arunachal pradesh is a part of INDIAN territory. we dont need china's permission in anything concerning it

Good article! Don't take eye ball off China and remain prepared for the worst while hoping for the best. India should also work rapidly on its second-strike capability. In that context two things need to happen militarily in addition to silo launch facilities. India needs a credible submarine missile launch capabilitity and it needs the capability to strike down military satellites in space at will. China has this capability which should get every Indian worried.

With regard to China asking India questions about its relationship with its immediate neighbour , one could ask Chinese about their relations with Japan and Taiwan and with Muslims in Xinjiang province.

China remains India's greatest military threat and in order not to negotiate out of fear India should bring its military capability at par with China's. Thanks.

It is imperative that Indian intellegentia in general and Indian stratergic planners recognise that India faces existential threat from China foremost.China's policy towards India would give any startergic planners creeps.There isthis nation that is economically,militarily and culturally hugely robust;has a history of animosity and supposed vengeance for India to replace India with China as cultural fulcrum of Asia.It has illegally occupied chunks of our terrirtoy;arms pakistan to teeth to counter our influence in South Asia and more importantly has many sympathisere here right in center of our polity. As a wise man once said,"Pull up your pants".

You cannot find a country which has violated the human rights more than China. Its a country which in the name of development has involved in filthy acts like stealing documents and technology from other country. Its a country which prospers on flooding the other country's markets with fake products.

On the other hand 'India is a Country of Integrity'. India would never compromise on its values even if it has to compromise on a double digit growth rate.

The Chinese government of the past, in order to safeguard its interest in Sudanese oil, has not only turned a blind eye to the atrocities committed by the Sudanese government, but has offered its genocidal trading partner protection in the United Nations Security Council.

While other governments have criticized the genocide in Darfur, Chinese leaders have called on other nations to respect sudan's "sovereignty," the same phrase used by the Chinese Communist Party to shield their own continuingly atrocious human rights record—which includes the persecution of democracy advocates, Falun Gong, House Christians, and Tibetans—from the rest of the world

You can conduct one of the best olympic tournaments of the world but god only knows how many villagers were forcibly evacuated and misplaced with their lives ruined for life.

"INDIA IS A COUNTRY WITH HEART AND CHINA IS A COUNTRY WITH MIND".

You cannot find a country which has violated the human rights more than China. Its a country which in the name of development has involved in filthy acts like stealing documents and technology from other country. Its a country which prospers on flooding the other country's markets with fake products.

On the other hand 'India is a Country of Integrity'. India would never compromise on its values even if it has to compromise on a double digit growth rate.

The Chinese government of the past, in order to safeguard its interest in Sudanese oil, has not only turned a blind eye to the atrocities committed by the Sudanese government, but has offered its genocidal trading partner protection in the United Nations Security Council.

While other governments have criticized the genocide in Darfur, Chinese leaders have called on other nations to respect sudan's "sovereignty," the same phrase used by the Chinese Communist Party to shield their own continuingly atrocious human rights record—which includes the persecution of democracy advocates, Falun Gong, House Christians, and Tibetans—from the rest of the world

You can conduct one of the best olympic tournaments of the world but god only knows how many villagers were forcibly evacuated and misplaced with their lives ruined for life.

"INDIA IS A COUNTRY WITH HEART AND CHINA IS A COUNTRY WITH MIND".

China is, in terms of millitarilly and economically, more stronger than India and the solution for a stable and security in the Asian Nations depends on cooperation and not encountered on different front. China's millitary robust is now at par with the developed world like US and India lacks behind in many fronts to match up with it. Good diplomatic relation couple with mutual understanding could give a lasting peace and security else if the two giant Nation competes rather than co-operation to bring a stable Asia, it is doomed to destruction for all of us. 'Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?', says Abraham Lincoln.

I recently read an article where some of the inmates of the Guantanamo Bay prison dont want to go back to their country China becuase they think China is worse than Guantanamo bay.. guys, can you imagine that??? I thought Guantanamo Bay was the World headquarters of HUman Rights Violation but an inmate reluctant to go to his country should tell us something.
China has always had territorial ambitions - be it Tibet, Taiwan, Laos, Phillipines they have border disputes with all of them.
They already have a piece of Ladakh - the area called Aksai Chin and also parts of Himachal Pradesh. We should have crushed them in 1962 when our IAF was better equipped to attack across Himalayas, but unfortunately Nehru chickened out.

China is fraud......
You shd be cautious... but not worry and get tensed about them....

China is mad every one they do not like EU, India and entire west, please r3eport something new

We must keep an eye on the chinks as they are quite jingoists and think they are the only supeor in Asia, they forget that India is catching up economically and also militarily India is actually superioir to Chinkis in the air and Navy with land forces being parity. Further clearly US + Nato + Russians will side with India in any situation. Chinki bad chinki bad

The article in the Chinese paper says "India is frustrated that China’s rise has captured much of the world’s attention". Its the Chinese who are frustrated by India's rise. Thats why they do things like trying to block NSG approval for the nuclear deal and now by trying to block ADB loans. Also, the Chinese talk abt how India does not have great relationships with neighbours like Pakis, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. This is pot calling the kettle black. The Chinese have to look at the relations they have with Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam, India and Russia. They have actually fought wars with each and every country. China is one of the biggest threats to global peace. India should be fully prepared to face any eventuality. China is trying to encircle India by providing arms and even nuclear arms technology to India's neighbours. Now who is the war-mongerer? India or China?

It doesn't get more funnier than this. There is this country building humongous dams and buildings, complaining about a small incident like this. Clear signs of insecurity. Right from the nuclear deal to any other international treaty benefiting India is always opposed by one country, that is China. It is very evident that China is desperate to seek international attention and identity from these incidents.

What is even funnier is the land claims made by China. I don't even know what to say. Arunachal Pradesh a part of China?

Indrani,
We agree that China is not interested in India getting fund, where did it lashed out at India and other countires.

I am not sure what you are trying to tell except boosting Pranab mukharge immage.
It is not that worth aricle to write

India should stop exporting its 90 percent iron ore to china at peanut price and should open steel plant in states like jharkhand chattisgarh from where ore are taken, this will provide jobs for people and development of those state. India should not be a colony of china for creating wealth there and poverty here. India does not lack manpower so should process ore here

India should stop exporting its 90 percent iron ore to china at peanut price and should open steel plant in states like jharkhand chattisgarh from where ore are taken, this will provide jobs for people and development of those state. India should not be a colony of china for creating wealth there and poverty here. India does not lack manpower so should process ore here

I take objection to the statement that India has to adjust. Why should India be adjusting all the time? It is time other nations begin to adjust to our requirements too - We cannot keep bending backwards and letting other nations do as they please. This applies to territorial integrity of India as a country, as well as for Non Resident Indians, be they where they are.

Looks like this article has been placed by the Chinese hackers. Give China a hard time just as it has challenged India and told it to F.O. do the same to them. Or they will continue to slap you and this will encourage our other neighbours to do the same. Does anybody have the guts to tell China about Tibet. So pull up your socks and fight it out.

Jai Hind

Solution is simple- build military strength against China and you are automatically protected against Pakistan which is thousand times weaker.

China is an idea, a concept conceived by chairman Mao. They are jealous of India, hence their illiterate attacks on India via the media. India should not pay any attention to the commies. Instead, India should aim some nuclear weapons at Bejing. Why?? For their consistent support of terrorism against India via Pakistan. India should also claim some of China's terrory, seeing that they are claiming part of India. The border towns and lands claimed by China should be fully populated, the Indian government should move beggars into apartments built near the Chinese border as a first line of claim and defence. Furthermore, a nuclear test should be conducted in Arunchal Pradesh as sign to the Commies. Mess with us and you will be fried like "chillie pork" in hot oil.

China is an idea, a concept conceived by chairman Mao. They are jealous of India, hence their illiterate attacks on India via the media. India should not pay any attention to the commies. Instead, India should aim some nuclear weapons at Bejing. Why?? For their consistent support of terrorism against India via Pakistan. India should also claim some of China's terrory, seeing that they are claiming part of India. The border towns and lands claimed by China should be fully populated, the Indian government should move beggars into apartments built near the Chinese border as a first line of claim and defence. Furthermore, a nuclear test should be conducted in Arunchal Pradesh as sign to the Commies. Mess with us and you will be fried like "chillie pork" in hot oil.

Restraint rather than flamboyance should be the hallmark of Indian diplomacy, esp with big powers like China.

I notice a kind of one upmanship coming out in overt statements by the new Government which does not augur well for diplomacy.

Diplomacy is the use of tact and intelligence in the conduct of relations with foreign states.

There is no need to be high profile if that warrants against self-interest.

Maturity & quiet diplomacy which give lasting dividends and quiet concessions should be the hallmarks. Always brief before-hand through normal diplomatic channels rather than display stealth and surprise before taking such steps.

You cannot compare india with china.india is 100 years behind china.when you go to china you see the diffrence.india will never be able to fight with china.remember 1962.china has a very proffational army.indian army is crupt and has no morral value(what indian army did in kashmir few days ago,rape and kill innocent girls)and you indians are so shameless that you are not even condeming it.india look good when she compaire herself with pakistan or bangladesh.stop dreamming

Before taking on China, their political sympathisers - read left parties need to tackled effectively. The left parties have to be made to realise that their loyality lies to the Indian political system and not to communism

Hello , this is a well written article with good excerpts from the Chinese editorial given. In my opinion China is a better equipped and a better-off country in terms of the economy, millitary as well as international influence. Yes, India is an emerging economy and a major force but it cannot match China on those terms. It is a given that the Chinese government is one of the most controlling , least diversified government and they have violated human rights more than once , but it still does not change the fact that India still has a very very long way to go before it can claim the 'super-power' status that countries like U.S and China boast.

The editorial in Global Times is not balanced. Does China seriously expect India to keep quiet while it keeps on piling troops along its border and improving its border infrastructure tremendously ?. So that one fine day they can attack and cut through Arunachal Pradesh all the way to Meghalaya?..If small Indian moves in self-defense are described as "aggressive", what do we say about China's own measures? China does not want to compete with India in any way and tries only to stifle competition through underhand means.

No more Indo Chin Bhai Bhai please! Get the diplomatic offenses going and corner the dragon in all possible ways! Indeed India has a superior political system, no doubt! India does not need to influence international arena. That day will automatically come as the political systems mature further. This is where we request our politicians to take the leaf out Chanakya to counter the menace that China posts to India. There is no better political science book in the world! China is now literally claiming ownership of Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh through the self proclaimed documents. This is not good for progressive India. Time to take swift action and put this to rest!

I really do not know who is best? Hombre the £$ talks, everywhere,sometimes I love the people I speak to, sometimes not.....However, most do not read the horror stories here, and are pleasant young indians (sorry for swearing on the phone young ladies). Cheers!

I Appreciate and happy to learn about this issue and I congratulate India on this. However, I would like to bring your attention to some of the real issues.

1. We pat our own backs... stop it.
This does not help anyway but it makes us frog in a well.

2. Have a National feeling like chinese.
Many times I found (especially in New Delhi) people do not even stand for National Anthem played in theaters.

