry that we will not discuss kashmir with nobody, not even america... period...

Look all dear friends. After reading all the comments as a indian a Sincerer request to pakistan, instead of funding for terrorism, kindly use that money to develop the nation, Terrors will only destroy the country, education will save the country. If (pakis) spend on terror that means they wanted to hemself, no india or country required to destory them.. Sorry to be more harsh.. Jai Hind...

education will save the country. If (pakis) spend on terror that means they wanted to hemself, no india or country required to destory them.. Sorry to be more harsh.. Jai Hind...

We need to snap all ties with Pakistan.Be it in sports,trade or politics.No dialogues should be held and it shpuld be declared as a terrorist state.

But don't you think, that the inside story is more complex then flat talk. Its just a biased talk of a nationalist journalist. Let me tell what I feel is a true side to all this. Pakistanis agensies play dirty games against India and Indian agensies do the same vis viersa. Nothing will ever change untill both sides want to do it in diplomatic and political sense. Both have a false face to show to masses. Why dont you tell what those multiple consulates on Pakistani border with Afghanistan are doing. What are we doing in Balouchistan and NWFP. How big a hand we have in there in contrast to what they have here in Kashmir and else where. Why don't we settle all the disputes for good and have harmony with people who are not so different then us than those who dictate us both directly or indirectly. I know Pakistanies have changed their stance on Kashmir a lot in last 10 years. Have we political will to change us a bit, or that we will at last lead to the time of mass distruction for masses on both sides and stay poor in this China/US games. Why cant China India and others around be binded as Europe. We need a leaders of visions and Journalist of truth

Ladies and Gents,

India is too diverse a country to tackle any serious issue. It is something like having too many crabs in a well. If one tries to escape, rest of them pull the damn thing back in to the well. So, Indians should get used to the well and not complain! What if some 100,000 die every year due to terrorism, naxalism, maoism, accidents, "poll violence", contaminated food, pure alcohol etc...! These deaths do not affect India or its self esteem or its national pride or its very reason for being a nation.

I propose that Inida be broken in to some 20 independant nations so that the residents can govern themselves with some pride - like the Europeans.

There is more to my comment earlier. Look friends! 95% of Pakistanis are much more modrate than a common Indian. They want friendship with India and want all problems to be setteled. Just recall how then Indian teams are treated when wellcomed there when both nations are in friendly atmosphare. Now if u talk about terrorism, so be realistic in your understanding that the currunt situation and thousends of fanatics are created by USA for Soviet Jihad and that USA did put factories in place to everlasting production of this product before they went their way. But you know a common Pakistani doesn't endorse them.
Then there is Kashmiri terrorists which is Pakistan army product. That product is nearly vanishing as the policies for kashmir are not the same as before. They want to settle it more to a understanding of Indian people and with something to give to Pakistani masses as well. We got to bury the past to start something constructive. Both ISI and RAW have done their dirty jobs in past and used people in opposing countries, just like Pakistan did with Daoud Ibrahim and now ISI needs to protect him as all secret agensies in world do that to have their credibility, and I am sure RAW does the same. Now question is, if there is a way to settle the things and forget about scoring point on each others past deeds, which I am sure are same for both. It is easy to make sentimental laymans comments as most of us do here because we never look the picture from others eyes and only understand what media tells us. Both India and Pakistan are made of a mix of different people, so much diversified that non of them is gone stay as a unity in 100 years time unless media start playing positive roll. Todays media make money of feeding us with haterd and no solutions and there is no such media who shows us true stories from both sides of conflicts in the world.

Hari n other block minded indians if you want to use power come on? When everybody wants to settle matter through talks, it is the only option. What India gained from the last 3 wars with Pakistan. They lost a part of Kashmir, dead bodies from Kargil, Lost dream of taking wine at Lahore Gymkhana. Yes they managed to separate Pakistan in 1971 but what after that disputes with Bangladesh, an independent Muslim State. So if Pakistanis are changing mind and want peace and felt sorry for what happened in Vambai, most of indians want take strong action against Pakistan, whereas there are some extreme elements which want to liberate Kashmir through Jihahd. Independence of Palastine and Kashmir from occupied forces can defuse the situation in reducung the support to extremists. If it is not happened, things will go on as it is going since last 60 years. Some brave terrorists will again attack some indian city and kill hundred of muslims. It is high time that India should offer Mody and Bal Thakrey to Pakistan in exchange of Hafiz Saeed and Ibrahim Dawood, an indian, who took the revenge of Babri Mosque Distruction and killng of innocent indian muslims. It is high time India should offer for a plebesite in both parts of Kashmir which Kashmiri will vot for Pakistan with poor Law & Order and Economic Situation. Indian will gain some of its lost part, but may never get Bangladesh and Pakistan.
Good Luck

