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Will India play in 2014 World Cup? No way, never

Shobhan Saxena,  23 February 2010, 08:17 PM IST

Rio de Janeiro: "When will India qualify for the world cup," asked Bruno. "Never, I guess," I said. "No, they can qualify some day," said Bruno. "Maybe, but certainly not for 2014, which will be played here," I replied. We were standing outside a boteco (local bar), just a few streets away from Maracana, the world's biggest football stadium which could host as many as 200,000 people at one point of time. The bar was packed with people in red and black T-shirts of Flamengo, which was going to take on the white and black shirts of Botafogo in the second semi-final of the Rio city championship last week. The fans were getting ready for the match, guzzling down beer, painting their faces and beating their samba drums.


 



Bruno, a physics lecturer at Rio university and member of Flamengo's supporter group Flamanguaca, at the Maracana.


 


To say that the Maracana is magical is an understatement. As we entered the stadium with a huge wave of thousands of flag-waiving, drum-beating and singing fans of Flamengo, I realized why football is called a religion in this part of the world. For 90 minutes, as Flamengo and Botafogo played brilliant football, the stadium looked like a shrine as the fans of two clubs sang songs, raised slogans, exploded firecrackers, waived flags, hugged each other and shouted and kissed and cried. As Botafogo trounced Flamengo 2-1, the red and black shirts left the stadium quietly, walking in tandem, lost in thoughts and fighting tears, as if they had been spurned by the gods they prayed to with so much zeal.


 



 As Flamengo and Botafogo played brilliant football at Maracana, the world's biggest football stadium looked like a shrine


 


All this while, even as I watched the fantastic display of football by two of the best teams of Rio, I kept turning the question – 'When will India qualify for the World Cup' – in my head? Looking around the stadium at the shouting, cheering fans and at the players locked in intense battle on the pitch, it was not difficult to understand why Brazil has won the world cup five times and we haven't qualified even once for the world's biggest sporting event (In 1950, India were invited by FIFA and the Brazilian Football Federation to participate in the fourth World Cup in Brazil after a number of countries pulled out of the tournament, but the team couldn't take part as most of Indian players played the game barefoot, and, as per the rules of the world body, wearing shoes was mandatory. Also, the Indian government didn't have enough foreign exchange to sponsor the team's travel to Brazil).


 


In many respects, India and Brazil are very similar and that's why comparing them is a good way of understanding ourselves. But when it comes to football, we belong to two different universes. This difference was visible at the Maracana. Football unites Brazil. In the stands I could see people of all colours – white, black and brown; and classes – rich, middle class and poor -- sharing space with each other.  They sang songs together. They danced on samba beats together. It seemed everybody knew everybody else. Bruno, who is a complete football fanatic, has a Phd in physics. He is 29 and teaches quantum mechanics at Rio's federal university. Sitting next to him was a black man with large tattoos on his arms and back. Before the match both men were tense and quiet, but once the game began they showed the same passion for their team, often sharing their thoughts with each other. That was true for all the 40,000 people present in the stadium.  While it's true that most of the players come from the favelas (slums), their fans come from all parts of the city. The Maracana becomes a melting pot when a game is on.


 


The second difference is the Brazilians' love for their body and respect for hard physical work. Football is called the beautiful game because you play it with your legs, head, chest, every part of your body except the hands. The Brazilians love their bodies. You beat a drum and they start to shake their body in a rhythm. The men here are not afraid of hard physical work. And the men who create magic with their bodies are heroes. That's what football stars do – creating magic with their bodies. So, with some fans beating drums and others singing samba numbers, the Brazilian footballers create sheer magic on the field – a celebration of hard physical work. 


 


The third difference is cricket, which has become a substitute for all sporting activity in India. The Brazilians don't play or watch cricket. Nobody here has even heard of Sachin Tendulkar. The British introduced cricket and football in Brazil at the same time. They did the same thing in India. The Brazilians took to football and the caste-ridden Indian society, afraid of polluting their bodies by coming in contact with low castes, adopted cricket -- a complete non-contact sport. Over the years, cricket has changed, but it still remains a middle-class, upper caste game. First, it was the British acolytes – the Maharajas and Nawabs – who played the game and later it was soft, middle-class and upper middle-class men who represented India for years. The demands of one-day and T20 has changed the composition of the team but it still remains the domain of upper castes, including the Jats, and middle class men from big cities and small towns alike.


 


Cricket is not a real sport. Among the world's top five sporting nations (according to Beijing Olympics medal tally), there is not even one cricket-playing nation. Among the top 10, there is only one: Australia. It's the same story in Asia. Not one cricket-playing nation exists in top 5. And only one – India – in the top 10. The other cricket giants of Asia – Pakistan and Sri Lanka – rank in the last 8. Bangladesh was second last in the last Asian Games' medal tally. And the cricket hope of the future – Nepal and Afghanistan – held third and fourth last positions.


 


Class conscious and contempt for hard physical work has made us love cricket. Compared to games like football and hockey, which demand a lot of sweat and blood, cricket is a like a walk in the park. Probably, that's the reason we love it so much. It also helps us in hiding our complete lack of presence in any global sporting event. 


 


We have produced some good footballers. We love to watch football. Names like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and Robinho are well known in India. But we don't really know the story behind their success. Last weekend, I was at a ranch in the state of Minas Gerais. The farm is close to Lima Duarte, a town of 15,000 people. The town has two football clubs. Every farm and every ranch has a small fooball field. In the evening, boys – young and old, rich and poor – get together to play football. They love the game more than the colour of their skins or their class status.


 



Boys playing football at a farm in Lima Duarte, a small village of 15,000 people. The village has two football clubs and dozens of football fields. All photos: Shobhan Saxena


 


Unlike cricket, which divides India into castes and classes, football unites Brazil. And that's the secret of Brazil's success in football.

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Sharda Bhargav - The Confiscated Soul says:

February 23,2010 at 09:05 PM IST

Sir, your apprehensions are right. India has no chance to World Cup in near future. Football requires stamina, speed and style and all these elements we lack.
In Bangla Desh, there is much more craze for football. Before the World Cup, one can find flgs of various countries fying on top of many houses indicating which football team the family supports. Bangla Desh is doing quite a bit for its own team. Hope India will take football seriouly to be able to play in the World Cup at the earliest.

(Reply to Sharda Bhargav - The Confiscated Soul)- raj says:

February 24,2010 at 09:42 PM IST

don't talk about stamina,99 percent indian's prefer cricket,people's should encourage the football player instead of telling no stemina.JAI HIND.

(Reply to raj)- Shyam says:

June 19,2010 at 01:41 PM IST

Football is the Game of Man(mardoo ka khel) where as Cricket is the game of Sixer (Higada's or Chaka's. Football need Power, Plan, Skill, Tactics, Stamina, team work, Patients etc.

(Reply to Sharda Bhargav - The Confiscated Soul)- Harsh says:

February 25,2010 at 09:36 PM IST

India can NEVER qualify for World Cup of Football. Comparing India with Brazil is like comparing chalk with cheese. Not even established footballing nations can compare themselves with Brazil.

It is the mentality of Indian sportspersons in general who only wants to play for one or other tournament and look for some post in association, or concession in railways etc. We do not produce champions. Sachin is great, but how many nations play cricket at top level. Barring England none of European sporting powerhouses plays. And in England too, Football is many times bigger than Cricket.

We live in a fools' paradise when it comes to sports. The writer is correct in a sense that we try to hide our dissatisfaction of not excelling in any other sports behind cricket. And what BCCI has done. There are no cricket nurseries in villages. No development of stadiums in smaller towns, villages. No grass root development. BCCI is just a business which is run by a group of directors who takes the cake and are eating too.

Look at the football world over. Their stars like Ronaldo, Zidane etc. do so much for poverty, play for UNICEF. FIFA runs nurseries, schools in poorest of the nations there by giving their children a chance to develop and have a good life. Nothing of similar nature has been done by cricket, even in India.

So my take is INDIA CAN NEVER QUALIFY FOR THE WORLD CUP OF FOOTBALL AND CAN NOT REACH IN TOP 100 FOORBALLING NATIONS FOR NEXT 100 YEARS.

(Reply to Sharda Bhargav - The Confiscated Soul)- Rahul says:

March 01,2010 at 02:04 PM IST

i do not know why some people have problems with cricket. Do people in brazil question that why they like foortball more and not cricket.This is a complete rubbish thought. Cricket is a fine art. Soccer is a game of rogues. Very rarely skills are required.Just because most of the world have a poor sense of art we need to bash cricket and cicketers.

(Reply to Rahul)- ninodecoro says:

April 28,2010 at 12:25 PM IST

LOL

(Reply to Rahul)- sukrit says:

May 02,2010 at 11:20 AM IST

cricket may be he game of choice for many indians.. but cricket is downright pathetic. it is probably the only OUTDOOR sport where a player can remain stationary for a long period of time while being on the field.. it is a static game with no fluency, no continuity. when people say cricket is an art, they fail to see that football is not called The Beautiful Game for nothing.. if people think cricket is more artistic than football, they are either lying or are plain naive.

(Reply to Rahul)- Dipesh says:

May 31,2010 at 12:13 PM IST

Cricket is not even a team sport, Sir. Half tyhe match is played with only two men on the field. Fitness-wise its requirements are next to nothing. Just look at morons like Yuvraj Singh. Whereas in football big names dont matter. If you are unfit or not playing well, you are discarded. Look at Ronaldo and Ronaldinho. The team comes above everything else. But, in Cricket, its not so. Moreover, there is no competition in cricket. For years only 5-6 teams have been playing well. West Indies, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe are hardly contenders in Test Cricket. None of the new entrants like Ireland or Hoilland look like they can ever succeed in Test Cricket which is the real deal. So, Cricket a fine art....what a joke!

(Reply to Dipesh)- Rahul Rishi says:

June 01,2010 at 12:53 AM IST

It is my dear. And you would have known had you ever held a bat in your hand. The complete art of batting. The skills you need to posses to even touch the ball. It is definitely an art.

(Reply to Rahul)- kabita Pyakurel's says:

June 19,2010 at 01:53 PM IST

ya India do not need any countries. we are unique. Whole world love Football but we love Cricket coz we can only play Cricket and other's Developed Nation don't like Cricket and don't play either which is very benifit for us. We are Unique .... Jai Hind.

(Reply to Sharda Bhargav - The Confiscated Soul)- SR ATHOI CHIRU says:

March 01,2010 at 07:06 PM IST

yes truly Bangladesh is one contender in near future but India football require more attention and dedication from the association

 

Mohit Saxena says:

February 23,2010 at 09:35 PM IST

Has author ever played cricket.. Just because cricket is more popular in India.. and football not.. Shobhan seems to have drawn a conclusion of indians not being hardworking.. while the fact is that cricket gained popularity only after winning world cup.. while we have nothing in football....and previous popular game in India is hockey which is as much hard work as football if not more... Just because u have to write a column.. this guys write..