3 We proudly say our traditions are great and we do not want to change.
People confuse between traditions and quality of life. Everyone wants comfort but dont want to responcible for anything.
Remember we do not even have toilets today in many states, check out the news of Haryana where ladies decided not to marry their girls in a house without toilet, good move.

4. Everything happens in west
Large masses have this belief.. results.... if you want to do something new.. go abroad.. brain drain..

what we miss is ATTITUDE.
Its does not matter wheather China is defeated on some diplomatic front, but it matters how we defeat ourselfs everyday, if continued, we dont need anyone else to defeat us.
"If you wish to progress use your MIND"

Those in uniform in India should not be allowed to make any speech regarding the foreign affairs & the relations with any country. Indian defence forces are getting equiped & redeployed to secure dispersal of its troops & not against China,Pakistan, Nepal or Burma now Myanmar.Deployment of disposition of its strategic forces is India's internal matter & is a part of training for its various wings of forces.Sometime back India Air Marshal while talking to the media remarked that China is bigger enemy was disregarded by me in one of my opinion earlier. Such comments must not be made in public media & even in person by any public servent when the politicians are available in largest numbers to comment. How the Air Marshel will feel if he has to go to China on official visit? There is a Ministry of Defense & have to follow the strategy of speech as desired & contemplated by the PM in Cabinet of Ministers & Air Marshal is not a member of cabinet & his acts must be kept out of public & media.This liberty was not available in the past & must be imposed in the code of behaviour of Uniformed or even other public servents. They should act & not verbalize their conduct as it invokes unnecessary bitterness in the international relations.I fully support & agree with globespotting contents.

Being a regular reader of this author in TOI, today I am totally disappointed. Tell me frankly, did u get money from the commies to write this?

You can never trust China and we have learnt this in the past. It is a big bully that prides in its military power and strength. It assumes that it can over power India like it did in 1962 agression it carried out on the weak India then. It is the number one enemy of India. India should be beware of the cummies.

As someone mentioned India should increase its defence spending by 10 times to match or exceed China and give up no-first use policy. SHould be offensive about China's hegemonistic views about the region and shows its rightful place, which should be restricted to other side of Himalayas and Tibet. We need to be more assertive as a nation ask that country to shut up..

India should learn from the way China conducts its foreign policy and develop strong ties with countries around China. It should support Taiwan in its bid to be an independent country and co-operate with the Republic of Korea, Japan, Thailand, Viet Nam, Mongolia, etc. in putting an end to the voracious appetite of the dragon for territory that belonged to it only in a dream that it only had. The Ming emperors thought that the whole world should pay them tribute: the modern rulers want to do one better - they want to own others' territory.

INDIAN AIRLINES IS HAVING RATE CONTRACTS WITH SOME HOTELS IN DELHI AND BOMBAY FOR Rs 4000 UPWARDS. BUT OFFICIALS ARE PUT UP IN THESE HOTELS WHEN ON DUTY TOUR ARE ENTITLED TO Rs 1600 PLUS BREAKFAST OF 150. HOW RATE CONTRACTS OF 4000 UPWARDS ARE APPROVED WHEN THE ENTITLEMENT IS ONLY 1600?

Hi,

I think I lost the plot except for the first three paragraphs you seem to enclose everything in quotes. Are these your view of merely a translation of the Chinese newspaper article. I seriously don't want to mistake these for your views.
And for all those people recommending submission to China don't forget 1950 it was not much better than what India was. Believing and single minded focus on their interest has resulted in what they are 60 years. Not a long time.

this is a very pro china article.coming from indrani bagchi am i surprised.

I want to share an experience which made me realise what chinese manufacturers think of indian customers. I bought a top of cost rs 650 from kamla nagar, delhi. I came to know after buying by its tag that it was made in china (or else i would have never bought it at first place). Top is of black colour and it leaves black spots even if i just keep it on other clothes( without washing) which shows its cheap quality. I live in europe, during my visit to india,,,i saw goods being saled and advertised as made in china...as though it is our good fortune that we are getting chinese products. Top was such a simple example,,,imagine the ways in which chinese products are penetrating indian market.

Despite the flaws, China is leaps and bounds ahead of India. It also enjoys the first mover advantage and India will have to pull off many more diplomatic victories against its northern neighbor to stay in the race. To the dismay of my countrymen, I'd like to admit that India's standing as a growing power will depend on the support it receives from the Americans or the Chinese based on circumstances.
Chinese hard power - US dollar reserves, better per capita incomes, more FDI, better social equality - cannot be matched by India's democracy alone.

An unstable India is Asia's interest. A stable and economically strong India would be security threat to Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Nepal. It would cause major problems. India should be destabilized from within. I am surprised why Pakistan is voting for ADB funding for India. It is an extremely poor judgment on Pakistan's part.

China is a supreme threat and should always be treated like it, don't forget all that sweet talk of 1962 and china propping every country in direct neighbourhood of india whether its pakistan,nepal,myanmar,sri lanka with arms, finance and support to win them over. Whether we like it or not one day we will have to have a showdown and we better prepare for it. Being soft state has got us no where with us losing Kashmir, part of which was donated by pakistan to china which was never thiers to give. Country defence comes first as without it all the gains we have made will be robbed in one single confrontation. China is an unreliable country with involvement in every single rougue country in the world as it has not integrity and ethics just pure finacial greed, unfortunately closing eyes to imminent danges is not going to help us and sooner we start working on building a deterrent better it is which means we need to buildupon what we have achieved and grow financially faster than china for some years while working on our defenses.

Indrani is on target in assessing the chinese chicanary.actually it is a blessing in disguise for INDIA,like the pickle with creamy yogurt rice.keeps india on its toes.afteral but for the but kicking in'62 by the chinese in TAWANG we wouldn't have woken up to realise the fallacy of "indo-chini bhai bhai".so we learned to say bye bye to chinese two face and got reality check.rest is history.but they are trying hard with encirclement of india which is not working simply because we are masters of "CHAKRAVYUH" or the art of encirclement in warfare of mahabaratha fame battle of kurukshethra.we respond in and to crisis,otherwise we are placid.but we should start learning the art of anticipation as we climb the geo political hierarchy&pecking order in order to secure our place which we do rightfuly deserve&earned on our own merits.

india should stop competing with pakistan and compete with china and ally with US in all areas...

AGAIN pakistan is not our competitor you stupid indian ppl and politicians..

india should also endorse a millitary movement to free Tibet... under pressure it says tibet is part of china..
moreover, we also claim on the part of kashmir that is under chinese control..

China is always a threat to India in all ways. But diplomacy demands that we pretend otherwise. India has to be cautious all the time. This was a good diplomatic victory. But we can not rest on this laurels. China is way ahead of India in all areas. India can only boast of a stable and democratic setup. If you keep repeating a lie for many years, the next generation will start beleiving the lie to be truth. This way, China will take away Arunachal Pradesh one day in the far future. India has to play smart.

Nice article!

However my comment on this para:
""India's current course can only lead to a rivalry between the two countries. India needs to consider whether or not it can afford the consequences of a potential confrontation with China. It should also be asking itself why it hasn’t forged the stable and friendly relationship with China that China enjoys with many of India's neighbors, like Pakistan, Nepal and Sri Lanka."

1. There is a hindi saying Ek myan mein do talwarein nahi rah sakti :)
2. World know the present condition of India's neighbors, like Pakistan, Nepal and Sri Lanka, who came under influence of China and have suffered on all front.

I can smell something is burning.China is jealous..why their editor forgets that India`s impression in the world community is better that china....evidevt by Nuke deal,Russia friendship,NATO,UN,US,EU all of them wanna be friends with us..moreover we are good and honest..SATYAMEV JAYATE..Truth allways wins ,so no worries mate..

sir,There is no comparison between India and china
as India is a democratic and valuebased society
where as china is an Iron curtain state devoid of
all civility and rule of law.Chinese are bent upon
subverting all norms which is evident abunduntly
by tianaman square incident.They have been engaged
in transfering neuclear technology surreptitiously
to Korea,Iran and Pakistan thereby creating problems for the international community.How can
one say they have no dispute with neighbours?They
have long standing dispute with Russia,India,
Taiwan and others.The fact is china is a bully
which has become permanent pain for the whole
world and should be takcled as such.Their progress
is splattered with blood of innocents whereas
India is a country with unmatched tradition of
being civil and polite to all and does not meddle
in others affairs.One must rest assured that India
will emerge a much stronger economically and is
a country to watch and china will stand nowhere
which is fraught with disaster to happen.

An excellent article on a very fragile subject...i think it is very much appropriate to think that the chinese is breathing down our indian necks...but as said if the two countries enter into the war field then china will have to face consequences at the trade table at the hands of the russians and the americans....These countries are just waiting for a chance to get the chinese...so i dont think a war will occur....atleast until united states has got its interests in india..

Like NSW govt in Australia India should stop importing Chinese goods. China is a clear enemy. As long as they are communist and not democratic - they should be blacklisted and economically punished.

India at the current stage is decades behind China and we all know that. But that does not mean we have to be soft towards them. We are in a competition and China is soon catching up in areas where we are good. But we do have one thing which cannot be stole from us, democracy and China is no where near to that.

There is some sort of unrest happening in China because of Communism and no-property rights in rural areas. China's aggressive growth will fuel its demise also if it does not take reforms. And reforms will also be expansive and not happen over night. That is the time when we can catch their pace, if not overtake them

Is this writer an agent of China. She is trying to create fear factor in India. India can't rise if it harbours that feeling of inferiority. Good job India...keep it up

Mukherjee's back door diplomatic haggling technique is very good. This was a stroke of genius by the MEA in an otherwise poor effort in Indian foreign policy. The Chinese aren't mad about the $2.9 billion dollars, nor are they mad about $60 million dollar loan for Arunachal Pradesh(AP). They are angry at the tacit approval by the international community, especially of the US that Arunachal Pradesh is part of India and therefore any aid for the purpose of development of AP should be given to India. China still disputes India's claim on AP but now it is isolated in its stand in the global community. This was truly a stroke of diplomatic genius. I also like the fact that India is not getting incensed at these very harsh Chinese words. What's the point of escalating a diplomatic row after we have already won this round of diplomacy!! Politics to koi Indian se sekhe, khandan se le ke parliament or UN tak!! Really awesome :-)

Chinese are arrogant and have no concern for anybody except their own gain. I live in a country nearly filled with them. Their only aim is to amass wealth and by any means possible. This is a race that does not follow normal basic human ideologies. Before the filth spreads, they should be destroyed by any means necessary.

I have a lot of experience with the Chinese, both as an Army officer and as a businessman. I have got to know many Chinese friends and I have done a lot of business with them. The one quality I find in the Chinese is that they are quite hardworking and honest people. I think very strongly that we Indians must get to know the Chinese better.

Whilst Tawang and Arunachal Pradesh is very much a part of India and we will defend it with our might, we must let the Chinese know we are not their enemy. We have very high regard for the Chinese culture and we want to live in peace with the Chinese. I have strong hope that one day our borders will be open to one another and we can be close friends like we were for the last five thousand years.

Samiboy...

Yes your are right , India can't compete with China in producing trash in tones and dumping on globe whereever possible, violating human rights, do you know what happend at "Tiananmen Square" in 1989. In all these India is far behind China.

Speak to a chinese, who left thier country in last 10 years...you will understand more about China..Dont relay on the stastics which was declared by Chinese offcials...