Pakistan must enhance its nuclear weapons capability and also join hands with Iran to equip them with nuclear weapons. If they do not then the collusion between the zionists and India plans to destroy Iran and disarm and dismember Pakistan. Pakistan's survival lies in its increased nuclear capability. Trusting India at the reckoning of USA would be a blunder.

Yes. it is well known fact that india is very scared and does not have any proper machnism against terrism threats so we are contiunu facing threat from pakistan. if we raelly want to raech at final discussinon then we have take drastic steps against them.I can not understand that why we are unable to stop them even if we have strong malatry and power ful weapon which are enough to use.I want to tell to india goverment untill we donot show our strenth they will remain strong and ready to creat fearful environment in india. we need to work over.......tit for tat.

no more talks with pak. just attack them and finish them! wipe them off, from the world map! there should not survive a single soul even to mourn the death of others! Vande mataram!

Well, your media is projecting as India will very soon be the superpower after US. It is just like rubbish Indian movies which are just glamor and have no clue to the actual reality and all Indians are thinking the same way.

Remember if you would have been able to finish Pakistan you would have done long ago. But you know the realities- if you try to eliminate Pakistan, most of you will also be eliminated. Beware our missile & nuclear technology is much superior to yours.

And become realistic- you can never be a superpower, whatsoever, because the societies which have classes and 70% poorest on the globe, like Indians, can only dream or project on media. You can not even tackle Pakistan, in spite of its corrupt & incapable political leadership, while China is far far away from your reach- they are the dragons. They are slowly swallowing Americans and rest of the world, and India is no match at all. Ask your elders about 60s war with China and remember that China is now many many times more powerful in all respects.

India has almost same social and even economical problems what Pakistan has, only the scale may differ. The world only considers you a big market and they flatter that India is the largest democracy, they never say anything about the quality of that democracy. India has been doing what worst it can do for Pakistan but it could not and it will never be able to finish it. Rather India should care about its own insurgencies and extremism problems.

Worst come worst Pakistanis know what to do with India if you keep us putting against the wall along with Americans, Europeans and your best friends Israelis.

Forget about 'shining' India, which is another propaganda because such a poor and biased nation can never shine or rise. If you continue with others you will be destroyed among yourselves.

Therefore please be sensible and realistic Americans, Europeans and Israelis are just exploiting you. and wwould never like India t - o actually 'will go

Everytime India starts talk with Pak, the ISI executes a new clandestine plot to stage some sort of terrorist attack against India.If India wants peace with Pakistan, it has to pay in cash for it like what the USA is doing.

Dear Tahir, Please compare current state of pakistan with that of India. Both countries got freedom at samt time and why Pakistan so much behind?

It is bcos of islam and too religious nature pf pakistanis. Think about it..

@Shahid:

Some of what you said makes sense. That the media is doing its bit in feeding hatred on both sides of the borders. Look at the people posting comments here about attacking one another with nuclear bombs. Glad that their power is limited to posting only comments.
Coming to Kashmir issue, it was always a part of India if you see history. Thousands of temples have been destroyed and Hindus were either kicked out or persecuted or CONVERTED. If being in the place for a couple of centuries is a criteria to claim the territory, then the land belongs to the Kashmiri pandits who lived there for thousands of years before being kicked out or killed.
I do not suggest bombing Pakistan just because we have weapons. See the effects on economy by diverting huge amounts on arms and ammunition. Who is earning money by selling costly weapons to both countries? Most of the media never highlights that. They thrive on highlighting hatred.
People who are educated and capable of posting here should also make an attempt to make good use of internet and know the facts rather than just responding to some stories published here.
And I do not understand why Pakistanis think that India had a hand in creating Bangladesh? Do they know the number of people killed by their own Pakistani army? Do they know the number of refugees who fled to India? Do they think India should just keep watching if millions are flooding into its borders? If India was the aggressor, then it wouldn't have let Bangladesh to exist as an independent nation.