(Reply to Mohit Saxena)- Satya says:

February 24,2010 at 08:27 AM IST

From the 1960s to the 1990s, the Indian team averaged six Brahmins, sometimes even nine, despite Brahmins comprising just a little over four per cent of the population. But then eight of India’s 14 prime ministers have been Brahmin, with just 10 out of India’s 60 year post-Independence existence being under the yoke of Brahmins.
So why do so many Brahmins play the game, and play it well enough to represent the country in such a distorted proportion to the general population, for the Aussies to ask such question? Why don’t Brahmins populate the hockey or football teams? And why does cricket fail to reflect the caste-wise diversity of our society?
It is because, as the historian Ramachandra Guhapoints out, cricket is a leisurely non-contact sport, which broadly meets Brahmins’ subconscious notions of touch-me-not purity and cleanliness and all?
It is also because Brahmins, having been squeezed out of everything, are using the game which has become a national obsession as one of their few spheres of public influence, protecting the status quo ante?
In The Tao of Cricket, Ashis Nandy argued that cricket is inherently suited to the culture of Hinduism: “Particularly recognisable to the Indian elites were cricket’s touch of timelessness, its emphasis on purity, and its attempt to contain aggressive competition through ritualisation.”

(Reply to Satya)- MB says:

February 24,2010 at 09:05 AM IST

How many Brahmins are in the present Cricket team ? People like you can never shed your caste hatered for the sake of free hand outs.

(Reply to Satya)- Amit says:

February 24,2010 at 11:45 AM IST

People like Satya are always think on cast base. Are these people less inteligent than upper castpeople??????? Is some body give me answer.......

(Reply to Satya)- ashutosh says:

February 25,2010 at 03:17 PM IST

Well for how many times you remember asking the caste of other guy playing cricket with you or vice versa?

(Reply to Satya)- Jayant says:

March 01,2010 at 01:26 AM IST

This is ridiculous attempt...I accept that in the begining this descriminatio did happen but for how long you are going to whinn for that...sometimes chances cant be given..they should be taken....thsts why irrespective of discrimination of blacks..they dominate football and basketball in many national teams...some people wants chance just because thay are more in number and not because they have talent...absolute rubbish...!

(Reply to Satya)- arvind says:

March 01,2010 at 01:03 AM IST

maybe thats why indians used to play kabaddi and wresling like games long time ago (and still play).....but may be i am wrong....maye be its just theory conspired by brhamins

(Reply to arvind)- ferfer says:

May 27,2010 at 02:47 PM IST

dfv

(Reply to Satya)- Dipesh says:

May 31,2010 at 12:35 PM IST

Being an ardent lover of Football and also being someone who has slowly lost interest in Cricket, I still dont agree with you. Maybe things started out the way you put it, but its not the case anymore. Cricket is popular because most Indians play it and hence they follow it. Football in comparison is only played by a few because most people in India are just not fit enough to meet the requirements of the game. Cricket does not require one to be as fit and hence is easier to play in terms of physical requirements. And this has got nothing to do with genetics. Its all about hard work and a culture of physical labour and toiling and sweating it out which most of us are averse to.

(Reply to Mohit Saxena)- Eric says:

February 24,2010 at 09:04 AM IST

Then why do Indians fail to qualify for the world cup?

(Reply to Mohit Saxena)- kirti says:

February 24,2010 at 09:06 AM IST

totally agree with you, he is just bashing, weird person

(Reply to Mohit Saxena)- ronnie says:

February 24,2010 at 01:45 PM IST

stop cricket fanatism.....foootball is a relegion..!

(Reply to ronnie)- Mohit says:

May 02,2010 at 10:24 PM IST

well.. I accept that football is a relogion is in most part of this world.. but then cricket is religion in India.. and as an Indian I have been tought to respect all the religions...I think reason behind Indias poor state of football is that it is far more physical game than cricket.. we were good in hockey till it was on grass.. once it came on astro turf, we lost there as well..Indians are not as good in built as europian or some other countries..it is as truth as that Indians are mentally superior to most of the world....

(Reply to Mohit Saxena)- Sukrit says:

May 02,2010 at 11:47 AM IST

the author is completely correct in saying that we Indians in general are lazy and abhorr hard work!!!!

 

suhas says:

February 23,2010 at 09:38 PM IST

this is so stupid. haven't u ever seen slum people playing cricket?

(Reply to suhas)- Eric says:

February 24,2010 at 09:05 AM IST

How many national players have emerged from the slums of India?

(Reply to Eric)- ramen says:

February 24,2010 at 11:19 AM IST

how much do u know abt the cricketer's backgrounds?

(Reply to Eric)- Venkatesh Sridhar says:

February 24,2010 at 11:28 AM IST

That's because if you want to get selected in the Indian/State/District team you need to bribe, it has got nothing to do with caste there. There is only one caste which rules in India and that is 'money'

 

Karthik says:

February 23,2010 at 09:46 PM IST

You forgot another aspect: Red Meat

There is enough medical evidence to show that eating red meat (especially in the 5y to 15yr phase) adds to the thickness of bones, which is a big plus for physical activity and contact sports. Hindus do not eat red meat...and hence India will not qualify EVER for the football world cup.

You need more empirical evidence? Check out the matches in the indian football league - a disproportionate number of people from north-east, christians from goa and muslims as well. Why? Coz they eat red meat.

(Reply to Karthik)- Satya says:

February 24,2010 at 08:27 AM IST

From the 1960s to the 1990s, the Indian team averaged six Brahmins, sometimes even nine, despite Brahmins comprising just a little over four per cent of the population. But then eight of India’s 14 prime ministers have been Brahmin, with just 10 out of India’s 60 year post-Independence existence being under the yoke of Brahmins.
So why do so many Brahmins play the game, and play it well enough to represent the country in such a distorted proportion to the general population, for the Aussies to ask such question? Why don’t Brahmins populate the hockey or football teams? And why does cricket fail to reflect the caste-wise diversity of our society?
It is because, as the historian Ramachandra Guhapoints out, cricket is a leisurely non-contact sport, which broadly meets Brahmins’ subconscious notions of touch-me-not purity and cleanliness and all?
It is also because Brahmins, having been squeezed out of everything, are using the game which has become a national obsession as one of their few spheres of public influence, protecting the status quo ante?
In The Tao of Cricket, Ashis Nandy argued that cricket is inherently suited to the culture of Hinduism: “Particularly recognisable to the Indian elites were cricket’s touch of timelessness, its emphasis on purity, and its attempt to contain aggressive competition through ritualisation.”

(Reply to Satya)- Venkatesh Sridhar says:

February 24,2010 at 11:37 AM IST

Dude, you got some serious issues. Good luck!

(Reply to Karthik)- MG says:

February 25,2010 at 03:25 AM IST

You live in dream world MR. WHo said Hindus dont eat meat. I am Sindhi and we grew eating meta. I am married to Sardar family and they eat Meat too. My neighbours are Telugu and they eat Meat too. The only community I have seen who dont eat meat is Gujaratis, Marwaris and Brahmins. Rest most of the India eats it.

(Reply to Karthik)- Siddharth says:

February 25,2010 at 04:31 PM IST

No offence but this is seriously the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard.Look around do all Hindus are staunch vegetarians?And I feel the reason for the sad state of football is nothing to do with meat and all those things.Its just because we Indians don't pay much respect to it.This is the state of almost every sport.When a child wants to take up sport he/she is discouraged by his/her parents...There are also no local leagues and structure to identify sporting talent early.

 

Rajeev.B.G says:

February 23,2010 at 09:48 PM IST

why so serious!!!

(Reply to Rajeev.B.G)- nadir says:

February 24,2010 at 06:05 PM IST

hahaha... one of the best posts on this page. hit the nail on the head buddy :)

(Reply to nadir)- nancy says:

June 05,2010 at 05:40 PM IST

very true dude!!! u rock rajeev!!:P
I find all these so funny....it's da most economic game...wot say???any kinda bat n ball will do...lolzzzz

 

Vaibhav says:

February 23,2010 at 09:54 PM IST

First Thing first..STOP blaming cricket for all n sundry below Indian Sky....Indian government is doing no big favours for its developement..it is the passion and love of common Indians that had made it so huge in country...Tennis has emerged as popular and so does badminton n TT...na many other sports...Football itself is popular and if not as poplular as Cricket..u just can't go blaming people...
Mr writer..When was the last u played serious cricket...My guess is never..what even made u say that it's like a walk in park???
Just becoz it isn't wide spread does not make it any smaller or less enjoying sport...Going by ur standards, we should right away chuck many traditional sports just because FIRANGS don't play it...This is brilliant showcase of FIRANG-A** licking mentality..u whole-heartedly denied in your article.
Can't u get simple point, people play sports for fun n enjoyment and not to show-off nad win scores of medals..these things follow the passion.

And now lets come to caste n classes..i am assuming a Brazil-trotting guy must not be poor by any Indian standard as Indian common man cann't still afford to there for vacation..so next when u feel like preachingon caste n classes..my advice , pack your bad and go to contrysides n villages of ANY INDIAN State( not just JAAT areas)..u will finds kids of slums, which-ever class n all playing cricket..Gully cricket..ever heard of it..is played by all n sundry together....go to any park..u will see lads enjoying this sport. u will understand these people don't giv much ado to allu said...probably its more in ur mind. and the economic status of many Indian cricket players is a story for another day!!!!

For record have not played cricket for last 15 years at least...but reason i wrote all this is I am sick of people like u and ur mentality. You can't force people to love a sport more than other...Football is an excellent game and I have no qualms in one day it emerging big.Till dat day..Relax.

(Reply to Vaibhav)- Satya says:

February 24,2010 at 08:28 AM IST

From the 1960s to the 1990s, the Indian team averaged six Brahmins, sometimes even nine, despite Brahmins comprising just a little over four per cent of the population. But then eight of India’s 14 prime ministers have been Brahmin, with just 10 out of India’s 60 year post-Independence existence being under the yoke of Brahmins.
So why do so many Brahmins play the game, and play it well enough to represent the country in such a distorted proportion to the general population, for the Aussies to ask such question? Why don’t Brahmins populate the hockey or football teams? And why does cricket fail to reflect the caste-wise diversity of our society?
It is because, as the historian Ramachandra Guhapoints out, cricket is a leisurely non-contact sport, which broadly meets Brahmins’ subconscious notions of touch-me-not purity and cleanliness and all?
It is also because Brahmins, having been squeezed out of everything, are using the game which has become a national obsession as one of their few spheres of public influence, protecting the status quo ante?
In The Tao of Cricket, Ashis Nandy argued that cricket is inherently suited to the culture of Hinduism: “Particularly recognisable to the Indian elites were cricket’s touch of timelessness, its emphasis on purity, and its attempt to contain aggressive competition through ritualisation.”