Visit India and China before you decide anything.

China is few centuries behind Indian in knowledge based ...

As Vijay told "INDIA IS A COUNTRY WITH HEART AND CHINA IS A COUNTRY WITH MIND".

The editorial says that India cannot afford to mess with china and cannot bear the consequences due to its internal weak structure.....I am happy that Chinese media is in this misconception....According to my knowledge China has made innumerable enemies including the chinese citizens themselves ..So who will suffer or who will not ...the citizens of two countries will decide that not the governments...and I feel Indian citizens will win hands down :-)

I don't trust China one bit. Yes, they are definitely more advanced than us at the moment but they are very wary of our emerging global influence. I'm not surprised they have maintained a good relationship with Pakistan. In fact, I'm quite sure China supply a lot of arms and supplies that can be used against India. I hope politicians around the world take heed of their editorial otherwise I'm sure China would love to make an example out of us like what they did with Tibet.

"Proud of its "advanced political system," India feels superior to China."

This statement totally shows the HUGE inferiority complex that China suffers from regarding India. The free world should be every bit cautious about the Communist State that denies basic human rights to its citizens.

With technology enabling grassroots democratic movements all over the world (read Moldova and Iran), the days of dictatorships and Communist syndicates are numbered.

I think they best way to deal with this China is give little bit of land to them and make them shut for ever. Other wise he wil make 10 peices of our country. Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh, Nepal all are agaist us, after this LTTE whipe out, now I hear Tamil state, wants freedom. So give them some land and just leave it there.

I think India needs a pragmatic and aggressive approach to contain the growing Chinese influence that threatens India's stability. We can easily achieve this by using an effective blend of Intelligence and diplomacy.. Our RAW can create havoc if it can penetrate to Xingjian and Tibet. Majority of the Chinese are not happy as the economic disparity between the upper class and lower class is growing. The intelligence should collaborate with CIA on this front and such unrest will ultimately disintegrate the stability of China. (Remember even US is under threat by China!!) Once it starts to disintegrate, the story will be similar to the former USSR. The new countries surrounds India will no longer a threat (like Tibet). Remember we can not defeat China on Military front but we can easily attain our goal by destabilising China. I think major powers will silently supports this and can achieve our goal within a decade!

I believe that most of the visitors have expressed very true picture about the sense of insecurity Chinese have been living with. First they are really so jealous of Indian upsurge in the global market as a very robust and very influencial economy. Second they have a complex that Indians are much more proficient in the linguistic skills than these Chinese and have upper hand in getting through so much achievements compared to them. Third but not least Indians are less corrupt buureaucrat though they pretend to be in control by showing the execution of corrupt officials. To counter such an evil government, India must start dig into the vulnarabilty China has such as Philippines, Thialand as it has always did by abetting our neighbours by means of military, nuclear, technological or developmental aids. It has always used a shrewd strategy by assisting and encouraging these nations against the interests of India. India must also use more effective diplomacy to counter any such move by China, India must launch a campaign diplomatically with perfection that would bring China's vicious strategy to the light for the world. At the same time, we must also forge an alliance with Russia for the defence treaty just like Mrs. Gandhi had signed with the then earstwhile USSR. But the most important steps must be to equip the defence with all the essentials that are in defeceits right now. Plan its technogical adancement with much higher speed and priorities. But don't forget to stop third grade imports from China. They have always been so fishy in their trade practices. india must stop any imports thaat includes useless products that may look attractive but of no value indeed. This will also help our domestic producers come to lives. Lastly but again not leastly, build up our army, airforce and navy more and more stronger. I know it cannot dare for any misadventure with India yet we must always, always be prepared to thwart any eventuality. Build more bases along the border.

China and India are like siblings competing and developing together. China can not get away from India nor can India, territorially we are where we are. Why not try to understand each other and cooperate? I know the older brother gave us a bloody nose while we were growing up, but we are brothers - Hindi Chini bhai bhai.

China's "String of Pearls" has encircled India on all sides and its policy has left us with no friends on all sides, latest to join this ugly club is Sri Lanka, with active military and financial support sri lanka massacred thousands of tamils in the name of fighting LTTE. With our shanti mellow foreign policy dont be surprised to see even small islands pisssing on India.

Now that's extremely funny @ India is frustrated that China’s rise has captured much of the world’s attention. No doubt China is doing extremely well, but, Poor chinese people fail to realise that India will overtake China within a decade. Nope, they do realise it very well, they are just scared and too shrewd to accept it. China boasts about it's successful population control strategies and labour employment. At the same time, India's fast growing IT and Outsourcing sector brings nightmares to China. Poor chinese, not their fault! They are just writing such stuffs to convince the world that they are better and more advanced than us. Guyz, our job is to ignore it. Why to bother, let them keep blabbering! The world does have eyes of its own. India is growing much faster than China and is both economically and politically stable compared with our 'deer' neigbours.Oopz! I mean 'dear'! The Fact shall remain Untouched!

John, don't just comment for the sake of agreement. China is going to get downsized sooner or later as overdependence on military might to run a country will end in disaster. Until now China has enjoyed a favoured trading partner status with many countries, including US, UK & Australia which was more because of their iron grip on the economy through might. However, this is going to end soon as New South Wales in Australia has withdrawn the favoured status to Chinese goods over Australian goods. Very soon the rest of Australia, US & other countries will follow suit to stop the surreptitious way through which Chinese companies invest/buy in foreign countries at the behest of their political leaders.

It's really sad to hear the comments from people to maintain friendly relation with china bcaz it's enemy number 1 for india.It will use all it's resources to put obsticales in india' growth.It is having nice relations with our neighbours to make us more unsecure by surrounding us.We have to take bold steps to keep china under check & i am sure china cannot go to war under this circumstances were it's neighbour is armed with nuclear capabilites so it's truely economical war & we have to take full support of japan US to make it fell more unsecure.China is not trust worthy nation atleast for India.

Hail His Holiness The Dalai Lama, The Venerated Head of State of the Independent Buddhist Republic of Tibet!!!

Arunachal Pradesh is a part of China indeed. i come from south china.

Agreed that china has an upperhand on military front and economically strong, but we shouldn't submit to some one just because of those reasons.

You mean to say we shouldn't act against china just because its stronger?

Imagine... you wouldn't be saying these words in a country like china for which you might be hanged till death for your stance in this debate.

Try understanding the situation properly and then post your editorial or what ever....

Manoj

very good written article..only that we need to wake up to our weakness and china's strenght..no doubt we are growing economically, still we are behind chinese.economic might is military might, we ought to have special plan to counter china , both in economic sphere and military spehere..no dount, if there is a war, damage to India will be more, we need to defeat these chinese economically, strategically and militarily, make out internal intellegence more strong..more robust economic growth and more influence in eco-political world, China harrased a US navel warship..only china can do that and US can just make noises..we ought to develop that level of economic clout that western powers see us in fear and respect, need more sophisticated military , stronger alliance with Israel on military and security to defeat these chinese..chinese are the most vile and cheat of all ppl in world..its the only country who will use military against its own people..it has history of doing that..if they can be so cruel to their own ppl , imagine how harsh and ruthless they can be when they want to win against a hostile neighbor.we have lost strategically to china in the indian sub continent, tehy have made bases in srilanka, maldeves...we need to get out act together and have a china stratey, all inclusive..economic, military, intellegence, diplomatic..everything..

China and Chinese can never be good to India. All these moves made by that Government,were only to promote their companies in India and take the precious foreign exchange away from our Country. We have surrendered the communication investments to China and Chinese whereas we do not have any such investments of these magnitude in China. I would like to strongly advocate to ban China and Chinese products from India and at least our Congress Government would learn the lessons. Chinese smart cards, Chinese equipments for Telecom Sectors and Chinese toys which are criminal waste as their durability is just two days drain our country and expose to all kinds of grave risks. There is a saying in China that you produce anything and then dump in India as they are only conscious about the price and not about the quality. One day, India will be projected as a country with poor quality and unreliable products manufactured in China and used only in India. Communication network is important and we cannot expose our country to grave risks.

Even one occasion, when some IAS officers were to be sent to China (of all the countries for training) they refused Visa just for a frivolous reason that one officer hailed from Arunachal Pradesh and the visa was denied. Is it not atrocious? But, some of our Ministers are more than willing to help them for pea nuts not understanding the the Chinese mentality. Let our distinguished and learned PM understand the machinations of China to stop India grow to self dependent and reliant and put a full stop to their moves in India. Let them not bleed our country with their third rate products and make our Country ever dependent on them.

If we encourage Chinese equipments come to India, indirectly we cripple our economy and one day we may have to spend much more to replace them. They will oppose anything for India to grow and that is their success. Hit them hard on the trade. They will learn the lessons. Ban all China products from India.

Its a mindblowing and intriguing fact that China which gained freedom almost 10 years later than india has moved almost 20 years ahead of us. We need to do some introspection and hold a few brain storming sessions to come out with reasons for the same. What is more striking is that even if we eventually do that we wont be able to apply corrective actions as we as Indian political system lack the grip and tooth. China is a value based economy with sustained development as its prime motive. Why should we have this fuss? Lets STOP the blame game and start doing. Everyone can atleast do their own bit, thats the reason we have come so far and i do believe that if we keep our heads cool, keep working on our individual family level, we as a collective society can make the much needed difference. JAI HIND!!!

China is THE biggest threat to India. I foresee a Chinese attack on Sikkim and/or AP in nest 7-10 years. India has to up development in North East. The infrastrcuture has to be built as if the war is going to be tomorrow. A mad race to get roads, airports, train connectivity.. whatever it takes. Plus social development. Only a rich and booming NE can be expected to willing to be in the Indian State.
Next, and more important - forge reliable alliances. We can not handle China alone. We need reliable partners. US is our best bet. Without being very emotional, we need to understand that US as scared of China as we are, and so we become natural friends. Ofcourse we can demand more from US, if we are smart. Just like Japan and Germany did. We need a much stronger alliance with US, even if it means allowing US bases in India.
Oh ya, and lastly - idiots like Karunanidhi, whose love for foreign Tamils seems to be more than love for India, need to be told one thing bluntly. Indian interests are to have good relations with SL, else China would have our place. And that is damn risky. If the black glasses can't understand this, he needs to be thrown in the sea !!

If China fails to understand why it does not enjoy the same level of friendship what it has with Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal and other south asian countries then it is ironical. China needs to think about the these top reasons:-
1) China's illegal occupation of many thousand hectares of Indian territories including the highly symbolical Kailash mountain, 2) China's meddling around other Indian borders like Sikkim and Arunachal, 3) China's record in Tibet, 4) China's overt and covert support to Maoist un-ethical operations in Nepal, 5) China's continued military and nuclear support to Pakistan just to keep India occupied on that front, so as to have Pakistan as a counter-threat, 6) Chinese policy on Myanmar etc. This list can go on. In fact for ages it has been China's numero uno foreign policy for many years now to keep India in check. The very reason that chinese government is speaking out loud now is this only.

China's speaking about it's growth and governance is also uestinable. China's model of development is not sustainable. China has an advantage only in production sector and it has no expertise in services sector. Chinese advantage in production also is largely driven by unethical reasons. In fact the whole chinese economy and military is dependent upon opium. It is a fact. Workers and soldiers are made to consume large amounts of opium and kids are made addicted to it from a very adoloscence. No information is made available to outside world. It is one of the few big countries in the world which does not have a free press or TV(or even internet!).