Talking to Pakistan and signing agreements with them is Colossal waste. We have many agreements signed, including Simla. The main reason, we have the Pakistan problem today is becuase, we didn't finish the job when we had the opportunity, we had three of them including, the last one during the Bangladesh war. Should have taken over the entire Pakistan and should have said, this our territory from the beginning of time, we tried separation and it didn't work and now it is time to put law an order back in place. If that was done then, history would have been different and we wouldn't have to content with terrorism in India and elsewher.

I predict, Pakistan will fall apart, Pakistan has problem that no amount of money can fix, another colossal waste time and energy.

Hi Tahir,

I am surprised that you can read and write! How did you accomplish that? You writing needs improvement. You need to pull your head out from where the sun don't shine.

Your understanding of India is of India in 1947, not today's India.

MR. Raja and Irfan, hey guys can't you see what is happening in Pakistan right now...... I really Done care about excuse, if you want to prove someone wrong then prove it to your self. some simple facts how the hale all those extreme religion group gets all those money? you guys do not have enough to run your own contry. you guys are still there just because of US Help.... look at the history how much India have progressed after Britisher's moved out. and look at you guys ...... this can harm only you ..... I dont want to get in to all the history and blame game ..... but untill you as a people inside of Pakistan will not raise then day is not far when Taliban or any other Group will have control over the whole pakistan..... c'mon stop acting stupid .... do something for your country .... try to make progress in IT and business instead of making tremendous progress in terrorism..... Stop making guns in North region of pakistan and start making computers and cars..... start making you kids friends families and neighbors well educated and mature person who can stand in front of the world for good reason.....
Use US money to fight Terrorist + building infrastructure + business opportunities. instead of helping wrong people.....

now do not replay me with excuses just ask your self what you should do as a people as a father as a family member... and it does not ends there ..... if you are not one of them then try to change other who are like them...... it is your responsibility as citizen of Pakistan to create a batter and safe country........
Jay HIND.....

Rajesh , i agree with you man , but why we should harm our self even a little .... those people are brain dead ...... they might have not see the GADAR movie..... well no matter what they have or not ..... if they even think about attacting us ..... we can wipe them in a day .... but on the other hand one of our state will have to pay ...... but dont worry about them ... wait and watch their own people will do that ...... if they will not change.......

all people go back to history and check india never asked for Lahore but you people always ask something from india and even tried to get it .... but felt really bad after loosing against indian in all of our war..... just stay there stop worrying about Muslim in india They are Indian and they are happy,,, as far as you guys don't misguide them we are one as Indian.....

man Rajesh they will never understand this ... is they would they could be as reach as india in different sector rather still bagging to US for Money..... LOL

Pakistan is a failed state which lacks all the decency and elegance of a modern state. It's sports world is cricket-centric and is run by a close relative (Miandad) of a notorious drug-peddler turned betting-don (some Ibrahim). Its betting syndicate brutally attacks the foreign sports-person their quality endangers the betting empire.(that's why Sri Lankan cricketers were attacked at Lahore).
The failed state called Pakistan gets external aid from United States to crack down extremism and insurgency. This fund is rather diversified to train the minds and physiques of innocent teenagers in "National Institutes of Extremism". Poor America lacks the mind power to understand that the graduates in extremism try their special skill ( unlicensed to kill) on USA as well.

Any reader going through these comments will know, how fanatic indians are. They talk about terrorism but dont even thing about all what RAW is doing in Pakistan. Can a single one tell me what is the political/trade wise purpose of those 17 consulates. Can anybody tell who is funding Balch Mari in Balouchistan, Can anybody tell what indian army is doing in Kashmir. Dont you agree that kashmiries themselves do want independence from india. Do u really think India can wipe out Pakistan from the map while they sit with 75 nukes in only one direction. Don't you think a very big part Hindues are fanatic as compared to the fanatics ratio on other side of the border. So my dear friends learn something from Gora's, settle the disputes and then Indian and Pakistani terror will stop it self. Friendship is the key. But I know you will ask how when Pakistan is sponsoring terror in india? They wont my friends when your RAW wont. but you will not agree because you are not informed are convinced that RAW do it to and a lot. What if you came to know that RAW is the major player in funding Pakistani Taliban and Baloach sepratists. What if ... just think the possibility lets only it be hypothetically true, then what. Non of the two sides are saints, we people have to stand up for friendship because thats the best for our people. Otherwise you will go on calling for Wiping out Pakistan and I will go on calling for the same and non will be able to do that other then that we lose both. Learn from Goras and use heads not emotinos.