(Reply to Satya)- Anup says:

February 24,2010 at 12:34 PM IST

This is a shit article.Indians love cricket and they do play cricket quite well. So whats wrong in it. I am sure that the author has never played football himself ever in his life and he is set out to give us gyan.If he is so concerned then he should have been a football player representing India atleast in the SAFF games where india has been champions many time.

(Reply to Anup)- Anni says:

June 19,2010 at 02:12 PM IST

he is not telling that to play cricket is wrong but he is telling that to show world or to move with all world communities India should also qualify for world cup football. he loves his nation and want to show world that India is also sporting powerhouse. Don't try to Hide truth for your weakness.

(Reply to Satya)- Vaibhav says:

February 24,2010 at 07:33 PM IST

Satya, have u completely lost it???? have u ever seen CRICKET..people of all caste, religions put their saliva, sweat everything on cricket ball..which comes in contact with every person...can u imagine that haapening if the game was so Touch-me not???? have u seen huddles n hugs exchanged...as far as I see all religions where its Hindu, Chistian, Muslim or Sikh..they all play together..n why this caste-ist attitude of digging in Brahmins n non-brahmins....
If there is any reason y we can't succeed in world sports is this...we dont research about skills in games..but this obsession about castes, relgion in games..just like in every other thing!!!!

(Reply to Vaibhav)- Eric says:

February 24,2010 at 09:07 AM IST

Why are players not emerging from the slums, villages and real small towns. Why are there no dalits in the national team? Why was the only dalit to play for India, Vinod Kambli, humiliated and thrown out of the team?

(Reply to Eric)- Venkatesh Sridhar says:

February 24,2010 at 11:39 AM IST

because he was out of form. Plain and simple.

(Reply to Eric)- sujith says:

February 24,2010 at 12:36 PM IST

....ur a christian...u hv no business talking
about some other religion's.u donno nething caste system.....we shd nt look at whetehr dalits play or muslims play....
we shd allow people who have good talent.......keep ur bullshit to yourself and don be communal.....why r players nt comin frm slums....haha wat lousy shit ru asking dude.....

(Reply to sujith)- eric says:

February 24,2010 at 03:32 PM IST

i am not christian.

(Reply to Eric)- Arnab says:

February 24,2010 at 12:48 PM IST

lets put Reservation In here too like we have put everywhere else. Indians are bunch of losers and cry babies when we don't achieve something we blame others. There is politics in Indian cricket and corruption to many extent, have your say there rather than fighting for dalits and other useless things. people like you can never understand, if you want to achieve you have to fight and put hardwork for it rather than crying.

(Reply to Eric)- Vaibhav says:

February 24,2010 at 11:41 PM IST

Eric...dude..where were u..join politics now..u hv done what likes of Mayawati also cann't do till now..go NOW n dnt waste ur talent...Bcoz u can't understand simple fact that ppl in slums n small towns dnt have those facilities and money to afford it...thus advantage to other who somehow can...Unfair...is it..but so is Life.....so Grow uo n STOP BEING CRY BABY...BTW, m not very sure bout economic status of Kaif, Pathans ,Sehwag etc..try n find out...
n ur STUPID query bout Kambli is already replied..n advise dnt cry for him.he is raking moolah in TV by maligning Sachin..so just chill!!!

(Reply to Vaibhav)- vikshipta says:

February 26,2010 at 02:52 PM IST

We should have reservations in cricket team. Out of 11, 3 players from SC, 2 from ST, 2 Muslims, 1 buddhist and christian each. And 2 positions for General category

(Reply to Eric)- Ashish says:

February 26,2010 at 12:36 PM IST

Eric, Cricket is a very complicated sport.. it needs a big ground.. and lot of equipments.. unlike football which just needs a ball.. hence no people from slums.. got it?? now get a life

(Reply to Vaibhav)- Saurabh says:

February 24,2010 at 01:49 PM IST

I agree to your comment. the writer is biased and it shows in the hatred towards cricket.
Cricket is a far more intense game than football.
The supreme form of Cricket is played across 5 days and takes a toll of your mental and physical health. Cricket is an amazing game so stop spewing hatred for cricket

(Reply to Saurabh)- Siddharth says:

February 25,2010 at 04:38 PM IST

@Saurabh-Cricket is an amazing sport.But that doesn't mean other sports are to be taken for granted.Each sport is physically and mentally demanding.Learn to respect other sports first.

(Reply to Saurabh)- Dipesh says:

May 31,2010 at 12:24 PM IST

Cricket is more intense??? Thats a load of Crap. Only test matches are worth watching. One dayers and 20-20 are utter nonsense. Cicket is interesting only when the top teams play which are just 5-6. Football has more teams which are competitive. Cricket sometimes just happens in sleep mode.

(Reply to Vaibhav)- Maitrey says:

February 26,2010 at 07:36 AM IST

Good one Vaibhav. I am die hard fan of cricket. I cannot survive without it and like me there are billion in india. As the author said cricket is only for upper class, that is his ignorance for cricket. I would recommend author if he does not have any knowledge about cricket then please do not criticize it. Cricket has its own charm and they know who love this game. As long as football is concerned it is beautiful game and even I love to watch and play the football but if other countries are not following cricket then it is their choice. We cannot despise cricket because other countries do not follow it. That is not the enough reason.

Here I will confront the author's view about love for cricket by any indian. I would say one thing cricket is as loved in india as football is popular in brazil. Cricket is religion in india and Sachin is god. Cricket is not only loved but worshiped and that is too much for any sports. So please, Shobhan Saxena, learn about the india's love for cricket and then comment on it. When Sachin is batting the life is standstill in india. No one is stopping you from watching or playing football but your views about cricket are wrong.

(Reply to Maitrey)- Basavraj says:

May 27,2010 at 01:06 PM IST

well said,
the fact is that we cannot blame one sport for the plight of others... no doubt football is a beautiful game, but saying cricket is just a game of middle and upper class people is putting it irresponsibly.. the popularity of cricket in india is because it has earned it, no doubt the other games are neglected... i this case we need to give importance to other sports so that they can be nurtured.. remember, cricket has earned it's place in india today because 1.15 billion people love.. and this is not a small number..and the author has mentioned that football is more physical, i think nowadays sport is about entertainment, more than physical, we do not go to watch a game to see how well they players are physically, but to get entertained.. and cricket provides a lot of it!!!

(Reply to Vaibhav)- Devansh says:

June 19,2010 at 02:06 PM IST

Ronaldo was from Slum area and Maradona was too. There are lot's of world famous players in Football who were poor background.

 

mohit says:

February 23,2010 at 11:28 PM IST

this is the most idiotic blog ive ever come across..Indians play cricket because they dont want to work hard??? how ridiculous. this post is more like u wrote in the heat of the moment after watching a game in Macarena.And for the records India plays hockey,Tennis, badminton, shooting, polo and is now focusing on swimming and soccer. you should rather appreciate that India won the cricket WC, a so-called game of the rich when we were one of the poorest nations.Unbelievably nonsense blog.Cant belive TOI can have such stuff...and by the way i play soccer at university level, so dont think i am just a cricket lover.

(Reply to mohit)- Eric says:

February 24,2010 at 09:10 AM IST

We won the world cup in 1983. And then what? In the last world cup, we got knocked out in the first round. cricket is like baseball, played by a few countries but its folowers believe that it's the most important game in the world. the American national baseball championship is called the World Series. How stupid is that? As stupid as cricket fans' claim that cricket is a global game.

(Reply to Eric)- Arnab Deb says:

February 24,2010 at 12:49 PM IST

its a game not world war. love the game

(Reply to Eric)- Mohit says:

February 25,2010 at 01:17 AM IST

everything is true eric...but the point is that we play cricket not because we are not hardworking people, it is because we are simply good at that game.Cricket requires much more analytical and brain power than football, does that make Brazilians retarded? NO, the point is that the writer is really stupid.hes one of those wanting to lick the brazilians' soles...every country is good, in fact, best in one sport. Chinese are good at Table Tennis, Canadians are good at ice hockey, US is good at athletics, Brazilians are good at Soccer,Indians are good at cricket...simple as that

(Reply to Mohit)- milan says:

June 19,2010 at 02:22 PM IST

And all those Countries you list Play football or Love football more than Cricket except India. Come to reality my fren. stop day dreaming.

(Reply to Eric)- ashish says:

February 26,2010 at 01:06 PM IST

no one says cricket is a golbal game.. and u dont play a game because the world plays it.. u play or watch because u love it.. how lame of u.. u are pathetic

(Reply to Eric)- Deepak says:

June 19,2010 at 02:19 PM IST

Cricket is not Global Game. Football is Global Game. Where as USA is playing in world cup football. Australia the Powerhouse of Cricket is Playing in World Cup Football. South Africa is Hosting World Cup Football and New Zealand too is playing World Cup football. More than 5 Billion people around the world Watch FIFA World Cup Football. Shame on India.

 

Sanju Nair says:

February 23,2010 at 11:43 PM IST

Shoban, I liked some of you previous postings. But this one....argggghhhh.....reeks of bias and complete ignorance about the sporting field. I dont see the point, if any, that you are trying to make. It appears to me that you hate cricket and happened to witness a big football game in Brazil and concluded that Cricket divided india and Football united Brazil. C'mon I havent seen a more lame rant than this.

Couple of points I need to make....first ....Going by the analogy that since Cricket is played only by few commonealth countries and hence not a sport, many other sports cease to become sports for there are far too many sporting activities that have limited geographical presence. Do you want to say Winter Olympics is a waste of time. And some of the biggest money spinners in North America like American Football, Baseball, Ice Hockey etc. are not sports at all because they are primarily played in North America.

Second...we are bad in Football has other reasons and popularity of Cricket is perhaps the least important of it. Lack of infrastrucutre, bad management, lack of public and commercial appeal have all contributed to it and Cricket has nothing to do with it.