China's model of governance is also not sustainable. Communism has proven to be a failure. Even chinese has abandoned most of its policies. Communism essentially tells about having all the power with the government. Now government is not a person. So basically it means that powers in hands of those pimps of power who has no accountability to its people. So China has no business being mad at India now.

can I have indra bagchi's address? how to reach her? where can i meet her? am very interested in meeting the author of this wonderful wonderful wonderful article and commend her in person. willing to get her all my savings. convert all my money to coins and pour over her head. the woman deserves extreme pampering ofr writing such a brilliant article...this is the news of the millenium....bravo madaa...wonder how you talk in public....

Let us not talk about Arunanchal Pradesh. We should be talking about Aksai Chin and Tibet illegally occupied by China.
Sooner or later China will strike India. After 1971 defeat Pakistan made itself equally capable of India and India can't dare to fight war with Pakistan. Same capabilities India should have achieved after defeat of 1962 war.
Rahul Gandhi was blaming Advani as weak person. What Congress has done in all these years ? Why China showing eyes to us almost every months and laying claims all over India.
China should be told in clear terms if it wages war then India will reserve right for 2nd nuclear strike wiping out entire China.

what shame. India times publishing such a ridiculous article. I hope someone from the public files a PIL against the writer. I still can't believe and digest the fact that someone can write in this manner

China is definitely stronger than India economically and militarily. But only marginally. They know very well that it is not 1962. India is not only a nuclear power, the nuclear treaty with USA has aligned it with USA and NATO. China is powerful but not foolish to think of any military adventure against India. In such circumstances, USA will clearly align with India to China's chagrin.
The fact that they have threatened India in their party journal shows that they are not serious. The dog that barks never bites.

what shame. India times publishing such a ridiculous article. I hope someone from the public files a PIL against the writer. I still can't believe and digest the fact that someone can write in this manner

Why do I see fear in this article.

China was ahead in the game since it started the economic reforms far ahead than us.

If India can put forward its view in any forum and get other countries to vote it should be seen as a clash with China. Instead China should stop bulling us.

In any case China is a rival and going to be one. We have to take help from US and EU to counter balance it is in everyone's interest.

Relationship of China with Pakistan cannot be compared with us. It would be stupid to do that.

If you are competiting than you have to be aggressive and do it on merit and by being smart.

Our internal situation for the country does not great work and that should be our consideration which trying to keep a grip on development.

After all both countries have to feed 1.1 + 1.3 billion people. It is not a small task.

Even if China is stronger militarily it cannot afford to wage a war with India. Forget it not in next 5 years.

Using our Russian relationships smartly and forging new energy + tech + military alliances to beat china in its own game can give us an edge that china will have to cross oceans to get.

Russians trust us more than China. Remember no one can trust China.

Indians and our Govt. will have to keep an eye on Chinese influence on our political process and maoist movement.
I am still surprised why India is quiet on that.

We are dump in certain ways and cannot afford to do that on critical aspects.

China should be taught a lesson. A guerrilla movement in Tibet will teach them a thing or two.

Alec Smart said: "China will adhere to human rights? Don't Tibet on it."

China was a bully, it is a bully and it will remain a bully.
A bully needs to be confronted head-on! India should exploit to the hilt China's weaknesses like Tibet: it should should aggressively support Tibetan cause.
India is 100 times superior to China, because:
1) China is a brutal dictatorship ( Remember Tianmen Sqr brutalities ) while India is a vibrant democracy.
2) English language, independence of judiciary give India unmatched advantage vis-a-vis China.
3) Liberty is what every Chinese is missing so badly: one day they are bound to throw off the brutal Communist dictatorship! On the other hand, we in India relish all kind of liberty & freedom.
4) Indians are far superior to Chinese intellectuially: Chinese are like ants--they can mass-produce rubbish at a damn cheap price & dump them in other countries. Other countries are now slowly but surely realising this. This is going to surely blunt their manufacturing advantage very soon.
Nuclear-armed India is more than a match for China militarily. Indian Air Force is far superior to its Chinese counterpart. It is not 1962, it is 2009--Indian military might & economic muscles are far srengthened.
Therfore, India should confront the Chinese wherever an opportunity arose internationally: ehrther it is in the economic field or diplomatic front.

Also, we have an enemy within who supports China silently. They will not raise their voice against China what ever happens. The Communist block who gets aid from their elder brother.

currently china is drunk in power.Which they feel the whole world has given to them.Of course the china has larger military,higher foreign reserves (than any country in this world),and they lend money to US(to recover from economic crisis) which boasts itself as superpower.So it leads them to think that they now control the world affairs like never before. But I still don't understand why china is miffed .ADB gave INDIA the loan so that some construction work can be carried out in so called disputed territory.So what point china have they don't want any development to take place they don't want the need of the people living in arunachal to be fulfilled, to have better facilities or what ? china opposed the motion simply to over boast the fact that they are the boss.But they tasted defeat in opposing the motion passed so that's what makes them miffed.So my whole point is that china must understand that she may be better economy or better military might but she doesn't control the whole world.so china must come out if this mirage as soon as possible.For better development of south asia not just simply china.And they must understand the fact moving military to border is routine exercises of any country's military not just threat.it becomes threat only when country is at war.we are not in war infact we are in competition(healthy one) with china.but some of people in china think otherwise they think it's pseudo war against them. Come on china play with some respect, integrity in this game or so called competition. Play fair.you may be the paper tigers now but never underestimate your competition keep in mind that.There are always dark horses in any race :)

Hi,
Even though article started with Chinese loss, but my perception says it started advicing india on its approach.
" It should also be asking itself why it hasn’t forged the stable and friendly relationship with China that China enjoys with many of India's neighbors, like Pakistan, Nepal and Sri Lanka"
Above statement is ridiculous and even comman man can understand the shrewd plan of China against India. If that is not clear to Author, advice to get the ground facts about the neigbhouring countries ties with China.
Even though we are proud of Peninsula effect, that poses major threat from China.
Pls be aware and propose constructive plans.

Indians are living in a world of illusion thinking that Pakistan is our main 'enemy'. Pakistan is only an irritant. Even our war-movies are so Pakistan centric. We have to learn to deal with China and ignore Pakistan. China today is the only country in the UN Security Council, that does not want India to be permanent member.

THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF INDIA - CPM IS ALSO SUPPORTING CHINA IN THEIR BID TO DENY INDIA ADB FUNDING. THIS REFLECTS THE TRUE COLOUR OF THE COMMUNIST WHO HAVE BACK STABBED GANDHIJI IN HIS FIGHT AGAINST THE BRITISH. AT THAT TIME THE COMMUNIST SUPPORTED THE BRITISH AND WAS AGAINST GANDHIJI.

This article gives an insight view on happenings to a matter that all knows,but no one is exposed to details how it is being handled,won or lost.Yes,India is behind China in many areas.Yes,India is nowhere close to match Chinese growth rates in many sectors.Bot how does it mean we just sit back and watch when China stakes claim on Indian land area?Even an ant bites back when hit.China might be Goliath here,but India by no means is David.
So,it is simple,we fight on to thrive and survive.

It is a tragedy that the great and long histories of these two nations have come to such an impasse because of certain inimical interests arising out of colonial events and post-colonial developments. This is an uninformative article that ignores the two countries' contributions to each other's culture and history. It also does not provide any inkling of the shameful machinations of the British and Russian imperialists that contributed to the souring of relations between China and India. In my view, this is a simple news item, not a saga of triumphs and defeats.

Many of the posts gloat about India's democracy and the existence of independent judiciary and press. However, human rights and individual freedom for the privileged lose their meaning when for the vast majority basic needs are not met such as food, shelter, sanitation, literacy and healthcare; and gender, caste, religious and ethnic disparities remain rampant as is the case in India. This is in no way meant to undermine the shame of a lack of freedom of expression or media that exists in China.

The whole argument for ADB aid could be framed in ways other than what is termed as a 'diplomatic coup'. If this development aid is indeed going to benefit the people of that region, Mukherjee should be able to make that case as a seasoned diplomat and politician to China of the common interest in serving the people there. I sincerely hope that we never repeat the folly of Krishna Menon which was humiliating to digest as a little boy in India for me and I am sure for many other Indians despite who the provocateur might have been.

If China fails to understand why it does not enjoy the same level of friendship what it has with Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal and other south asian countries then it is ironical. China needs to think about the these top reasons:-
1) China's illegal occupation of many thousand hectares of Indian territories including the highly symbolical Kailash mountain, 2) China's meddling around other Indian borders like Sikkim and Arunachal, 3) China's record in Tibet, 4) China's overt and covert support to Maoist un-ethical operations in Nepal, 5) China's continued military and nuclear support to Pakistan just to keep India occupied on that front, so as to have Pakistan as a counter-threat, 6) Chinese policy on Myanmar etc. This list can go on. In fact for ages it has been China's numero uno foreign policy for many years now to keep India in check. The very reason that chinese government is speaking out loud now is this only.

China's speaking about it's growth and governance is also questionable. China's model of development is not sustainable. China has an advantage only in production sector and it has no expertise in services sector. Chinese advantage in production also is largely driven by unethical reasons. In fact the whole chinese economy and military is dependent upon opium. It is a fact. Workers and soldiers are made to consume large amounts of opium and kids are made addicted to it from adoloscence. No information is made available to outside world. It is one of the few big countries in the world which does not have a free press or TV(or even internet!).
China's model of governance is also not sustainable. Communism has proven to be a failure. Even chinese has abandoned most of its policies. Communism essentially tells about having all the power with the government. Now government is not a person. So basically it means that power in hands of those pimps of power who has no accountability to its people.
So China has no business being mad at India now. Wake up Dragon!!

quote:

"India's current course can only lead to a rivalry between the two countries. India needs to consider whether or not it can afford the consequences of a potential confrontation with China. It should also be asking itself why it hasn’t forged the stable and friendly relationship with China that China enjoys with many of India's neighbors, like Pakistan, Nepal and Sri Lanka."

Huh! China is friendly with Pakistan, Nepal and Sri Lanka, because it is unfriendly with India, and _does_ see India as a threat (probably not in the Military sense, not as yet!).

Also, I don't the point of this article in quoting full paras from Global-Times, without supporting argument. This article only seems to portray that India needs to be a chicken forever. Complete bullcrap.

This seems to be a copy paste article from Chinas daily published on net. I have read it few days ago. Either Ms.Indrani doesnt want to do her homework and independent thinking and analysis before writing articles or she is a hard core communist whose world view is china centric!
This article only tries to reinstate the China Fear indian minds of 1960s. Please dont do this.. We Indians now dont see china as a Threat! china is our competitor just that.. and Indians are really superior. Do you doubt it?

Ask, Indian defence factory what they are producing just junk junk and junk. The ISRO, DRDO, etc are shame on Indian economy and defence. They do not produce any thing of worth. The same PSLV is used again and again with out any chages. Ask Madhavan Nair, he will tell. SO once we have good defence factory then we can move very fast then we will not wory abouct chines croches.