hi folks,
Being neutral i can only say these things about this complicated issue
1.India is better country in every respect than pakistan from army strength,econmy,democracy,education,human rights etc but we should not stop here and be ready to compete with this world
2.Terrorism is not the bigeest issue devlopment is the biigest issue if we pursue the path of devlopment im sure we can handle terrorism in more effective way.
3.History is history we cant change it but we can learn from it.
4.I believe india should not resume dialogues with pakistan and certianly not if us wants us to talk with pakistan.
5.we should talk to pakistan at appropriate time,but i dont think the meeting b/w pm and zardari is big deal as we r not opening the usual dialoges tat used to happen before mumbai attacks.
6.As far as pakistan is concern i believe pakistani people r gr8 and good humans,but like all fingers r not same there r rough elements there which r even are not in control of the govenment there,India should support democracy in pakistan and should try to make pak govt more stable and stronger.
7.Kashmir is not an issue both india and pakistan should understand that present LOC is final.
8.Pakistani people and govt should undertsnd that india is not supporting terrorism of any kind in pak.
9.I have faith in chindmabarm as home minster.i beleive he will minimize corruption and make our forces and internal security more stronger.and we will see less terrorist attacks in coming years as long as we hav a good home minster and govt.
10.I wish pak govt good luck for their ongoing offensive against taliban,hope they eleminate taliban from pakistan.

Border problems with Pakistan on Kashmir issue & China on Norther end have been accepted by both India & these countries. Now since UPA Govt is strong & stable, it is better the initiative should be taken & rational solution reached on the policy of understanding & theory of Give & Take which are unnecessarily stressing the Indian citizens. As Dr. Manmohan Sigh PM is from the generation well understanding & appreciating of the background & history, it is worth while to create better, healthier & peaceful atmosphere for next generations who will not be able to decide anything & should not deffer the problems anymore as future is taking a different shape.India must develope its defenses & deployment & leave nothing for occupation or naxal activities.

TAHIR MIYA

It seems you have lost control of your head. Your comments on India are trash and should be dumped into your own house dustbin.

Yeah, our media is projecting India would be a global power soon. It will become one soon and leave your nuisance country Pakistan so far u will forget to catch up with us. Rubbish Indian movies, well, my stupid pal, coming from a rubbish mouth like yours, everything will be rubbish. Our movies are great and seen all over the world unlike yours that is not seen even in your own country.

Regarding >>> Beware our missile & nuclear technology is much superior to yours <<< ha,ha,ha… do u know how strong and powerful ours is. U will not be able to sleep if I tell u. So strong that even before firing,, your country and u will be exterminated. Your tech is all borrowed and stolen from other sources and countries like North Korea and China, while ours is pure indigenous and developed by our own brains. Your tech people have no brains, they only steal and copy.

@Great Tahir Miya

Regarding >>> 70% poorest on the globe, like Indians, can only dream or project on media <<< Fool, it is just 50% and even that will come down in another 20 years, all of this will take time. But yours will be become still poorer and will only produce terror graduates. Don’t worry, we will catch up with China and even beat them in coming years. They opened up their economy earlier and are a one party controlled country that is why they are ahead. Regarding > You can not even tackle Pakistan, in spite of its corrupt & incapable political leadership <<< we will not tackle , but even lick u all over the place if u people talk rubbish.

Regarding >>> India should care about its own insurgencies and extremism problems <<< we are tackling them and we will over come them. But u will not because u people have no brain and lack common sense whereas we have.

Regarding >>> Pakistanis know what to do with India if you keep us putting against the wall along with Americans, Europeans and your best friends Israelis <<< what u will do??? Launch nuclear attack on us or another terror attack…. U cannot and if u do, we will annihilate u. Ur country is now in a mess battling the terror groups u people created and it will remain like that for many years. The war will go in your country…it will never end.

Regarding >>> ‘shining’ India, poor and biased nation…” <<< Don’t worry, we are really shining on all fronts and u are not, that is why u are jealous. We are on our way to becoming a more prosperous country that is respected across the world. Your country is disintegrating and will come apart due to its own sins and finally, today Pakistan has no respect and credibility in the world community.