(Reply to Sanju Nair)- Satya says:

February 24,2010 at 08:37 AM IST

From the 1960s to the 1990s, the Indian team averaged six Brahmins, sometimes even nine, despite Brahmins comprising just a little over four per cent of the population. But then eight of India’s 14 prime ministers have been Brahmin, with just 10 out of India’s 60 year post-Independence existence being under the yoke of Brahmins. So why do so many Brahmins play the game, and play it well enough to represent the country in such a distorted proportion to the general population, for the Aussies to ask such question? Why don’t Brahmins populate the hockey or football teams? And why does cricket fail to reflect the caste-wise diversity of our society? It is because, as the historian Ramachandra Guhapoints out, cricket is a leisurely non-contact sport, which broadly meets Brahmins’ subconscious notions of touch-me-not purity and cleanliness and all? It is also because Brahmins, having been squeezed out of everything, are using the game which has become a national obsession as one of their few spheres of public influence, protecting the status quo ante? In The Tao of Cricket, Ashis Nandy argued that cricket is inherently suited to the culture of Hinduism: “Particularly recognisable to the Indian elites were cricket’s touch of timelessness, its emphasis on purity, and its attempt to contain aggressive competition through ritualisation.”

(Reply to Satya)- G says:

February 24,2010 at 03:10 PM IST

why u r spoiling the space

 

Dhiraj says:

February 24,2010 at 12:00 AM IST

Cricket has been made a scape goat for all the bad things in the indian sports scene in the last so may years. i dont agree with the writer that the game is devoid of any hard work, it is game of utmost skill, persistence, planning & Stratergy and above all hard work. if the world does not play it or to put the other way round does'nt have the skill to play it it does not mean that Cricket is an inferior game. it does not take any thing from Sachin Tendulkar if South America does'nt know him, Sachin is Sachin because at the age of 14 yrs he has a unique ability to stand for continous 4 hrs on the same crease and play it ball by ball. 66 nations including US and Japan have the cricket team of their own but as they say for cricket team to attain some thing it takes at least 50 long years. Olympics is a game of technology and continous investment, it is a game of polictical will and HRD investment. all these can transform any country, even india after all these years is targeting to get 10 medals in london 2012, a thing which was unthinkable in recent times. to sum up all a sport gets popular only if it is intresting and is coupled with lot of money,cricket never killed any sport in india, it was the bad performance of sportsmen and bad administarion that killed the Indian sports.

 

Siddharth Modur says:

February 24,2010 at 12:27 AM IST

Reading your previous posts from Brazil, I cannot help but comment on your tone. Every article has something which says why we are terrible and why the world is great. Agreed that other countries may have some things better than us. But instead of just talking about that, why don't you also point out to some good similarities? You come across as a whiner who always says Indians suffer from this and that due to caste, creed, religion etc. Show the good side also dude!

(Reply to Siddharth Modur)- NB says:

February 24,2010 at 07:16 AM IST

Which good deeds ? Why don't you tell us ?

(Reply to NB)- Venkatesh Sridhar says:

February 24,2010 at 11:55 AM IST

How about the fact that we have made advances in the field of space

(Reply to Siddharth Modur)- Satya says:

February 24,2010 at 08:29 AM IST

From the 1960s to the 1990s, the Indian team averaged six Brahmins, sometimes even nine, despite Brahmins comprising just a little over four per cent of the population. But then eight of India’s 14 prime ministers have been Brahmin, with just 10 out of India’s 60 year post-Independence existence being under the yoke of Brahmins.
So why do so many Brahmins play the game, and play it well enough to represent the country in such a distorted proportion to the general population, for the Aussies to ask such question? Why don’t Brahmins populate the hockey or football teams? And why does cricket fail to reflect the caste-wise diversity of our society?
It is because, as the historian Ramachandra Guhapoints out, cricket is a leisurely non-contact sport, which broadly meets Brahmins’ subconscious notions of touch-me-not purity and cleanliness and all?
It is also because Brahmins, having been squeezed out of everything, are using the game which has become a national obsession as one of their few spheres of public influence, protecting the status quo ante?
In The Tao of Cricket, Ashis Nandy argued that cricket is inherently suited to the culture of Hinduism: “Particularly recognisable to the Indian elites were cricket’s touch of timelessness, its emphasis on purity, and its attempt to contain aggressive competition through ritualisation.”

 

SPaulTOI says:

February 24,2010 at 12:45 AM IST

"The Brazilians took to football and caste-ridden Indian society, afraid of polluting their bodies by coming in contact with low castes, adopted cricket -- a complete non-contact sport."

You've lost it man...this is the most moronic theory I've heard in a LONG LONG time!!!

 

Indian says:

February 24,2010 at 02:11 AM IST

Very insightful. But the only thing is, Why or How is it that Cricket creates a caste divide??
I totally agree that the olympics medal getting nations dont play cricket. But if you consider USA, which is up the rung at the olympic medal tally, they play a similar sport.
Baseball. And baseball is also a 'walk in the park'.
No need to blame cricket for us not getting a Football World Cup entry. It is just the way it is with people do not promoting any other sport. We had world class Hockey teams. Remember Dhyan Chand?
Looks like the blogger here just forgot India's hockey heritage.

(Reply to Indian)- Satya says:

February 24,2010 at 08:30 AM IST

From the 1960s to the 1990s, the Indian team averaged six Brahmins, sometimes even nine, despite Brahmins comprising just a little over four per cent of the population. But then eight of India’s 14 prime ministers have been Brahmin, with just 10 out of India’s 60 year post-Independence existence being under the yoke of Brahmins.
So why do so many Brahmins play the game, and play it well enough to represent the country in such a distorted proportion to the general population, for the Aussies to ask such question? Why don’t Brahmins populate the hockey or football teams? And why does cricket fail to reflect the caste-wise diversity of our society?
It is because, as the historian Ramachandra Guhapoints out, cricket is a leisurely non-contact sport, which broadly meets Brahmins’ subconscious notions of touch-me-not purity and cleanliness and all?
It is also because Brahmins, having been squeezed out of everything, are using the game which has become a national obsession as one of their few spheres of public influence, protecting the status quo ante?
In The Tao of Cricket, Ashis Nandy argued that cricket is inherently suited to the culture of Hinduism: “Particularly recognisable to the Indian elites were cricket’s touch of timelessness, its emphasis on purity, and its attempt to contain aggressive competition through ritualisation.”

(Reply to Satya)- Gizza says:

February 24,2010 at 06:12 PM IST

Who are these Brahmins Satya? Don't lie. Ranjitsinhji was a Rajput. Duleepsinhji was a Rajput.

Some of the Maharashtrians with names ending in "kar" are Brahmin but they can also be Maratha and even Dalit. Kapil Dev was a Jat. Ask any Kannadiga and they will tell contrary to popular conception that Kumble and Dravid are not Brahmin.

Most of the Punjabi Hindu/Delhites (exceptions are Ishant and Mishra) are non-Brahmin. Gambhir, Sehwag, Chopra (in the past), Nehra, Chawla, Praveen Kumar. Neither are Patels Brahmin.

You know sometimes the Indian team only averages 7 Hindus let alone Brahmins. There were Parsis (Farokh Engineer, Nari Contractor), Muslims (Many Khans, Nawabs, Pathans, Jaffers and Mohammeds), Sikhs (Bishan Singh Bedi, Navjot Singh Sidhu, Harbhajan Singh, Yuvraj Singh) and Christians (Vijay Hazare).

And why do countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh (Muslim majority) and Sri Lanka (Buddhist, the religion famous for no castes, why is why Ambedkar became one) follow cricket so madly?

Also don't copy S. Anand's Outlookindia article from http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?218913. It is a copyright infringement.

This is a complete list of Indians cricketers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_India_Test_cricketers

Going through the names your extraordinary claim seems quite unsubstantiated.

(Btw I am not a Brahmin :P and of course am not fan of the caste system but lower castes should stop blaming everything on the caste system and start taking your own responsiblity for a few things. Despite reservations, why do they get lower marks in university entrace exams? Is it the Brahmins' fault that they are not interested in studies? Their parents should encourage them rather than being lazy. Having resource and money for tuition only play a minor role in the long run. Geez...)

 

krishnaswami says:

February 24,2010 at 02:31 AM IST

Will india ever play world cup football? you rightly and perfectly answered a capital NO. Not in our life times for sure. We are not going to see india even getting close to the qualifying stages because we are not even a power in south asian football leave alone asia (japan/south korea)and middle east (bahrain/qatar/iraq) which are clubbed together as a zone for qualification by fifa. We do not have the genes for football thats for sure and also we do not have a culture for excellence in sports in our country. If we really were so serious about sport the HRD minister should have formulated his education policy jointly with the sports minister. The reason why i am saying this is sports is because sports talent has to be identified and nurtured at the school level and for that the school curriculum needs to have sports as a major subject which each child compulsorily needs to participate. Unless this happens we can never be a sporting country.Our country has its priorities totally screwed up when it comes to sports and you and me writing about it is not going to change anything. So lets choose our favourite teams and clubs from latin america or europe and enjoy their success and losses like our own!!!

 

krishnaswami says:

February 24,2010 at 02:32 AM IST

Will india ever play world cup football? you rightly and perfectly answered a capital NO. Not in our life times for sure. We are not going to see india even getting close to the qualifying stages because we are not even a power in south asian football leave alone asia (japan/south korea)and middle east (bahrain/qatar/iraq) which are clubbed together as a zone for qualification by fifa. We do not have the genes for football thats for sure and also we do not have a culture for excellence in sports in our country. If we really were so serious about sport the HRD minister should have formulated his education policy jointly with the sports minister. The reason why i am saying this is sports is because sports talent has to be identified and nurtured at the school level and for that the school curriculum needs to have sports as a major subject which each child compulsorily needs to participate. Unless this happens we can never be a sporting country.Our country has its priorities totally screwed up when it comes to sports and you and me writing about it is not going to change anything. So lets choose our favourite teams and clubs from latin america or europe and enjoy their success and losses like our own!!!

 

YD says:

February 24,2010 at 02:45 AM IST

I agree with the writer that India likes cricket because of lack of physical hard work and caste system but the writer has forgotten that India was world champion in hockey and had won 28 successive world cups. The rot started with religious, caste and regional interference by Congress after independence. The same type of interference decimated football, people have forgotten that Mohun Bagan was a formidable football team. I used to play and liked cricket but it has become a really boring game, now I play tenis and watch football.

 

shaik ahmed says:

February 24,2010 at 03:01 AM IST

Okk brazilian love football so what.. we love cricket. ..Why you need us to love football..May be its fav sport of the world but we love cricket..this article nuts..Okk football needs more sweat n blood..But i think you haven't played cricket any time, it also need's..I dont think in cricket there's any caste n upper middle..