Why did you choose the word "mad" to describe china's feelings? wake up kiddo!

The real question is not how many nukes, submarines a country has but how the people of the country live in peace excercising basic human rights full filling the inner innate positive nature. In china - people have no freedom of speech, no political freedom of choice, no economic freedoms like property rights, no freedom of movement for a worker to move from one work zone to other. People live in strict vigilance by bloody communist party. What is the use of the so called chinese growth. By the by do you know the meaning of 'chinese statistics'. It is a nation of prisoners. Once the communist lid is blasted, it shatters like old USSR. Time is not far away for this to happen. It is in built in its system. We need not fight it. Let India concentrate on its own developement in democratic way.

So what China means in simple words is " DONT HAVE YOUR ARMED FORCES, AIRCRAFTS IN THE NORTH EAST,THAT IS OUR SPHERE OF INTEREST".

Well, the Chinese Han must be shown the DOOR.

As simple as that.

It is a tragedy that the great and long histories of these two nations have come to such an impasse because of certain inimical interests arising out of colonial events and post-colonial developments. This is an uninformative article that ignores the two countries' contributions to each other's culture and history. It also does not provide any inkling of the shameful machinations of the British and Russian imperialists that contributed to the souring of relations between China and India. In my view, this is a simple news item, not a saga of triumphs and defeats.

Many of the posts gloat about India's democracy and the existence of independent judiciary and press. However, human rights and individual freedom for the privileged lose their meaning when for the vast majority basic needs are not met such as food, shelter, sanitation, literacy and healthcare; and gender, caste, religious and ethnic disparities remain rampant as is the case in India. This is in no way meant to undermine the shame of a lack of freedom of expression or media that exists in China.

The whole argument for ADB aid could be framed in ways other than what is termed as a 'diplomatic coup'. If this development aid is indeed going to benefit the people of that region, Mukherjee should be able to make that case as a seasoned diplomat and politician to China of the common interest in serving the people there. I sincerely hope that we never repeat the folly of Krishna Menon which was humiliating to digest as a little boy in India for me and I am sure for many other Indians despite who the provocateur might have been.

china is 100 times stronger than india.we should realise the true that china has made a storng,stable economy as well as army in their country not like us(even a prime minister & minister get bribe when buying weapons for our country).america already terrified by china's growth better we build a good relations with china to save ourself.because if china want to conqueor india its very simple for them we are sorruonded by china supporters no country can help us(dont think america or russia come & help us).there is no such thing we have good quality products in the world market can beat china's quality(now a days china start to make really quality things which are getting more in aseian countryies like singapore ,malaysia,korea,taiwan).instead of america better we build a good relationship with china.its good for our safety,economy,stability

All of India's neighbours are almost like this .

Not only China but also sourrounded by difficult people and country

Its time India should focus on Chinese rise, their diplomacy, domination and military strength in the Asian Continent. While Corrupt Indian public services and Indian politicians in general were busy accumulating money, plundering, plunging, building India with substandard growth and Infrastructure. Our neighbor China, which has the major part of its land in the form of Ice desert, was busy plugging away all the loopholes to emerge as an Asian super power.

Their string of pearls diplomacy and their quest for power to rule the pacific and Indian Ocean has even made America to consider China as their No.1 threat in near future. Its time India ponders on few points and put them in action.

1. North East should be given the highest priority in terms of development of infrastructure without accompanying with the dirty politics existing in other states and regions.

2. Increased GDP spending on the services sector. Enhanced recruitment of armed forces personnel keeping the Chinese and Pakistani threats.

3. Enhanced surveillance measures that include having many more electronic eyes in space.

4. Launch diplomatic offensive to counter string of pearls diplomacy.

5. Indigenization of defense forces. More spending should be done to create industries and recruit talent in the defense research and development.

We never know when other countries might back off at crucial moments where cooperation is most essential.

6. Educate the general Indian public about the external threats being faced and their implications.

7. Come off the policy off minimum deterrents, as this will not help us protect our country from any external aggression.

Current political class should not commit the same mistake as that of our predecessors; a delay and casual attitude could cost Indian public a lot as has happened in the previous wars. This time it could be very serious with India thrown into dark ages.

Beware!! Better to be safe than sorry.

China is THE biggest threat to India? as a chinese guy, i am really sorry that find that's indian people idea. i have to frankly to tell you that in china, only very very few people think india is chinese threat, i also have to tell you that maybe 70% chinese people look india as friendly country due to the chinese gov media propagandize. even in chinese history textbook,about the india also is praise.that is true!! nobody look india as threat ,but if india media continue to propagandize that china is india threat and deface china. the most stupid guy thould know what should happen.

Please install Raj Thakrey as Army Chief and he will sort out Chinkis within a fraction of second.His MNS Goondas are far more potent than their Chinkis counterpart.Mayawati should become the Air Chief Marshal who can taken them on right on the spot.Lalu can help Raj Thakrey with his Baccha Party if there will be a war.

Hope for the best- prepare for the first and play smart!!

And now my comments.
Let the border between India and China whereever there is eye ball to eye ball contact, sophisticated and backed up military presence and preparation should be there. We should be ready to ruthlessly defend our land, at times even offensively. And the negotiation outcome should be creation of scores of football grounds and the likes in the "no-mans lands" enabling defence personnels of both the countries to engage each other in the sports and cultural field; gradully, if the Chinese wants it so, the border fighting fortifications and infrastructure can be pulled down by 20-km on either side, as per the Chow formula!

Mohanan
Bharuch
heavil

Talk softly but carry a big stick said the American President Roosevelt. India too needs to be friendly & polite with neighbours. It needs to deal with all of them with empathy and understanding of their problems. However to do this India needs to be united, all colours , all religions, all people and that is the problem. Work on this and all problems will be minor!

To ANNA:
Could you please elaborate on your comments?

China is always known enemy to us outside our country , but we have fox inside our country who dose corruption,exploit public wealth, due to that we are falling behind all areas of development compared to china expect IT.

Before saying china as enemy , clean up the fox inside the country. :)

An editorial article in the Chinese newspaper a few days back tried to show the superiority of China in many areas and show India in a Inferior position. They also directly attacked India through the usage of very Harsh words. This is a very Shameful act on part of china and shows the lowest level they can go to vent out their frustration against a great country like India.
It is also true that we really lack on some fronts against china like Human Development Index, Literacy, the number of poor in our country(70% of our population lives on less than $2 a Day) and the biggest of them all the prevailing bureaucracy and Corruption in Procuring Advanced defense Items like Artillery's, Next generation Multirole Fighter Aircraft's, Etc. That article in the Chinese newspaper should be taken as an Insult to our country and so our Politicians and the Cabinet Leaders should take a note of this and try to end the circle of Corruption and Differences amongst each other and show to the world and most importantly China that we are made up of a Much Superior Society than anybody else on this Planet.

Hi, the language you use ('mad', 'hopping mad') reduces these very serious relations between nation states to childish playground concerns. Its perhaps an angle that gets readers, but is it an honest or constructive one?

As a foreigner living in India, I see your country being too much defined in your own media as a small child squabbling with others. Sometimes India wins, and ooh that bad other country (pakistan etc) is hopping mad. Sometimes India loses, but it was only because that other country was 'ooh, hopping BAD'

Perhaps India should not be defined so much as a nation in opposition to and in competition with its neighbours.

Rightly said that as of now, India is not strong comparable to China. But India is growing at very rapid rate.... far more than China. China has good reltions with other neighbors coz China doesnt feel any threat frm them. India, being storng enough and growing swiftly, definitely will pose a threat to them.

I worry when i read these posts. I worry that many of youwant to fight and 'win' - and not live in peace with your neighbours.

You are not alone. Many people from many countries are like this. But hopefully your attitudes will not prevail.

Peace out and would gandhi write things like 'Chinese have given us a great insult'?

india should seek for mutaul respect with china. and if india is to command respect on world stage, it should expand its economic activity internationally. why is india not marketting its products in africa, where as china is investing heavily throghout latin america and africa thus creating a market for its produce.
india should also invest in its infrastructure and bring it to european level, at the moment most of india is dirty and dingy . china may very well be a dictatorship but internatinally it commands respect, its cities have a clean image. westerners love doing business there.
the sooner india gets a seat on permanent security council the better it will be for, because this is aplace where a country is taken seriously. it is very dissapionting that the world's largest democracy is left out at such an important institution. the time has come for india to walk out of the U.N if it does not get a permanent seat.
do not forget one can only negociate from a strong standpiont not from a weak one.
china is ab bully and remain so for a long time to come.
wake up india, make the world respect you.
jai hind
from rajam- a mauritian living in london.

I don't understand why some westerners should take pleasure in writing about India being more backward than China. China's development didn't come on their own. Richard Nixon exported millions of American manufacturing jobs to China to woo them away from Russia. Nobody hypocritically raised any voice BECAUSE MAJORITY WHO LOST THOSE JOBS THEN WERE AFRICAN AMERICANS. So much for racial blindness!

We Indians don't mind being more backward than China because we don't have anything to hide like Chinese by allowing foreigners to visit only the developed areas!

We don't enforce laws on our people through the barrel of guns. I have no respect for whiteskinned hypocrites who say they are anticommunists and then impoverish themselves by enriching communists.

And we are not in the sorry state of asking another country to buy our treasuries for daily subsistence of our government or devalue its currency. And to my fellow countrymen, if you don't know how to answer arrogant westerners with true facts please don't make unnecessary thumping of the chests!

I have no respect for my own Indians who feel inferiority complex on seeing a white man or don't speak up when he tells rubbish.

No need to despise anything Indian just because you feel insecure or you live abroad. This is a country that has been independent only 60 years not 300 or 500 years.

Rightly said that as of now, India is not strong comparable to China. But India is growing at very rapid rate.... far more than China. China has good reltions with other neighbors coz China doesnt feel any threat frm them. India, being storng enough and growing swiftly, definitely will pose a threat to them.