Talking to Pakistan is like talking to a deaf and dumb human being. Do they what to talk and mean what they talk???? No, they talk and do something behind our backs. Its sheer waste of time and money. With the mess they are in, no one knows who is controlling the country. There are too many power centres, but in the end their army and the great ISI run the show. With they being that, we can say Salaam......

Being a Muslim, i am glad i am in India and not Pakistan. Even if i am offered everything free there, i would not go there. Your life and career would be ruined there

Time we strengthen ourselves, make ourselves strong, economically, militarily, culturally and politically. Power is what they will understand, not talks......

WE ARE TALKING TO PAKISTAN SINCE 1947 AND TILL DAY NOTHING HAS COME TO CONCLUSION. PAKISTAN ITSELF SPONSORS TERRORISM WITH THE SUPPORT OF TERRORIST ORGANISATIONS. EX: THE ISI. AND WHO IS SUPPORTING THE ISI? OBVIOUSLY THE GOVERNMENT OF PAKISTAN. IS THERE ANYTHING LEFT TO TALK WITH PAKISTAN? DEAR POLITICIANS DONT FOOL THE WORLD. I SUGGEST THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT SPECIALLY TO OUR PM AND S.M. KRISHNAJI NOT TO HAVE TALKS WITH PAKISTAN UNTIL THEY STOP SUPPORTING TERRORISTS INDIRECTLY. OR ELSE DECLARE WAR AND WILL SE WHAT HAPPENS.

MR. SALMAN AHMED, I THINK U R ANOTHER TERRORIST PAKISTANI. FORGET ABOUT NUCLEAR WEAPONS, IF U R A MUSLIM, U SHOULD BE KNOWING THE HADITH OF OUR PROPHET, THAT KILLING INNOCENTS IS NOT JIHAD, THE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO BE JIHADIS KILL INNOCENT CHILDREN, WOMEN AND THE AGED, IS THIS ISLAM? AND MUSLIMS ARE KILLING MUSLIMS IN PAKISTAN, IS THIS ISLAM? IS THIS UR MUSLIMHOOD? OUR PROPHET MOHAMMED (SAWS) SAID "AL-MUSLIM MAN SALIMA AL-MUSLIMUNA MIN LISANIHI WA YADAIHEE, MEANS HE IS NOT ONE AMONGST US WHO HURTS HIS FELLOW MUSLIM BY HIS TONGUE AND HIS HANDS. AND U PEOPLE CLAIM THAT U PEOPLE ARE MUSLIMS. WHAT KIND OF MUSLIMS YA? I THANK ALLAH (THE MOST HIGH) THAT IAM AN INDIAN. NOT A PAKISTANI. ALHAMDULILLAH.

you guys are big headed-10 so called pakistani's, trained in some remote part (as per indian acusations) hold the financial hub of india (mumbai) hostage for 60 hours, kills more then 200 ppl, proves tht indians and their forces are either incompetent or a part of what happened, imagine if instead of 10 they were 100, indian forces will still be fighting lol common sense is not common in india

@ Suhail Ahmed, INDIAN

U have got me wrong. First read what i said.
I am an Indian Muslim and proud of India. My answer was in response to that Paki Tahir Miya who said daringly - Beware our missile & nuclear technology is much superior to yours --- He was threatening us. So i asked him what he will do??? launch nuclear attack or......I also mentioned that u dare not attack us.

I hope u are clear now

. SALMAN AHMED, I THINK U R ANOTHER TERRORIST PAKISTANI. FORGET ABOUT NUCLEAR WEAPONS, IF U R A MUSLIM, U SHOULD BE KNOWING THE HADITH OF OUR PROPHET, THAT KILLING INNOCENTS IS NOT JIHAD,

@ Pakistani Khan

your comments shows u have no head and u dont know what u are talking. Fool, 10 Paki terror devils came here and killed innocent and harmless 200 people who were unarmed. Cowards they were, they took people hostage and battled our forces. They had no guts, taking ladies and small children as hostages, hiding behind doors. Like u they have no shame and guts. Only big talk and loose character

iNSTEAD OF that if they had fought our forces head on, they would have been wiped out in 1 second. Face head on and then watch the drama.