(Reply to shaik ahmed)- Satya says:

February 24,2010 at 08:40 AM IST

From the 1960s to the 1990s, the Indian team averaged six Brahmins, sometimes even nine, despite Brahmins comprising just a little over four per cent of the population. But then eight of India’s 14 prime ministers have been Brahmin, with just 10 out of India’s 60 year post-Independence existence being under the yoke of Brahmins. So why do so many Brahmins play the game, and play it well enough to represent the country in such a distorted proportion to the general population, for the Aussies to ask such question? Why don’t Brahmins populate the hockey or football teams? And why does cricket fail to reflect the caste-wise diversity of our society? It is because, as the historian Ramachandra Guhapoints out, cricket is a leisurely non-contact sport, which broadly meets Brahmins’ subconscious notions of touch-me-not purity and cleanliness and all? It is also because Brahmins, having been squeezed out of everything, are using the game which has become a national obsession as one of their few spheres of public influence, protecting the status quo ante? In The Tao of Cricket, Ashis Nandy argued that cricket is inherently suited to the culture of Hinduism: “Particularly recognisable to the Indian elites were cricket’s touch of timelessness, its emphasis on purity, and its attempt to contain aggressive competition through ritualisation.”

(Reply to Satya)- Manohar says:

February 24,2010 at 09:28 PM IST

Hi Idiot

You just know to copy from your word document and past in bolg, no mater its relevant or not.

(Reply to shaik ahmed)- parth says:

February 24,2010 at 11:02 PM IST

i agree with u ahmed. if india has not made it into fball wcup so has brazil not made into cricket wcup. are they cribbing. cricket btw has made it into olympics. this will encourage many coutries to take it seriously.

 

Dushyant says:

February 24,2010 at 03:31 AM IST

For the record I have nothing against football nor am I a cricket fanatic but I find the theory that cricket divides us, purported in this article completely baseless. It might have been true ages ago but I cannot imagine in todays age a person sitting in the Eden gardens wondering about the caste and class of person sitting next to him. And one of the major reasons why other sports suffer in our country is not because of cricket but because of the shoddy administrators of those games. And just because majority of the world does not even know about cricket does not take anything away from the fact that an Indian win on the cricket fields fills the hearts of millions with pure joy. If anything we should be thankful to cricket for giving India some semblance of presence in global sports arena rather than being ashamed of it. Cricket bashing is becoming fashionable it seems.

 

Pranav says:

February 24,2010 at 03:51 AM IST

Pathetic article. I don't know why this author tries to show India and Indians down. Some time he compares Istanbul to Mumbai and other time Football to Cricket. Also I am sure he has never played any cricket or was not taken in any team to play and thats why the hatred. If he thinks standing in scorching heat for 50 overs (3.5 hrs) is not physical enough, he is wrong. Football is played for 90 mins while cricket (1 days) are played for 8 hrs and test match for 5 days.
I think TOI should ban this author from publishing his blogs.

(Reply to Pranav)- Satya says:

February 24,2010 at 08:41 AM IST

From the 1960s to the 1990s, the Indian team averaged six Brahmins, sometimes even nine, despite Brahmins comprising just a little over four per cent of the population. But then eight of India’s 14 prime ministers have been Brahmin, with just 10 out of India’s 60 year post-Independence existence being under the yoke of Brahmins. So why do so many Brahmins play the game, and play it well enough to represent the country in such a distorted proportion to the general population, for the Aussies to ask such question? Why don’t Brahmins populate the hockey or football teams? And why does cricket fail to reflect the caste-wise diversity of our society? It is because, as the historian Ramachandra Guhapoints out, cricket is a leisurely non-contact sport, which broadly meets Brahmins’ subconscious notions of touch-me-not purity and cleanliness and all? It is also because Brahmins, having been squeezed out of everything, are using the game which has become a national obsession as one of their few spheres of public influence, protecting the status quo ante? In The Tao of Cricket, Ashis Nandy argued that cricket is inherently suited to the culture of Hinduism: “Particularly recognisable to the Indian elites were cricket’s touch of timelessness, its emphasis on purity, and its attempt to contain aggressive competition through ritualisation.”

(Reply to Satya)- Pranav says:

February 24,2010 at 07:09 PM IST

Satya, Are you paid by Shoban to respond to every comment by any other reader. :)
Your analysis of Brahmins in cricket is BS. It is not based on caste but on skill. Also, after every wicket I see that the entire team hug and pet each other. This is happening from 1960. So what is this funda of touch-me-not... People like you and Shoban create the divide and make it very obvious by publishing some statistics which are conviniently suited to you.

 

Suresh Nayyar says:

February 24,2010 at 06:34 AM IST

Great article, Shobhan. you hit the nail on the head. we indians are pathetic in sports and even more pathetic in accpeting any criticism. Good work, keep it up.

 

Dipak says:

February 24,2010 at 06:36 AM IST

Though I dont agree with you that we are not good at football because we are good at cricket, I agree with your analysis. Brilliant. Cricket divides India totally.

 

Satya says:

February 24,2010 at 06:40 AM IST

It's amazing to see people getting all riled up for criticising cricket. Why is cricket beyond criticism? Or for that matter why is India beyond criticism. there are thousands of things wrong with this country. we can make it better only if we analyse and criticise ourselves. Good job, Shobhan of comparing India with Brazil. we should know where we stand in the world.

 

Mikhail Zade says:

February 24,2010 at 07:38 AM IST

This article is a SHIT

(Reply to Mikhail Zade)- Satya says:

February 24,2010 at 08:45 AM IST

From the 1960s to the 1990s, the Indian team averaged six Brahmins, sometimes even nine, despite Brahmins comprising just a little over four per cent of the population. But then eight of India’s 14 prime ministers have been Brahmin, with just 10 out of India’s 60 year post-Independence existence being under the yoke of Brahmins. So why do so many Brahmins play the game, and play it well enough to represent the country in such a distorted proportion to the general population, for the Aussies to ask such question? Why don’t Brahmins populate the hockey or football teams? And why does cricket fail to reflect the caste-wise diversity of our society? It is because, as the historian Ramachandra Guhapoints out, cricket is a leisurely non-contact sport, which broadly meets Brahmins’ subconscious notions of touch-me-not purity and cleanliness and all? It is also because Brahmins, having been squeezed out of everything, are using the game which has become a national obsession as one of their few spheres of public influence, protecting the status quo ante? In The Tao of Cricket, Ashis Nandy argued that cricket is inherently suited to the culture of Hinduism: “Particularly recognisable to the Indian elites were cricket’s touch of timelessness, its emphasis on purity, and its attempt to contain aggressive competition through ritualisation.”

 

Abir Sen says:

February 24,2010 at 08:50 AM IST

Shobhan, good observations. But I think you should have mentioned Calcutta in your article. In a sense Calcutta is like Rio because people here love to play football and it has nothing to do with caste and class. As far as cricket is concerned, it's a colonial baggage we are carrying on for no reason.

(Reply to Abir Sen)- parth says:

February 24,2010 at 11:07 PM IST

cricket is colonial baggage. and what is football? our indiginous creation. this is ridiculous.

 

Eric says:

February 24,2010 at 08:52 AM IST

sports fans, no need to insult each other... we have many problems in the country... no need to fight over cricket and football..... both are waste of time and money...

 

sufal says:

February 24,2010 at 08:53 AM IST

How lame is this! cricket divides people!!
Infact cricket is something that unites people. Hindus or Muslims, upper caste or lower caste, middle class or lower class all come together to cheer for India when there is cricket match going on.
And another one! Indians don't want to work hard, so they chose cricket. Thats so sick.

And if some game is not played by so-called best sport-playing countries, it is not a real sport. What an argument was that. Now we need the approval of certain countries to decide which is a real sport.

 

Richa says:

February 24,2010 at 08:54 AM IST

I stumbled upon this blog by chance. It's great to know that there are some people out there who dare to take on the cricket mafia in this country. Cricket is the opeum of Indian masses, nothing else...

 

Jage Raho! says:

February 24,2010 at 09:02 AM IST

Of course who cares for Sachin Tendulkar outside India. Players like Pele and Maradona are known in each and every country. They are real global sports stars, not our cricketers who no one knows or cares about in the rest of the world.

 

Jayesh Patel says:

February 24,2010 at 09:31 AM IST

India needs football academies to get good players. I think the best way to promote Indian football is to adopt the cricket model, but I guess the author is right when he says that middle class monopoly of cricket is killing football in India.

 

AB says:

February 24,2010 at 09:34 AM IST

You are right... no body in the world takes us seriously as a sporting nation. you know why because they know we are not. how can we forget the humiliation we suffer every four years at the olympics and at the time of football world cup qualifiers.

 

Aman says:

February 24,2010 at 09:35 AM IST

India and football. is that some kind of joke? cricket is a non-sport and we are good at it. well said!!!

 

Bobby says:

February 24,2010 at 09:37 AM IST

Why are the Indian middle-classes so scared of caste and class analysis. Is it because they have something to be ashamed of? Something to hide? Cricket is a myth created by the right-wing nationalists who want to see India as a super power one day.

 

Aditya says:

February 24,2010 at 09:38 AM IST

Shobhan, you display an incredible lack of knowledge of history in this article. The British never ruled Brazil. Brazil was ruled by the Portuguese for around 300 years.
Secondly, when you say that the British 'introduced' a particular game to the country, what do you mean? Did the British start coaching centres for children?
Hell, the game was 'introduced' via to the country by the ICS and military officers when they played it among themselves. The locals (Indians in case of India) just came to watch. Cricket was originally picked up by the various kings of the princely states spread across the country and then eventually spread among the masses.
In England, football has always been a game of the masses, cricket has been played by the economic upper and middle classes. The ruling class that actually ruled in India (which was always the upper crust of the British society) never played football. So it was never introduced to India in the way cricket was.

So Shobhan Saxena, please do research a bit more before you put such stuff into print (or in this case, onto a webpage).

(Reply to Aditya)- Shobhan says:

February 24,2010 at 08:24 PM IST

Brazil was a Portuguese colony but till the 19th Century, all colonial powers -- the British, Dutch, French and Spanish were active there, trying to get a foothold. The British missionaries and tradesmen active in Brazil introduced the two games -- cricket and football -- in Brazil. Before that no one knew or played these games. In fact, one of the oldest football club in Brazil still retains its English name. All the clubs opened by the British had football and cricket fields. Grdually, cricket vanished from Brazil and was replaced by rugby in many clubs.

 

Ekta says:

February 24,2010 at 09:42 AM IST

Great article. Now we know why Brazil plays such beautiful football.

 

Sukev says:

February 24,2010 at 09:43 AM IST

Brazil is also famous for carnival...do not tell that India should also have similar carnival... football is football and cricket is cricket..if you want to love football love it... but do not talk bad of cricket..

 

Flavia says:

February 24,2010 at 09:43 AM IST

Thanks for such a good article on Brazil. I love my country's football team because they really represent Brazil.