China is strong, ambitious ,and politically strong country and working on very well planned agenda to make china strong. its shame for india and need to get armed , other wise winners writes history and looser are always bad in story , so only india will be responsible for indias defeat ,,,,

While China could be at fault regarding our poor relationship, that is no excuse for our own terrible shortcomings.
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For example, Nepal is a predominantly Hindu country, extremely close to India in culture. Yet, we lost the opportunity to forge close ties with them, by acting like their all-knowing "big brother" whom they must always obey, and taking them for granted. Today there is a strong anti-India feeling in Nepal, and they are getting closer to China and against India.
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Take Bangladesh. We liberated them in 1971 from genocide by West Pakistan, after they had lost hundreds of thousands of their people to rape and murder by the Pakistani army. And then, what did we do? We expected them to be grateful, obedient and subservient to us. We treated them as inferior, we constantly reminded them of how we liberated them and emotionally blackmailed them with ingratitude, we never showed them the respect that any country is due. We lost the opportunity to help them reshape their country. Today they are in a mess. India is high on their list of enemies and is considered the reason for their problems, and large numbers of hostile Bangladeshis are infiltrating into India to change our political culture.
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We couldn't even foster friendship with two countries that had great reasons for being our friends. What chance do we have with China?
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Our biggest problem is lack of consistency in government policy. With our so-called democracy, every new government says and does different things and undoes the work of previous governments. What credibility do we have with any country? Who can rely on long term friendships with us? China can tell them, "those guys will come and go, but we are here for ever". Whom would YOU prefer in such a situation?
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We are proud of a "democracy" with desha-drohis and criminals as our leaders. Just contrast this with China's leaders who are determined to take their country to great heights.
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Learn the lesson: select your leaders wisely.

a countries outlook can be understood from the products that originate from it.. "made in china" - cheap, but never lasts

congrats indraniji. very nice article. i hve been notiecing china's behaviour to india. china dont want india to became higher position than them. china is the only one voted against india in UN in order to get permenent membership for long time.any way when we compare india and china china is big zero even if they pretend they hve eveything. last time they tried to poke india with their face medicine in the label of made in indis. but world knows who is behind it. regarding to take decition to beef up our army in our own boarder we dont want any body's suggetions.but in india still hve some china supporters. china is the one who providing weapons to mavoist terroristst. china is nothing when comparing to india. jai hind

India and China are friends, this is a small accident, we can overcome it, China is no threat to India, India is not threat India, China want to solve the border issues through friendly way.

to mr ramesh,
As u mentioned about internel fox, that is corect in a certain level. but "if u hve any problems or problem maker in ur home. will u b ready to let ur neighbour to commend anything about ur famly.????? CHINA IS OFCOURSE JEOLOUS TO HINDHUSTAN. AND OFCOURSE THEY R OUR ENEMIES. JAI HINDH

It is nothing but "sheer hatred" against India which the secular and communist parivar in this country are proud of. This is the only country in the world who are proud of hatred by Chinese and neighbouring countries. See OIC who termed the Mumbai violence as "mere event'. Why not we too treat the Gujarath killings too as 'mere events"?

Rightly said that as of now, India is not strong comparable to China. But India is growing at very rapid rate.... far more than China. China has good reltions with other neighbors coz China doesnt feel any threat frm them. India, being storng enough and growing swiftly, definitely will pose a threat to them.

China's envoy and worries shows India's increasing strength and power. And world knows it very well.

Jai Hind.

Thank god that these so called left wing CPM politicos are thrown out this time from the national political scene. These are the biggest threat for India supported by China.

how did anyone get paid to regurgitate and quote verbatim an editorial in a chinese newspaper without any analysis whatsoever?

The racism on here is despicable. I'm Chinese and i'm highly offended by some of the comments on here. Think about it guys, you're not immune to racist taunts yourselves so don't do that to others.

damo says:
June 19, 2009 at 09:49 AM IST

hi dude
u just open ur eyes and look around if u r an indian. in which sense u told china is 100 time stronger than india. hve u even been in china. when u see china from out side of china . ur openion is corect. but when u enter in to interner part ur openion is foolish, silly and childish. in our country an raiway employ or school teacher can live his life in a gud way. i mean standerd of living. do u know how much they r getting in china ?????? do u thing a teacher and railway emplay can live his life in rich positon in china. they all used to take some part time job as well. atleast try to read even if u did not get a chance to see china. regarding producton. what gud quality u can say in less cost product. since man power is cheap in china all companies having production unit. which produsing in the qualich given by companies. that is not an advantage of chinaa.

chinks will never get Arunachal Pradesh

Indrani Bagchi are you Indian or Chinese ? Being a professional is an infinitesimal and unimportant thing compared to Nations pride. You let us down.

Folks , economically & militarily China is farahead ( 20+ years ).What India / Indians need is to talk less and do more that includes publishing news on military modernization our borders with China, why do all details ( in interest of national security) on defense preparedness be published often .This includes our politicians too -focus more on true internal development,minimise the corruption in almost all sections of the government and build the true, great India silently .Political parties like communists should be thrown out wherever they are ruling by people as their symapthies are elsewhere ; they have miserably failed in uplifting the aam adami in states they rule ( corruption wise they are no different than other parties !).

I am a Chinese. Although I wish India and China could co-exist peacefully forever, as these two countries are so huge and so populated and any long-lasting hostility towards and conflicts between each other can only spell enormous loss of good fortunes and opportunities that may arise from them being friends or even brothers like they once were and may have greatly benefited both peoples. I wish these two countries could somehow find a way to settle once for all all their disagreements through wisdom. However, as a long time observer of the development of the relationship between these two countries, I can only admit I am more and more pessimistic about realization of such a scenario as time goes by. Just look at all these hysteria-like people who posted here, I can only draw a conclusion that India wants a war against China and you guys just want revenge no matter what. The 1962 border conflict was an event that happened more than four decades ago and lasted merely several weeks, why such a short time? China declared cease-fire one-sidedly and India tacitly approved the outcome. You would all think China was then scared of a lasting confilict with India that would eventually backfire? That's correct just partly. No country wants war for it can only bring desasters. When it comes to protecting its territory, China is scared of nobody. Ask Americans, former Sovit Union people. That's just not the case. Go check out all written materials by authors worldwide on this event and you will see the whole picture. In the meantime British colonists once forcefully conquered Indian sub-continent for over 200 years during which they repeatedly jailed, killed, looted and slaved people living on this land for thousands of years and when they finally ceded the land to them, they allowed this continent to be splited into two nations. The great Winston Churchill never hided his inmost disgust at your national hero Mahandas Gandhi. So you guys don't resent Bitish one bit.

I would say one thing...... We should do what is in our national interest and ask China to go and take a walk.

After reading what Chinese "think", it seems more like a death threat to India. Well agreed that China is a bigger dog, but.. in a fight the size of the dog doesn't matter. What matters is size of the fight in the Dog. China should also know that we are a stronger nation now and can cause a very heavy damage in case of a conflict. From their statements it seems they are the ones who are more afraid of our growing capabilities. These statements reflect the typical chinese mentality of superiority that they think will last forever. Sooner and much sooner than they think , we will catch up. No matter how much money they might give to Pakistan, we will be one step ahead. And we will catch up with China. Well honestly (out of context) but I have given up having chinese food, products as mark of protest against the chinese-made-labelled-India fake drugs. This goes to show that the enemy is still looking for an opportunity. We should rather be prepared you know. They have this history of back stabbing, and all that. They cannot be trusted.

I doubt anybody here knows about the so-called "Amristsar Massacre", the creator of which was hailed as a martyr back in Great Britain. Now you guys want a war against your neighboring huge country China at whatever cost, becasue it defeated India in a servral week long border conflict! And you want to contain China! How pathetic could that be to even think about it. The big Uncle Sam tried hard to contain China in the 50s, 60s, then what? The former Sovit Union threatened to nuclear bomb China too and once had more than one million millity force stationed along its border with China. So what? Now China, with its ever stongest strength and influence, is scared of being contained by India? Not gonna happen. Folks, be realistic, and be wise. Things don't have to be like desperation or war or something like that. It's to the utmost benefits of both counties if they settle problems with sincerity and open-mindedness. But if India really wants to enforce its claims through its military might, unfortunately, it will sooner than later find out it will gain far less than it will lose. That's just not a wise move. Peace.

China is like CANCER spreading across the globe with it's destructive nature and mentality. This not only includes territorial hunger, but polluting global market and above all nature with all filthiest products they can manufacture. Every nation should condemn any kind of import from China. The only way to crush china would be through use of ARMED FORCES for which we all Indians should contribute to the development of our forces in whatever way we can.

It is a rule that when vying for limited, finite resources, it is rather silly to expect any meaningful cooperation between rivals.

Cooperation succeeds only when the resources are vast and the participants benefit from joining together.

In China's case, the country has been allowed to become obscenely overpopulated. The Chinese compete heavily even with each other for the limited food and resources available within the country. It is logical for them to eye the valuable plentiful resources available in the neighboring countries, since their own resources are not able to sustain their over-bloated populace.

Since Bangladesh is weaker than India, it tries to get rid of the excess population it cannot support, by stealthily smuggling it to India. China with its perceived military superiority need not be sneaky. They will stake a claim on some pretext and just take what they need. War requires few excuses.

War is inevitable. We have already seen how Hindi-chini bhai bhai approach of Nehru worked for us before. Things are worse now for china in terms of population.

And by same logic, if they win the war, they won't share their winnings with the locals. We will be again a colony, used as mere slave labour, all of us a second-class citizen in our own country.

Cooperation with China is not an option here. Surrendering even an inch of our land is not an option. They didn't stop with Tibet. They will not stop with any other piece of land. They have no choice, thanks to their over-population. We must defend what is ours against this over-populated, all-consuming, wasteful, covetous, greedy beast of a nation called China.

A rival competitor can never be a friend. He will only use your trust to trip you, in order to win.

they can take a hike, north east is indian territory - we can have any sort of economic/ military development to secure our national interests. I will also add this, as Indians we need to show more empathy and work towards bringing the NE region into mainstream Indian thinking. Else, we have no hope

india is a better off country than china in all respects....indians do not consider what china says.....we rock!!!
JAI HIND !!!

This is a slavish mentality to abuse China. Those who could not create a national party and a common Pizza hut worker from Italy is the unchallenged national leader! Mrs. Sonia Gandhi is an uncrowned queen of India and are happy for the unprecedented history of more than 1300 years of slavery; are fellow secular Indians very much pleased to be governed by dynastic family rulers and cannot govern themselves?

while I kind of agree with Author on all accounts.I believe its paramount that we shud pull up our socks and be ready for anything. On one aspect it's not advisable to head into astraight confrontation with China but can't afford to be shobby on the matters concerning our illustrious neighbour too. We have to hit a middle ground.Especially China is trying their level best to increase their influence on our less fortunate neighbours such as Nepal and Srilanka, which we can't afford mostly because of it's geographical prominence with the indian subcontinent.Another factor we have to watch out for is that the kind of support the radicals of Chinese government is extending towards radical islams in Pakistan. Either way it's bad for us.For the large peace loving ppl of India this is really a scary proposition.Out of control Pakistan on one side and too much controlled China on the other.Isin't a bit more than what the world's largest democracy can chew.Time will sure have a say on that.

Why a common Indian is irritated by deceptive Chinese behavior? (Part3)

(6) China has used its all cylinder in recent year to stop emergence of Stronger India at international level. Although given assurance by Chinese political leaders, china has unsuccessfully tried to block
NSG wavier of nuclear deal for India and burnt it face. Again shown it ugly desire to restrict growth of India by unsuccessful trying to block ADB loans. Also opposed many times, for a sanction against Pakistan based terrorist organization directed at India, ultimately faced same failure at global forum.

(7) Recently the state sponsored Chinese company caught by Nigerian Government for sending fake drug of Million dollars in disguise of made in India brand. China is trying best to ignite an anti India passion among leader and people of Pakistan, Nepal, Srilanka, Bangladesh and only aim of China is to restrict growth of India, to stop emergence of India as a world leader.

Bottom line: Neither the deceptive Chinese or No country can stop Emergence of a stronger India in world scenario

The author has very balanced view about the situation. She wants to be in good books of both the sides. Because journelists have to country, no relgion, no caste! May be only true for India journelists.
Anyway, the paragraphs from the write-up:
["Any aggressive moves will certainly not aid the development of good relations with China. India should examine its attitude and preconceptions; it will need to adjust if it hopes to cooperate with China and achieve a mutually beneficial outcome."]
Only tells that she is suggesting the soft approach towards China, which may be true if I see the problem from her eyes. But, as far as a true Indian in concern we should not leave this problem to dialogues only, let create infrastructures in these areas in the form of rails, roads, bridges, fencing etc. Do not leave any thing to chance. China is progressing in this area and will be a serious threat than Pakistan, Nepal and SL.