Keep ur big mouth shut and talk with sense. CLEAR your head of donkey dung....u will be clear....

if in any doubt, know that India cannot take over Pakistan. There is absolutely no doubt India is an Economic powerhouse and it was only inevitbl owing to your huge population. I see comments in this forum suggesting nukes. DO you even know what a nuke does? Imagine 150 nuclear bombs triggered at the same time, Mumbai-karachi, Lahore-Kolkata Islamabad-Delhi destroyed in a space of moments. When Plutonium powered bombs detonate they will spell doomsday and all the future generations will be born paralysed. People how many of u or ur frnds live in the major cities of Pakistan/India? meri poori dunya khi mei basee hai! What will Indian Pakistani army fight for after all major cities are reduced to nothing? Why Japs(only country to have suffered a nuke attack)DONT possess nukes? I'll leave that to you.
I am a Pakistani and I know what RAW is doing in Balochistan and Frontier and I also understand few individuals were involved in 26/11 attacks. For the sake of argument lets say ISI is doing a lot of things against india But HEY! are the indians so stupid, its agencies too silly to not return the favour??
India is an Industrial hub and an economic giant, its military well prepared to guard its borders but Pakistan has more than enough to defend itself too. There are a lot of problems and they will only be solved with talks. Guyz therz no other way..therez no other way. All i know is that people who planned mumbai more often kill my own people and destroy families everyday. They bom mosques and mandirs alike and will kill for the sake of killing. Its heart breaking. Quaid-Azzm hoped Ind-Pak would live like US-Canada.We live with arms pointed at each other.

@ DS

I read your comment. But tell me is Pakistan genuinely interested??? It says talk and peace, but behind back it does something else. Guys over there, mainly your army and ISI is against peace and talks because they want the tension to be there, get AID from US and fatten themselves. They only believe in terror and not peace. Your political parties are irrelevent, i know Zardari, NAWAZ sharif, Gilani and Fazlur Rehman desire peace and want to be pals with India, but they are over ridden by your army and ISI. Even Mush wanted peace and everything was ready, but it was sabotaged over there by same people.

Pakistan thinks that Muslims live a wretched life in India, but that's all pure gas I am a Muslim and am very very happy in India and so are my fellow Muslims. There are more opportunities in India and more things can be done in India and all Muslims who are sensible to take advantage can do so. I have a great job and well paid one. No INDIAN Muslims wants to cross over to PAK

I agree Jinnah said that India and Pak should co exist like USA and Canada, but will that happen??? it IS DIFFICULT, and unless a new generation comes up both ways and a huge change is there in your armed forces and ISI, then everything will be just a dream.......

People say Pakistan is a failed state! To analyze this statement, lets look at the reason why Pakistan was established. It was established solely to divide India into two pieces. Therefore, Pakistan has already accomplished it mission the day it was created. Now its time to divide India further. Long Live Pakistan!!!!

SHAHID

You are living in fools paradise and the comment coming from a resident of a classic failed state Pakistan that is now battling its own creations terror groups in various parts of its map, can be expected. This shows your mental development and utter ignorance, living in an illusory world.

Pakistan has been created, and then what, it is now in a huge mess and will remain like this for many years. You say your mission is to divide India further. But foolish man, that will never happen because INDIA will only grow stronger and prosperous and become a great power, while Pakistan will not, it will be divided. YOUR WISH WILL BE FULFILLED. Who will divide it??? It will be divided on its own, no need to enter it coz elements within Pak will divide it among themselves and its happening now there. Staying in that nuisance country, you are witnessing it and one day, you will see many mini Pakistans each still fighting the other. Enjoy then your great country's shape.

JAI HIND!!!!! Bharat Mata Ki Jai.........

too bad they didn't pass my previous post.
YES, we are fighting groups that we created and the whole nation is ONE with PAK army on this. Pakistan created these groups to take care of Soviets and now they need to vanish. Nations act according to their interests therz no shying away from this issue.
Riaz,
ISI is doing what RAW, CIA and MOSAAD does. Pakistan Army like any army has to be prepared to guard its borders. The 2 are arguably the most disciplnd organizations of the Country. Sir, Glad that Indian Muslims live happily good fr uuuu!! cheers but some families including my own crossed over to Pakistan after '47. If in any doubt, I Love this place. so ur happy there im happy here things couldnt be better. Both countries live in tremendous trust deficit and thats our problem. This 160 million strong state cannot be taken over by a bunch of hoodlums with AK-47's......and it's no rocket science. so Pakistan is not breaking no sir. By the way, a strong Pakistan and India is good for both countries.