 

Gizza says:

February 24,2010 at 09:45 AM IST

Kabaddi, an indigenous sport, contains far more physical contact than soccer/football. Kho Kho is less physical but at least it is more physical than some other sports borrowed from the Poms/Britishers like cricket and Water Polo.

Your biased descriptions of Brazil are becoming quite tiring. You know Indians have very little country like Brazil and you are using this to lower self-esteem within the country via propaganda.

Why don't you tell them about Lei Áurea? For those who don't know, it was the law that abolished slavery in Brazil in 1888. Brazil happened to be the last country in the Americas to formally abolish the practice, even some 20 years after the United States.

Also Brazil only returned to full democracy in 1985 following Jose Sarney's assumption to power. It that sense Brazil reminds me more of a Bangladesh or Pakistan. India during its period of independence has only once flirted with dictatorship (Indira Gandhi and emergency).

Oh and have you also considered that India's reluctance to play physical sports derives from ethical principles such as ahimsa (would Mahatma Gandhi, a Jain or a Buddhist ever slide tackle and in the process hurt another person?)

NOTE: I don't intend to demean Brazil. I have studied its history and culture for some time and it truly is a fascinating country, just as India is. However this does not give Shobhan Saxena the right to be biased.

 

GS says:

February 24,2010 at 09:45 AM IST

Shobhan, I agree with you totally. but what we can do? we cant dump cricket and start playing football all of a sudden. the south americans have honed their skills over decades. maybe if we start now, we can qualify for the world cup in next century

 

Indian says:

February 24,2010 at 09:50 AM IST

INDIA CAN PLAY THE WORLD CUP IN 2014. HOW? BY HOSTING IT. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY INDIA WOULD EVER PLAY THE WORLD CUP.

(Reply to Indian)- dev says:

February 24,2010 at 02:45 PM IST

U r a genius... give u r idea to govt. of India....But what will happen once India plays top teams in world cup. Surely we will be eliminated from the first round but imagine what will be the margin of defeat in each match. May be 10-0 or 15-0. Its better India should not try their hands at anything like that...

 

VIKRAM says:

February 24,2010 at 09:52 AM IST

Cricket morons, wake up. there is more to the world of sport than this glorified gilli-danda

 

Captain says:

February 24,2010 at 10:06 AM IST

who cares who plays better football or better cricket? Are we good at anything at all?

(Reply to Captain)- Nitin says:

February 24,2010 at 11:56 AM IST

ARE WE could be resolved with AM I

work on that and we will be good at everything i suppose

 

Sid says:

February 24,2010 at 10:15 AM IST

Walk in the park!!! That's the best description of cricket. can you imagine any other game where there is a lunch break??? and a break for tea??? cricket is picnic compared to football, hockey or any other real sports.

(Reply to Sid)- shashikant says:

March 01,2010 at 01:58 PM IST

that's what i mean...in cricket u have to play whole day(which i am sure you won't be able to do without eating something).....it's not just a one and half hour rush of adrenaline.Now you know why cricket is more challenging as a sport.Ask brazil to play cricket and they will know what it takes to swing your arms and run whole day.Get a life dude. ;)

 

Singh is King says:

February 24,2010 at 10:16 AM IST

CRICKET IS LADIES' GAME... REAL MEN PLAY HOCKEY!!!

 

Nitin says:

February 24,2010 at 10:20 AM IST

Well..as an football lover who lost all interest in cricket, i find it un-fair to blame Cricket as that is most suitable sport to be played in our sub-continental conditions.
Climate plays a huge part in one's desire to play a sport. While Cricket is so popular cause it is played in every corner of our country but i cant imagine us playing football as it requires lot of running and with our climate, myself ,as a common guy, can last for atmost half an hour(while i can play cricket for whole day).

EPL is most watched league of all but we see players move to spain cause the weather is really pleasant comparitively(well..you may argue the desire of players to play in better team).

I have no idea whats the weather is like in Brazil but surely its not that harsh.

Terrain,weather,lack of know-how(basically football is kick..kick that damn ball for people over here), lack of marketting(took a CHAK-DE to let people know hockey exist..sad thing they now think its a sport for ladies)

 

Nitin says:

February 24,2010 at 10:22 AM IST

and btw one cant just jump into world-cup,

there are loads of qualifying matches for seeded-teams and we are not even seeded so it will take some time.

Instead of criticising, go watch a indian league match..that would help add some bucks and motivation to the sport you are so concerned.

 

Allan says:

February 24,2010 at 10:23 AM IST

Catchy Title...pleas mention what 'CUP' in TITLE...There are so many...chai ka cup, cricket cup, hockey cup...

(Reply to Allan)- Sid says:

February 24,2010 at 08:29 PM IST

didnt know that there is a world cup for chai. please enlighten us about it.

 

vik says:

February 24,2010 at 10:31 AM IST

Shobhan, you are a moron, Sir. Or you had too many during the game.

By extension of your logic, Tiger Woods took up Golf because he did not want to work hard! or Kallis must be a lazy South African; Macgrath a bum Aussie! Poor Vishwanath Anand - he went as far as to choose a game where he does not even have to get up from his chair - and best of all, no physical contact absolutely. Am sure his pious Brahmin mother had these things in mind when she introduced him to Chess, isn't it?

Grow up. Connecting popularity of cricket to national traits (hard work) or social phenomenon (caste system) is pure buffoonery. We love cricket because we are good at it (and personally I think it is way better than rooting for EPL/Brazil/whatever in football when your national team is worth nothing - like in Bangladesh or Singapore). Had Ramesh Krishnan or Vijay Amritraj won a few grand slams, you would have been writing this article about tennis. But alas, no physical contact in tennis also.

BTW, why are you so interested in physical contact? Just a thought.

(Reply to vik)- dev says:

February 24,2010 at 02:42 PM IST

well said

 

gautam says:

February 24,2010 at 10:47 AM IST

Two points:
1. We should ask for 33% reservations in the Football World Cup. That way India might qualify. Mayavati may support this.
2. Shobhan forget this crap about cricket and football. Please tell us more about more important things from Brazil like postage stamp bikini, Carnivaal, Body paint and the hot women on Copa Cabanna. Then you see how everyone who reads your blog agrees with you.

 

J. Jayaraman says:

February 24,2010 at 11:02 AM IST

Sports lovers of other sports in India should stop forthwith their cricket bashing. In fact the cheapest game is football and unfortunately this is not popular in India and blaming cricket is not the answer. Let the critics think positively and make suiggestions to make football popular.

 

sukev says:

February 24,2010 at 11:07 AM IST

Dear Shobhan
Good that u did not go to Greenland...

(Reply to sukev)- Satya says:

February 24,2010 at 03:40 PM IST

good that you are rotting in india

(Reply to Satya)- sukev says:

February 25,2010 at 01:25 PM IST

who says...may be your mind ...

 

ramen says:

February 24,2010 at 11:16 AM IST

sometimes 2 much analysis is bad for health...yes cricket used 2 be played by the upper class in the past...but now it is a mass game...I am also saddened by our non performance in other games but there is no need 2 blame cricket for it...T20 is as demanding as football & Test cricket is a real test of endurance over 5 days...

 

San says:

February 24,2010 at 11:25 AM IST

How naive of the author to conclude that Indians took to cricket (which was supposedly thrown to us as a choice by the British) because of cast issues. Want to know how he arrived at such an opinion. Also what makes him think that cricket does not have any body contact with the rest of the team players. Really funny to know that admiring the game of football played in Brazil has also connections to the caste system in India - directly or indirectly. This is one of the favorite sports that we Indians have got used to for sure

 

Venkatesh Sridhar says:

February 24,2010 at 12:16 PM IST

Shoban,
There are many things that divide India and Indians - caste, sub caste, sub sub caste, religion, region, language, city, etc. There is no dearth for things that divide India.

Cricket is the only thing that truly unifies India. India crashes out of World Cup and people are sad. When India wins, everyone celebrates, no one gives a shit who hit the winning run a muslim or a hindu or a sikh or a christian.

When Irfan Pathan took a hat trick against Pakistan he was a hero, no one gave a shit about his religion, his background (poor, ethnic plus his father is a cleric). We all were happy that he took a hat trick that too against Pakistan. When Mohd. Azharuddin became the captain, no one raised an eyebrow and his background was definitely not upper middle class or even middle class.

I am not saying that cricket or India is above criticism, it is not. But, if it ain't constructive or atleast logical criticism then its just whining.

 

ravi says:

February 24,2010 at 12:55 PM IST

I care about football just as much as those Argentinians do about cricket...to each country, it's own favorite game. Why can't the author understand such a simple thing.

 

Karthik M says:

February 24,2010 at 01:04 PM IST

It is extremely sad to read the comments of the article, while I am not sure if the author has either played football or cricket ever in his life, despite that, he has chosen to bring in the caste equations into something I seriously doubt any of our sportsmen would have thought this way

One of the reasons why we would never qualify for the football world cup is just this, the first thing is to stop seeing everthing with a casteist point of view earlier it was the upper caste against the lower caste, now that has been reversed

Football is a team game and the team wins or loses the game, unless we Indians start seeing ourselves as one we may never do that

The second reason why we would not make it to the world cup ever is lack of interest in the game itself, how many of us would watch a football game when cricket is on

If you want to be in the world cup finals it is important that football share the space with cricket eqally and for that we require people with genuine love for the game and not people who view everything with a casteist lense or people who are interested in power

 

Rolando says:

February 24,2010 at 01:46 PM IST

Indians are just glory-hunters they just love cricket because it over-hyped by cruel money making pricks(Media,Businessmen).Indians are shameless people they only support when someone is successful unlike other countries which encourage each and every sports regardless of their achievement.Shame on Indians, Shame shame.Learn from us,Brazil World champions in Football,Volleyball,F1(felipe massa),Olympics(15 medals)

(Reply to Rolando)- ShankarNarayanan says:

February 24,2010 at 03:54 PM IST

Mr.Rolando
Please enjoy your team's success.Congratulations but you dont have to criticize India for it. We know what we are good at and we will keep doing that. India was a powerhouse hockey team till the rules were twisted to accomodate physical skills rather than artistic stick work in which Indians and Pakistanis excelled. India is a chess power house where brains are reqd. India is a cricket power house where a lot of skill, patience and mental strength is required and we are the champs in that now. We may not be good in other sports but we are such a poor nation that money is required to be spent for meeting basic needs that sports will take a back seat. So you be happy with what you have and we are happy with our cricket,chess and hockey success. Dont use words like pricks on the net. First learn to behave in a common forum.

(Reply to Rolando)- AintOverYet says:

February 25,2010 at 04:06 AM IST

Who the Hell wants the Stupid Game like Soccer. They run like head cut-off chickens for 90 min and score is 0-0 and they all go home happy saying it was good game. No wonder Americans despise the Soccer game or called it Girl Sport.