Dear Joe@from China

Few words. Nanking. Tiananmen square.

The Chinese firewall has probably either blocked your capacity to even open the page, or else you have run away from your PC scared for your life, should the Chinese government catch you reading this stuff.

Please feel free to tell us how superior and "free" China is.

As for facts, what Japanese did in Nanking is well known fact. for those who don't know, during the World war ii, the Japanese defeated the chinese and captured the capital of china of that time, the city called Nanking. Only reason China was saved was because of America defeating Japan.

In just 6 weeks, Japanese did much worse to the China's capital than british did in 200 years in India.

As for Tibet, chinese were kicked out of it by the British army nearly 200 years ago. Since the Chinese were scared of the superior British navy, they chose to sit quietly for next 200 years, and only managed to stake claim over tibet when it came under the possession of then much-weaker nascent, Indian army.

china was scared to death of the Japanese during Nanking, and scared hopelessly of the British, when the british captured tibet. they let tibet stay with British, because they knew what would happen to China if it tried to fight the British. So much for China defending its territories and so much for your mocking India's being ruled by British.

British left China alone, solely for the reason that it had nothing of value for the British. They found Tibet of strategic value and took that from China.

Correct me, if any of these facts is wrong or distorted.

An over-populated country like China *has* to steal away land from other countries, just to feed its billions. Of course, it can become no one's friend.

after all india was run as a totalitarian communist state up to 1992. the only fountain head of all ideas was the nehru gandhi family and no one had any guts or(.....) to counter or question the decisions made by the family. hence genuine original thinking was missing. in the smokescreen banner of 'democracy', every good idea has been shot down and every scandal has been swept under the carpet. so what was left was, like our runners in the oplympic atheletic competion, coming about 200 metres behind the entire field in an 800 metres race. so let us suffer, and let us remain 'also rans'.

A very stupid artical

Why a common Indian is irritated by deceptive Chinese behavior? (Part1)

(1) India was the first and foremost country in backing China for Permanent seat in Security Council around 1950. Nevertheless, since then China has used all occasion in UN Security Council to backstab India, wherever possible and whenever possible. Height of the typical Chinese betrayal and deceptiveness.

(2) India has never supported the Independence of Tibetan people against Chinese Occupation. But at same time, Tibet has never been a part of China in any kind of political history rather than Both China and Tibet were occupied by Mongol Kings in history and ruled for some period, which forms the base of Chinese claim over Tibet. If this Kind political logic is to followed, then more than half of country in
world will be soaked in unending warfare as they are also ruled by some other Rulers in distant past along with some of their neighboring countries. Rather for strong historical link, highest degree of cultural affinity and close spiritual contact between people of Tibet and India, Tibet should have joined Indian Union as a state.

(3) India has never supported the protection of legitimate rights Taiwan people against Chinese hegemony. Yet there are many reasons to do so. China in all front abetting Pakistan sponsored terrorism including military equipments to support the terrorists (recently conclude National security meeting reveal that a large amount of weapons used by Pakistan terrorist are bought from china). Even at UN Security Council China supported dreaded terrorist organizations of Pakistan many times to prevent sanction against them but eventually failed to do so because of strong global reaction to sponsors of terrorism.

The list of Chinese hostility, its evil doing and evil desire towards India is unending.

Whatever said and done , India should have a very prudent approach vis a vis China. As rightly pointed out by author, India can't afford to compete with China in many areas like warfare/manufacturing/global domination etc. But what India can surely do is to march ahead in the areas of importance to India and its populace,without actually bothering about China. Further why doesnt Indian intelligence agencies play a covert game in China's restive regions? I see Pakistani problem not being a problem/threat to India, but China is a real great threat which must be looked into/contained on an urgent basis.

You have to remember that the US and it's allies blocked India's progress by putting unfair sanctions against it for the last 30 years or more, and in that time aided and abetted China, Pakistan and others in the circle or enemies around India during that time. The US had only just realised India's potential, and now probably regrets that it was backing the wrong horse all this time. China remains India's biggest threat and is a country that can never be trusted (remember 'Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai' and it's consequences).

Why a common Indian is irritated by deceptive Chinese behavior? (Part2)

(4) Pakistan is breakaway part of India, whatever reason may be. Nevertheless, no one can say that both people of India and Pakistan will never join to form one country as they were for thousands of years. However, from 1965 China supports consistently terrorism of Pakistan directed at India, igniting anti India passion among political leaders of Pakistan, poisoning their minds against India and providing nuclear and missile technologies to Pakistan to restrict India. Only strategic aim of China is to weaken the rising power called India and keep it entangled with regional problem like Kashmir for long time to come

(5) Whole world knows China has forcefully occupied a part of Kashmir since 1962. But India never send a single soldier to occupy an INCH of Chinese territory, not now, not before, nor in 2000 years of well documented history of bilateral relation between China-India. Chinese claim over Arunachal Pradesh is a tailor made one to hide its forcefully occupation of Kashmir and to extract some concession from India some Border talk.

However, China will never succeed in this evil design.

With the communist state that it is, we will never come to know the exact power of China. This is a country which has kept it's currency stable for years so as to out do Japan on exports, no one actually knows how powerful or how hollow China is. The povery levels in China match that of India's. Months before the Beijing Olympics slums were removed so as to present a very "Developing" picture to the world. Whatever they project is taken as truth, but in reality there is no one to assess.
Coming to population control, it boasts of having done a great job with it's 1 child policy, but the very same policy will come back haunting in a few years. Development cannot be sustained without skilled workforce and the scale at which it wants to grow will be difficult to maintain with an ageing population.
India doen't hide anything, with the freedom of press that we have, it will work in our favour with governments getting elected on development issues.
A hard working nation, coupled with it's intelligence will definitely be a force to reckon with in future.

When you go to china ,you will find things different as what you have been expecting .

India kept on harping on India chini bhai-bhai.But, China exploited situation in India in many ways. It also took advantage of the indo pak relationship. It is also trying to do the same with other neighbours. It was the then defence minister, Mr George Fernades first openly said that India's enemy is China and not Pakistan. I would like to know why India should fear of China? Having such a big defence budget, India should spend all budget allocation to strengthen in military forces. Unless India shows it strength, the China will not listen to it. the recent episode of Made in India medicine exported by China to Nigeria is one of the many trick China plays. It is definitely happening with the Chinese government support. China flexes it muscle wherever possible. Only because of Greoge Bush interference China agreed for nuclear agreement. I feel India should also talk in same term with China. But, it should not let go its good old neighbours namely Nepal, Bangladesh and Srilanka.

I just believe on an old saying "dogs that bark don't bite" and its perfect for china. India has been quiet in words and aggressive in action and that's making them mad and i think its the best way as china is a bubble that will burst soon , a country where reporters are shot for writing anything about government and has no basic human rights of freedom , how can u compare a country like this with India. They can say what ever they can but India should step up as people compare us with them and say India is not economically strong like china but its because India publishes true status abuts its economy and poverty not like china who has no freedom for reporters and reports what governments wants them too report because for china seeing is believing and that's kind off true they make u see things but no one is allowed to troubles part of china because the people are pushed there to hide the reality. China is country which is growing old and will soon run out of juice and India has youth bigger than the population of usa so i think we will do fine in future. And last for the international influence of china hard to see it as no one listen to them except pakistan one can say.And living abroad studying with chineses i have found one thing about them they are honest until there is some profit to them and will do anything for there profit even cheat other chinese. So i think it would be fine and will have it glory days back with full respect from the world not like how people think of china.

Just dont understand this >>> "an unstable domestic situation". Considering what's happening in Tibet and the status of Democracy, China itself is doubly as unstable as India is >>> It is only just waiting to explode, Add to that the Xinjiang Problem. Hope the explosion takes place early, the Chinese have their feet in the air already, they confront anything and everything that's against their wishes.

Chinese People did not vote for their goverment. It is their communist dictators who make these policies. It is these same dictators who have also made every country around them suffer..south korea, tiawan, myanmar, vietnam, tibet and india.

CHINA, When you hear name of this country, following things comes to mind
1. All Fake products all over world.
2. Cheap and no quality products.
3. Worse Political System.
4. Cheat (What they did in 1962).
5. Selfish.
6. Bad Eye on neighbours.
7. Threat to world.

if most of the people agree with what i mention above, then its a matter of serious concern for India.India can not afford the same mistake of 1962. Every Indian hate to fell that They have captured a big part of India and till now, any other country never objected against it.
India should be politically stable. Thats a duty of every India national and Govt should move faster than China in over powering China. So as to take our home land back from China.
I believe in 30-40 years, China will be behind India.
Deploying Sukhoi Aircrafts near China was a very good move by looking at the threat China posseses to India. Its not proactive, it safety.
Well China be aware , we are coming to get back our land !!
Jai Hind

China might have got the attention, but India has got international respect, because of its democratic process and freedom of press, which does not exist in China.Arunachal Pradesh is part of India and any claim by any country can not be accepted, let them be a Global power or bamboo power if China gets irritated, we cant help it.By improving economically we can surpass them easily, that will happen within a decade

I am a keen observer from UK, I have read the article and comments and I feel that China has made great effort to resolve disputes with her neighbours, and the recent provocations from India will not help the region peace. Do you still remember the short India and China border war, and how China have behaved. China wants peace. I don't think Indian can gain any upper hand or benefit by disturbing the region peace. China wants peace but not afraid war. Back off now, if you still can. Regarding the politic, social and other issues, you have to be fair that China has achieved the unachievable for the last 30 years, from a poor to a rich country, the standard of living increases unbelievable rate. Before you lots make any comments, please look at you own country first, can you able to any better?

China has good relations with Pak,Nepal.SL,Bangladesh...we have a good relation with tibet..beat that chinks!!!

To me China is more treacherous to India than Pakistan. If necessary Idia can handle Pakistan easily, but China - I have doubt!!! India have to be real careful about China where a fifth column party CPI(M) exists inside India whose leaders only aim is to help China. During 1962 war they did that openly. Recently on Nuclear Deal with USA they did that again - on that deal China was the biggest looser. CPI(M) was working for China.

Two thousad characters limit is too short. Please extend it to atleast Ten thousand characters so that we can participate and express our views freely.

China is a bully nation and Indian leadership should never lose sight of that.China has "dispute" of one kind or another with every nation around south China sea for. The "border issue" with India is never going to be solved unless China gets what it wants and more. Today it is not 1962.India should openly declare for starters that Tibet is illegally Chinese occupied and as such their claim on Tibet is historically unjustifible.
India should be well prepared militarily to defend every inch of its territory militarily if it comes down to a show down.
Also the Indians should not forget that the leftist communists of India take their cue from China. India making any progress economically is not in Chinese interest.Indian commies made sure of that during the last five years while supporting UPA "from outside".