DS

If you are talking about some who crossed over to PAK after 1947, then there are several thousands more who wanted to cross over, but discarded the idea since they all knew that they can find better prospects and security in India than Pak. This has proved correct. India is better off any day and offers opportunities and freedom that u and Muslims in OTHER Muslim nations can only dream of. It is the best place for Muslims.

Only time will tell if the 160 million strong state can withstand a bunch of hoodlums with AK-47's. But you have understood that those who sow the problem reap its fruits and that is what Pak is experiencing today.

Yes, a strong Pakistan and India is good for both countries, but are elements in your country ready for the same? For that a change in the mindset of some of the political parties, entire armed forces and ISI must come about. and of course you need to wipe out not only TALIBAN, but also LeT, JeM,and other so many terror groups on your soil. Will you people do that? That's a million dollar question and chances are that it is NIL.

Time will surely tell and from what i can see its only a matter of weeks before these guys are taken care off.
You seem to ignore my replies on ISI. It's just like any other spy agency in the world. It's proven Samjhota express was blown up by an Indian Major, Mr.Sarabjeet singh is under custody of ISI and 7Indian consulates along the Pak-Afghan border is no more a secret. These are facts and I am not even talking about Confessions because people tend to doubt their authenticity. Anyways, it prooves RAW is not sleeping doesn't it? To say ISI and Pakistan Army doesn't want peace is too far fetched an idea. All i ask is Y?? Y will the army want that? People talk about US aid it's accumulated to around 12-14billion dollars post 9-11. Firstly, just recently the Finance Minister worked out on the expenses of "The War on Terror" and it worked out to 35b dollars. So people the gap is all Pakistani Tax payers money. Secondly, I think nobody would doubt that USofA is a Country which will do whatever it takes to achieve its International goals and it happens to be what Pak wants along the durand line at the moment. US is no saint, its doing this to pursue its own Interest.

DS

I agree ISI is just like any other spy agency in the world. But pray why is it lampooned and blamed by all countries for terror attacks in their nations? It has been blamed by US, UK, France, Germany and Russia, etc. Have u not read statements made by these countries against ISI? (The statements are too big to be published in blog comments since it consumes acres of space) Has not Wall Street Journal and other respected journals come out with revelations damning ISI?? Are they all pack of lies?? You can read the same in Google search. Was not ISI the founder father of Al Qeada and Taliban not to forget LeT, JeM, etc. It has its goal of helping these terror groups of establishing Caliphate in this world and creates anarchy across the world? These are facts and every human being across the world knows it, even you though you pretend to not know. RAW does not have that image. That’s the difference.

Really, has it been proven that Samjhota express was blown up by an Indian Major and NOT BY LeT? LeT did it since it wanted to disrupt INDIA – Pak peace process (it is allergic to the same and so to keep the fire burning, it stokes troubles)? These are real facts.

DS

Why and your fellow pakis are paranoid about the presence of Indian consulates along the Pak-Afghan border? WHAT IS IT FOR? It is meant to assist Indian cos with getting projects and other diplomatic work, so many Indian cos are there involved in infra construction works and they have successfully built many infra projects despite the dirty disruptive of ISI and its backed terror groups?? These facts have also confirmed by US, UK, Russia, Afghan itself and the West? Who can forget that ISI was responsible for bombing the INDIAN Embassy in Kabul??? This is something that ISI always does and you must feel look inwards and ask your people to mend their ways. Have you heard that Pak has been declared among the top ten failed states in the world bracketed with Somalia, Sudan, etc? Why is it so?? Just introspect.

ISI and Pakistan Army wants peace with India? That’s the biggest joke that anyone will hear. I had already given my reply in my 1st comment to you, read carefully. Anyway my comment again - - It never wants and why? Because it can keep its coffers flourishing and indulge in skimming the aid money it gets from US and the West into its pockets?? THE AID MONEY IS ALSO used for strengthening terror groups infra and other aspects so that they can indulge in their terror games against INDIA. None of the money goes to fighting the terrorists that you people say are fighting. The whole world knows it and the same has been published by Wall street Journal and other noted journals and institutions. What more proof u want? Pls accept all these and introspect and advice your people rather than cooking up some idiotic facts or the other

If Pak wants peace, it needs to behave as a responsible and civilized nation else it can forget about it and be shunned by the world.