 

Dev says:

February 24,2010 at 02:41 PM IST

This is one of the most disgusting article I have ever read. The writer has totally messed up the facts to justify his view. How can cricket be related to caste and color? True it was played by nawabs and wealthy people in the past. But it is not now. Now everyone in India plays cricket whether he belongs to a slum or some posh colony. When I used to play cricket, their were children from all section of the society-rich and poor, upper caste and lower caste. Never did we judge any player by his standing in the society. Every team use to vie for the best player no matter who he is. And I know that this is the fact everywhere.

It is funny how the success of football in Brazil is attributed to it being played by the slum dwellers by the writer. The real reason is that brazil is a sporting nation and people their are passionate about football. In India we are passionate about about cricket. And that's why we are one of the best teams in the world.

But I share the writers concern about India not being good in other sports. I think we need to create a sports culture. The best players needed to be groomed right from childhood. And for that we need world class facilities and coaches. World class sporting acadamies need to be established in India. Cricket bashing will not work.

(Reply to Dev)- Arvind says:

February 24,2010 at 03:38 PM IST

how naive? you live in a bubble man.

 

ShankarNarayanan says:

February 24,2010 at 03:48 PM IST

I completely disagree with the author that cricket is a walk in the park. Cricket demands great efforts from the mental and physical side. Imagine a hard ball hurtling at you at 150 km/hour from just 22 yards across. Imagine a batsman concentrating for hours together, running between wickets, analysing the game status, changing the rate of scoring accordingly, imagine the wicket keeper who has to do at least 540 plus sit ups in a day of cricket. Who are you trying to fool that cricket is a walk in the park.
If you like football, just sit back and watch it. We are not stopping you. And I just cant imagine you bringing caste,class and creed into this. In my village in deep south of tamilnadu which is a one street village, boys play cricket with all the enthusiasm that you have observed in Brazil. There was no caste except that all were children.
So refrain from writing something just for the heck of it and dont try to bring in something which is totally unrelated to sport- CASTE/CLASS

 

Joel says:

February 24,2010 at 04:09 PM IST

People !! the guy's got an opinion...and he's entitled to it... everyone's expected to be educated enuf to understand we hav a thing called freedom of speech in india and mature enuf to take criticism with dignity... ( i mean this strictly for those ppl who have been abusing the poor blogger left write n centre )

 

ram says:

February 24,2010 at 04:13 PM IST

saxena needs to do some research. the reason brazilians play football is because working class laborers from england went there and introduced it to the locals. the english in india were almost entirely middle/upper class and played cricket as such that is why it is the national sport unfortunately.

 

Joel says:

February 24,2010 at 04:30 PM IST

People !! the guy's got an opinion...and he's entitled to it... everyone's expected to be educated enuf to understand we hav a thing called freedom of speech in india and mature enuf to take criticism with dignity... ( i mean this strictly for those ppl who have been abusing the poor blogger left write n centre )

 

Manish says:

February 24,2010 at 05:08 PM IST

Excell

 

Mahesh Gupta says:

February 24,2010 at 06:39 PM IST

Author has no Idea what he is talking about..How he can say cricket divide this country? Completely eye bashing article..I was just watching India south Africa match on television with crowd in south India and every one was just praying ,clapping, shouting for Sachin's double century..no cast,creed,region,language difference was there..And for your information Sachin Tendulkar is not a brahmin.

(Reply to Mahesh Gupta)- Manohar says:

February 26,2010 at 08:25 PM IST

I agree with you but just one correction. Sachin Tendulkar is Gaud Saraswat Brahmin (GSB)

 

Pavan says:

February 24,2010 at 06:55 PM IST

I pity your lack of creativity - Your answer to when will India qualify for world cup should have been "an year or 2 earlier than Brazil qualifying for cricket world cup".
I agree Indian football needs to improve - but being cynical about it, is certainly not going to help, is it ??

(Reply to Pavan)- KK says:

February 24,2010 at 08:33 PM IST

being hopelessly optimistic is not going to help either. we need to be realistic and accept that we are not good at games and sports

 

aLEX says:

February 24,2010 at 08:25 PM IST

SHAME ON INDIANS WHO ARE NOTHING BUT GLORY HUNTERS.LEARN FORM US WE SUPPORT EACH AND EVERY SPORT IN OUR COUNTRY,WE DON'T LOOK AT ACHIEVEMENTS LIKE YOU GREEDY PEOPLE DO.SHAME NEVER SEEN SUCH A NATION

 

pri says:

February 24,2010 at 08:46 PM IST

The author seems to love making comparisons wherever he goes.If u are comparing Brazil with India,football and cricket will be main point, but why do we need comparison at first place.Some millions of miles and some five continents separates both countries...if English is spoken in India and Spanish in Brazil,it does mean English is better than Spanish or vise-verse. Mr. Author try to learn to accept changes.Your blog is completely immature and pathetic to read.

(Reply to pri)- GS says:

February 24,2010 at 09:27 PM IST

They speak Portuguese in Brazil and not Spanish. Learn some basic facts about other countries before making a comment. No wonder frogs-in-the-well like you love cricket so much.

 

raj says:

February 24,2010 at 09:59 PM IST

instead of blaming foot ball player or game you should encourage them,our national game is hockey but no one is giving importance is that fare to the hockey player's or game,i hope one day these games will also be popular in india as cricket.jai hind

 

Giridhar Majhi says:

February 24,2010 at 11:05 PM IST

Shobhan, why are you trying to rake up caste and class issues in cricket. Don't you know there is no caste problem in India? The relations between the castes are so good that when the SC/STs are given job reservations, the upper caste people welcome it. When the OBCs were gievn job reservation by Mandal Commission, thousands of upper caste people came out on streets to celebrate the good news. On the issue of reservation in higher education too, the upper caste people have the same thinking as the lower caste people. In politics too, India has overcome caste completely. All elections are fought on issues of national and international importance and there is no place for caste in Indian politics. Yet, I am surprised that you think India is divided on caste lines. India has also overcome all class issues. The rich and poor live in complete harmony. The poor accept with gratitude whatever crumbs the rich throw at them. The rich pay the poor very well. In fact, the Indian workers are as good as best paid in the whole world. We dont see any poverty or slums in India anymore. Yet, you are talking about class division. Cricket is our religion, beyond caste and class because there is no caste and class issues in India. Yet, you are talking about it.

(Reply to Giridhar Majhi)- Gaurav Bhargava says:

February 24,2010 at 11:14 PM IST

booooooh majhi!!!

(Reply to Gaurav Bhargava )- Giridhar Majhi says:

February 24,2010 at 11:43 PM IST

Gaurav, you got nothing to say now, just booing like a stupid buffalo. Pity

(Reply to Giridhar Majhi)- Mitul says:

February 25,2010 at 05:48 PM IST

Man...do you live in India...no caste,slums,poverty...sounds eutopian to me.:-)

(Reply to Giridhar Majhi)- Dipesh says:

May 31,2010 at 01:02 PM IST

Were you drunk or high while writing this...no poverty....best paid labourers....complete harmony

 

parth says:

February 24,2010 at 11:45 PM IST

a very funny article indeed. football sure unites people. esp the fans pelting beer bottles at each and creating havoc on streets after every football match.
100s of people get killed or injured every year due to the "unifying effect" of football hooliganism.

 

Ranjit K says:

February 25,2010 at 01:36 AM IST

India is not a sports society. In football even countries like Iraq and Afghanistan can beat India. Yes, it is a shame but reflects India's status as a sporting nation. India is only playing even Hockey WC because it is the host.

In Hockey, India was at the top until more and more nations started playing hockey seriously.

But having said that, India first needs to provide basic human dignity to its citizens before worrying about sports. Yes, I am talking about clean air, water, access to toilets, no terrorism...

 

jageera says:

February 25,2010 at 02:00 AM IST

mr. journalist...

q. no. 1... when did brazil win cricket world cup ?

q. no. 2 ... why should indians who like to play cricket, suddenly become brazilian-like and start playing football ? why should our identity be defined the same way as brazilians ?

q. no 4... get a bit of history right between the beers in the carnival.. i dont need to explain this why brazilians play soccer and indians play cricket. think for 1 minute straight.

q. no. 4.. how many times has the author of this blog played cricket for a whole day. sitting in front of the computer you cannot comment on fitness. What are your opinions about how fit a fast bowlers should be for example?

some people brought in some ridiculous caste angle to it ( citing even the historian Ramachandra Guha )... he may be saying this, and this may have been true when indians started playing cricket, but now the idea is ridiculous... just look around.. cricket is played in india every where.. one the damn roads even.. and all the rot about it being a no-contact sport is rubbish.. and only comes from people who havent really played.. only watched old videos of englishmen playing mollycoddle cricket and drinking tea later.

cheers

(Reply to jageera)- parth says:

February 25,2010 at 10:11 PM IST

hi i did not quite get your q3 on beers in the carnival. i am inquisitive. can u please shed some light on it?

(Reply to jageera)- CHRIS says:

March 02,2010 at 03:31 AM IST

Have you played professional cricket?

(Reply to jageera)- Pradeep says:

June 12,2010 at 12:04 AM IST

its not just a Q abt Brazil. The whole world plays soccer. All countries. If you want to compete, do it where it matters. Next, you'd suggest we play gilli danda with Bhutan.

 

Arvind says:

February 25,2010 at 09:14 AM IST

If physical contact is the basic reason [in cricket too one sweats and has to work hard] then why aren't Indians doing well in golf.
The columnist has made his mind, drawn a conclusion and then fits odd facts to justify it

 

Dhanesh says:

February 25,2010 at 11:19 AM IST

More than 1 billion population and not 15 good enough players.

Well that's a good question to start off. I followed cricket when i was in 2nd standard started following/playing football 8 years ago.

Now i rate football more than any other sport.

How many people follow indian foot ball league?

Support and empathize

(Reply to Dhanesh)- parth says:

February 25,2010 at 10:11 PM IST

and even though hardly no one follows india football league,indian club fball is not without drama. infact club fball in india is reeked with politics.

 

Multi Wing says:

February 25,2010 at 11:51 AM IST

Football requires stamina, speed and style and all these elements we lack.

 

Basant Singh says:

February 25,2010 at 01:35 PM IST

Sheer imagination! Cricket unites India and not the other way.