We Indians should not be timid of China.Arunachal Pradesh is integral part of India and we have every right to move our esteemed troops in our space and protect us from our enemies. How is this considered as aggressive?Infact, I would suggest we do more development projects like promote Tourism in the Arunachal Pradesh and connect it more to rest of the Indians. China may be superior to us in Economy,Military or as International power but that doesn' t mean we should get timid and loose our land.

Ms. Indrani,

Are you an Indian or chinese?

Though you write in the Indian press your article seems to make India look as the bad guy and China look like a peaceful neighbour wanting to co-exist but which is being continuously rubbed badly by India.

Do you follow the American news? All their news channels carry the same opinion as their leaders on any incidence around the world. Their views always fall in line with the stand that their nation and leaders take on the issue.

You have been given too much freedom and many Indian journos seem to be tempted to look at the other side of the story but sometimes you step overboard and many times mke your own people and nation look bad.

Please note the readers these days are well-informed and your incorrect reporting will only downgrade the image of the paper you write for.

Times Of India, please do publish my comment as many times it is seen that you do not publish certain comments although they are not offensive to anyone.

Hi, I am a Chinese. After reading your posts, I would also like to tell you what I feel - First, most Chinese don't think India is a threat. They actually don't care about India. Second, I found most Indian have very little knowledge about China. China has much higher living standard than India. The two countries should not be in the same category to compare. If you've never been to China, then watch "Amazing Race episode 14" to get an idea. The racing teams went to both India and China. You will find the gap is at least 30 years. Some will argue that China hides all the poors in the country side. But normal people with average IQ will find it is mission impossible to hide a size of population of Indian's extreme poor people under the carpet. Some will argue that Indian's democracy system is an advantage. If it is, it should have made India a better developed country than China, right? Why the opposite? If it failed last 40 years, it will keep failing the next 40. What I believe is that the democracy is an ultimate result when the countries living and education standard are high enough to consume it, it can not be used as a tool to bring an under-developed and illiterate country to a better one. otherwise, the democracy system will be mis-used. Third, from geological point of view, it is impossible for India to win a war with China - please don't curse me, let me explain - India has a huge geological disadvantage. A missile can hit New Delhi in minutes from Tibet, but take much much longer from India to Beijing. The time difference is critical. It is more like you sit in a valley and a man sit above the valley and pointing a gun to you. Now matter how you prepare to fight, it is not a fair game. So my suggestions to India's government are - 1. Learn from China on economic development 2. Do not irritate China, its very dangerous.

Who should rule Arunachal Pradesh is decided by its people. They are with india. As long as this is fact , India should not worry. Chinese major population is concentrated on east side, I dont think China will take a risk of hostile western border.

The question is why are we so worried of china. Does not the backstabbing of 1962 still taught us a lesson? Or we not prepared yet because the politicians of our country want to create a hype of it all for their own gains. Is India as a nation not ready to take own china in its own backyard. Do we need to justify that Arunanchal Pradesh is a part of India and there will be no dispute on it or any question. Possibly another war can answer the question but then are we not ready for it. Or we are satisfied with being pushed and threatened by China everyday making a mockery of our own country.

why cannot we put an end to Arunchal Pradesh and the northeast problem through either violence or diplomacy.. god god somebody kill our corrupted politicians before the communist in china think it is time to NUKE India.

Some Indian friends here are hysteric about China, which is really useless and unnecessary.By my understanding,most of the Chinese do not know what modern India is and bear no malicious ideas against it at all.Of course, two neighboring countries, like two individuals living together, competition and conflict are sometimes unavoidable; but if we have enough wisdom and sensibility, we should be able to manage it in a way that will not have lasting harm to each other. Even for political systems, don't you think that it is good for the world to have diversified political systems? who knows that the widely copied western democracy will perform well forever and will not collapse someday? if that hapens, it is good if have some other systems to adopt and rely on. This could just enhance the resilience of the global community. The same is true of the Chinese system. It performs quite well now, but who can guarantee that it will perform well in the future? That it perferms well in China does not mean it will be good in other countries. Any political system or governance has its strengths and weakness. If you only focus on the form instead of the content, you will get all the bad things even out of the best system. For countries like India and China with glorious histories and civilizations, we should learn to respect our culture, have confidence in our culture and promote the good things of our cultural herigate. Only by this way can we have esteem and gain the respect from others. If you follow others, you will just be a follower. As a Chinese, I believe that China should never be a follower. With this belief, I fully support what the Chinese Government is doing and appreciate the vision of the communist party.

China needs to back off instead of telling us to do so....first of all they have mistreated their own citizens in the name of progression...and Arunachal Pradesh is a part of India, so is Aksai Chin which was taken forcefully...China is just worried and sees only India as its biggest threat in Asia..

@Capt. A.S.Sehmi , your points have some merit but I am glad occassionally some senior army officer shoots his mouth off on the issues of national security. Last time when the army was told to shut up by Krishna Menon et al, we had the humilating debacle of 1962. Sometimes national security is too dangerous a thing to be left in the hands of politicians. In a country where the politicians have track record of mismanagement, corruption and incompetence , its not wrong for a senior army man to go above his pay grade once in while. One wishes army officers had the similar courage to defy Krisna Menon's ideological rants, and speak against mismanagement of army before 1962 war. Once bitten is twice shy and we have been bitten in the past, largely due to the incopetence of our politicians who misled the country on the issues of national security. Better safe than sorry.

China is just a big bully !!

China will do anything for her survival and
economic strength. For copy rights violations,
duplicating anything and everything; China is
notorious. They will make medicines with
dangerious drugs and label them as "made in India"
and when the people die, it will tarnish the
image of India. Boycott all the Chinese products,
even if they are cheap. Americans are avoiding
"made in China" products, espcially any food item.

OK. I have totally given up hopes on these Indian knucleheads since all what they want to say about China are purely hatred, insult, smear out of a darkened, self-pitied delusive mind. Now I could have become one of yours. You want war against China? Good. You want to be the enemy of China forever? Fine. You want to fight to death with China for your country's survival? Perfect. Since China is such an evil country, now I wish India could declare an all-out war against China immediately and wipe it out from earth NOW! But to do this, India should first sever all relationship with China, recall all its people who are now in China for whatever purposes, and kick out all Chinese evil people out of India no matter what they are doing in India; second, stop any mutual exchanges of everything, be it goods or people. No more business trade, since China could ONLY produce toxic and fake goods; no more acceptances of visitors from China, since people from there are devils; no more sending any Indian people to China, since it would be too dangerous and it is India's No.1 enemy. After all these being done as these are easy things to do, go straight forward and declare war. Folks. Let the true justice, fairness, morality, superiority and the will of God prevail. And of course, India would prevail hands down. Folks, ask your government to do it NOW. War baby! Destroying the evil China! How wonderful! Hurry up. Stop talking big and trash here now. NOW is the time to take actions. 60,000 extra troops on Chinese border area? Too late too little. An all-out war is what India really needs. Always be. Let the blood be spilled and let the revenge be answered! I am all with you folks now. Do it NOW! And I want to be destroyed by you too 'cause I am an evil Chinese too. Now I will sit somewhere waiting anxiously for good news from your guys, guess what good news I am expecting??? WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

China tries to look on India through Nepal , Bangladesh & Sri Lanka .
In Nepal lot more chineese firms start up their business not for profit , but just to see whats happening in south asia.

You fools ! we can bomb New Delhi any time we want ,destory your capital without any difficulty. We could do this even using only water ! Can you imagine that ? 60,000 troops is nothing .They means a lot to you ordinary civilians ,telling you people that your government is great !But for us ,it's a foolish move of your government.We can eliminate those soldiers with our cannons only! Do you think we will fight you face to face with knives(even we have to ,we can still win ,do you remember 1962 )? We want to solve the dispute peacefully ,yet you country act like this ,Unbelievable ! We deal with this problem with respect ,yet you think we are to weak to go to war ?
Please remember ,our only objective is the U.S not you ! Because you are not strong enough to compete with the world powers !
Again ,do you really think the Americans would like to see a strong India ? Come on ,be reasonable ! The only thing they want to see is what you are doing ,then expecting china to do the same !
You'd better spend more energy on your economy and people .Do not waste so much money on you military machine .Do you remember the Soviet Union ,you are going to be the second one !

India must actually build some influence in Pakistan, and eliminate the Pakistani threat. Then we can freely tackle China. China wants that we should always be embroiled with our neighbours.

The sentiments shown in almost all the messages reflect the growing aggressiveness of Indian youth which was crushed by over 1000 years of slavery and several racist doctrines of the occupiers.
As a positive side, India emerged as a nation out of it and slowly identified its true value. The growth, power and the recognition in the world however should be taken humbly and should accordingly reconstruct our mindsets and behaviours, as our civilization in not developed overnight.
We have had several ups and downs and can have several set backs in near future too but the beauty is that we survived despite all the odds in the past and will continue doing so. Indian Civilization can see match in Chinese civilization.

I had been to China several times and have felt the difference between the two countries. From a poor country to a prosperous nation, its a long journey wherein the benefits have really trickled down to the bottom and the envious western nations allege it of poor human rights records to negate this success story and we repeat those things to hide the inefficiency of our system. Do we have the real democracy?? Are our politicians, not the new emperors/Are they better than the dictators? Are we as citizens disciplined enough or we still carry individual identities which are still creating hindrances in India becoming a true democracy? China has emerged as a nation of disciplined citizens wherein every citizen is an ordinary citizen and is known by a number and not by a family tag, or the caste status or any other thing.

There is always a lesson to be learnt and the lesson is "keep improving and keep doing better without showing off too much because only your deeds will be known and the words will fade away with time".
For the current situation, we need to be vigilant as it is our rights but I am sure that no nation does not matter how excellent its economy may be, can afford to dream even to destroy a nation like India.

This article suggests that India should sit back an do nothing for the development of Arunachal Pradesh. Why should India seek China's permission to develop one of its own states. I think that the writer has gone crazy. She should think about the general public of Arunachal who will be benefited by this. The article suggests that India should never do anything for the development of Arunachal Pradesh which is wrong.

To chinkees,
What are u doing in this forum. Is that because your country doesn't allow you to express yourself.What a shame? People who left china can not even enter their own country. Shame shame shame... what an anolog? because your r from south china u know that for sure arunachal pradesh is part of china?? wow!!!! Since we r next china I suppose china is ours?? u chinks get out of our place

China is India's enemy # 1. It is a country that has absolutely no ethics, morals or standards - they live to serve themselves and to promote anything and anybody who helps them get ahead. Their track record of supporting dubious leaders in Africa for economic gains (they have even sent out hardened criminals from China to work as laborers in the world!), supporting any country that is willing to be a spoiler for India (and some other countries) is well known. What is becoming apparent is their growing intolerance for anybody who is not with them and in a strange way they are becoming a Taliban of their own - which the World at large will have to tackle jointly sooner than later.

India? A hellish place that is the most unlivable place for human beings. Beggers crush you to death. Dirty food and polluted water make you get diarrhea. The corruted and stagnant beaucracy make you cracy. You poor get satisfied by boasting yourself. My conclusion is india is helpless.

It is interesting to see the anti Chinese racism displayed on this topic. Sufficent to say that China is world power because of her economic and military power whereas India is not.
If India wants to be on the UN security council then it should be encouraging dialogue with China. If I were a Chinese diplomat and I read this blog I would immediately veto India's ambition to have a seat on the Security Council.