 

Ashutosh S.V says:

February 25,2010 at 03:43 PM IST

Guess the Writer seems to be quite influenced by the South American Life Style..... Probably Brazil should suit him better if he is so fascinated.. I just wished that such people get their facts right before writing things about sports... True that cricket does derive more mileage as compared to other games. However Cricketers do work equally hard as compared to other sports persons too.. ( Mind you I am stay in Goa and regularly play Football, even attend football games Local, Club as well as National)....So I am not biased... But it would be better for such writers to focus on something useful to write on instead of comparing with other Countries...... The irony of fate is that the Writer himself displays deep sense/feeling of inferiority complex trying to compare two different cultures...... It was the British who introduced Cricket to India and the Portuguese and the Spanish who introduced soccer aka football to South America....The State of Goa where the Portuguese ruled till 1961 still believes in playing Soccer as opposed to Cricket......

So Mr. Shobhan Saxena please next time you write please get your facts right before penning down your baseless thoughts on us.......

I hope you read comments on your columns...... I look forward to your reply

 

Avinash says:

February 25,2010 at 04:15 PM IST

Dear Shoban,
I watch and encourage cricket because I like it..and so millions of my countrymen. I dont look at factors like physical contact or easy to play etc.
Why should one sport have to expand at anothers expense? If there were good worldclass footballers in India, it might have become popular. Just because you like football, doesnt mean that you start bad mouthing cricket! Agreed you are in Brazil now and have taken a liking to that country..but what makes you think that everything that they do is nice and everything we do is wrong? Your point of view is very crictical of everything in India and the way you have presented it in this blog is dismal. I hope to see some meaningful pieces in future.
Regards
Avinash

 

S Banerjee says:

February 25,2010 at 05:46 PM IST

This is a very funny article...cricket divides India???Sir...when india won T20 WC, didnt the poor and BW class people feel happy, proud and cheered for the team? It may be true that other sports like atheletics, football, hockey, etc. should be promoted. But I disagree with the comment that its still a rich man's game. May be Golf and Tennis are...but not cricket. And cummon man...we are the number 1 side in the world in cricket (atleast somewhere we are at the top). So instead of bashing the game, may be you should try playing it. As far as India's football WC participation is concerned, thats a rare possibility even if cricket is banned completely. And btw...who stops people from playing football? The government has no laws in favour of cricket and against football. Its just we are not good at it. Period.

 

Dinanath says:

February 25,2010 at 08:16 PM IST

just a simple rejoinder if i may, when were the british in brazil??? If I remember right, Brazil was occupied by Portugese who were and are avid football players and thus the introduction to football in Amazonia. So, when did English introduce the "Gentlemen's Game"

(Reply to Dinanath)- Shobhan says:

February 26,2010 at 01:01 AM IST

Brazil was a Portuguese colony but till the 19th Century, all colonial powers -- the British, Dutch, French and Spanish were active there, trying to get a foothold. The British missionaries, tradesmen and officers, active in Brazil, introduced the two games -- cricket and football -- in Brazil. Before that no one knew or played these games. In fact, one of the oldest football club in Brazil still retains its English name. All the clubs opened by the British had football and cricket fields. Grdually, cricket vanished from Brazil and was replaced by rugby in many clubs. In Portuguese, football is called 'futebol' (pronounced fu-chi-bol-e).

 

parth says:

February 25,2010 at 10:17 PM IST

its not that we cannot be good at fball. its just that we dont give a damn. spend 90mnts to see a couple of goals. this is such a waste of time.

 

Kaif says:

February 26,2010 at 01:02 AM IST

Great article. Bitter truth. It hurts...

 

Gurvinder says:

February 26,2010 at 01:09 AM IST

Shobhan, very good article. Congratulations. I am a Toronto-based scholar, working on a thesis on caste and sports. The interesting thing is how in the past 10 years the dynamics of cricket in India has changed. I call it the Mandalisation of cricket. The Brahmins are on the way out. The Indian team is now dominated by Jats - Sehwag, Nehra, Yuvraj, Harbhajan, Gambhir; and Muslims - Zaheer, Irfan, Yusuf, and Munaf. It's no coincidence that the rise of Jats and other intermediate castes like Yadav, Kurmis and Reddys in politics and their domination of sports field has happened almost simultaneously. Historian Ramchandra Guha has already written a lot about this. Thanks for bringing this debate into the blogosphere. Your post and the reactions have been very helpful to me. India was and remains a caste society, that is the only social reality in India.

(Reply to Gurvinder)- Kaif says:

February 26,2010 at 08:15 PM IST

Gurvinder, here is some information you might find useful. Jats are now dominating cricket just not in India but in Pakistan as well. There was a time, cricket in Pakistan was played and dominated by the upper class Pathans. Now, out of 11 players there are at least 7 Jats from Punjab. You might like to include this information in your thesis.

(Reply to Kaif)- Sanjay says:

February 26,2010 at 11:26 PM IST

Gurvinder, doesn't this apply to hockey as well. In both India and Pakistan, the game is dominated by Jats from Punajb. Give it a thought.

 

Siddhant says:

February 26,2010 at 01:15 AM IST

Why cant people disagree with each other without being abusive?

 

Ashu V says:

February 26,2010 at 01:20 AM IST

I read somewhere that when the game of cricket was played in England, the lords used to bat and the servants used to bowl and field. In India, the kings and nawabs played the game in the same manner. The upper middle class and upper castes adopted the same attitude. That's why we produced all kinds of batsman but bad fast bowlers and pathetic fielders. Shobhan is right fielding standards have improved with the inclusion of Muslims and non-Brahmins.

 

abhilash says:

February 26,2010 at 01:56 PM IST

i dont think cricket divides india, on the contrary i think only CRICKET and WAR unites the public and the politicians.Football hasnt done well in india not because of lack of public support and talented players, its because of lack of organisational support from the govn.
Also to say that cricket is a no contact sport is purely absurd.

 

abhilash says:

February 26,2010 at 02:10 PM IST

i dont think cricket divides india, on the contrary i think only CRICKET and WAR unites the public and the politicians.Football hasnt done well in india not because of lack of public support and talented players, its because of lack of organisational support from the govn.
Also to say that cricket is a no contact sport is purely absurd.

 

Radhika says:

February 27,2010 at 08:40 AM IST

I think most people disagree with the author for the sake of it, they don't really have a counterpoint and facts to back up their jingoistic claims. I dont know why are Indian men so crazy about cricket, but we women always knew it was a boring game that doesnt need any real sporting skills.

(Reply to Radhika)- Nupur says:

February 28,2010 at 03:58 AM IST

well said, Radhika. cricket is a game for stupid indian men who are good at nothing.

(Reply to Nupur)- Radhika says:

February 28,2010 at 07:05 AM IST

Absolutely right. I went to see a cricket match in Delhi last year. There were only men in the stadium, thousands of them. They were all boorish, ill-mannered hooligans. It made me wonder why cricket is called a gentlemen's game.

(Reply to Radhika)- Amit says:

June 19,2010 at 12:09 PM IST

I completely agree with you Radhika.Cricket is boring,lazy,less competitive,least popular,rubbish,trash game...The saddest thing is that we are still sleeping.We are totally devoted to a single game which is not a popular even in a single continent.Even in Asia China,Japan,Korea(Most progressed nations)...prefers football.

 

Raj says:

March 01,2010 at 04:37 AM IST

The author thinks the British introduced soccer in Brazil. I have heard of the atmosphere in the Maracana, and seen the passion of the brazilians for soccer, and may be the reason why this blog contains mostly nonsense. Cricket is a non-contact sport, less hard work required...where did he get that from? Most soccer stars in Brazil have come from the low economy classes. All you need is an open space [and there is lots of it in Brazil], and a football [how expensive is that?] Contrast with cricket, with all the gear you require to become a professional, and you will see why they have more soccer fever.

(Reply to Raj)- Shobhan says:

March 01,2010 at 06:36 AM IST

Brazil was a Portuguese colony but till the 19th Century, all colonial powers -- the British, Dutch, French and Spanish were active there, trying to get a foothold. The British missionaries and tradesmen active in Brazil introduced the two games -- cricket and football -- in Brazil. Before that no one knew or played these games. In fact, one of the oldest football club in Brazil still retains its English name. All the clubs opened by the British had football and cricket fields. Grdually, cricket vanished from Brazil and was replaced by rugby in many clubs.

 

Mumbai says:

March 01,2010 at 10:19 AM IST

This author is totally biased in his views. I have been following his columns on many a issues for a quite a while now n i always feel a huge bias n sense of negativity in his writings.

 

shashikant says:

March 01,2010 at 03:20 PM IST

"The Brazilians took to football and the caste-ridden Indian society, afraid of polluting their bodies by coming in contact with low castes, adopted cricket -- a complete non-contact sport."

^where did u get this kind of enlightenment,kindly let me know.You must be having some evidence to support your facts.Right?Also,you did not tell us that why brazillians did not take up cricket.Was it just the attraction of physical contact that made them take up football.Or is it just some type of fantasy of yours,that makes you jealous of seeing others playing "touching" game. :P

 

satyajit says:

March 01,2010 at 05:35 PM IST

as a football lover i would love my country to qualify for the world cup may nt be in 2014 may be in 2018 or 2022.yes in our country people likes cricket more thn football tat's also a reason but stll we can support football.present coach BOB is doing a very gud job, frst of all before thnkng of world cup we frst must focus on AFC 2011 thr we hv to do gud, we sud establish ourself as a strong footballing nations among asian countries. we sud play more n more international friendlies, 1 sad thnk is tat we stll dt hv a gud proper facility football stadium this is really very sad.our I-league standard sud be improved in terms of telecast also.I would our govt n aiff to build a proper football stadium.this vision asia projct is doing very well in my state manipur but i really dnt knw abt othr state, state like kerala Goa r also doing very well in term of football.our players sud improve thr physically tat we shw whn we played against syria, players like surkumar n gouramangi cud challenge syrian players but rest of our team cudn't tat clearly tells we lacked more in physicall.we also need a very gud strikers to replace bhutia rennedy cause aft 2011 AFC they may seek for retirement.but stll we hv improved our football very much.GUD LUCK GUYS nw they r in dubai playng friendlies.

(Reply to satyajit)- Cristina says:

March 06,2010 at 06:10 PM IST

How nice, it would be nice that the soccer team
India will classify to play here in Brazil in 2014!

 

satyajit says:

March 01,2010 at 05:40 PM IST

1 more thnk we really dn't need to compare with brazil in term of football. thr is no issue at all we will work hard n someday in near future will qualify for world cup.if u r sayng brazil is gud in football thn we r the best in cricket, if tey hv pele ronaldo we hv the best player sachin, sehwag dhoni.so thr is no need to compare with brazil.we sud go for traning in brazil argentina it will help in our football.

(Reply to satyajit)- skyhigh says:

March 02,2010 at 04:32 AM IST

Honestly this article really makes sense.We are a nation which is 2nd largest population in the world.Yet look at china they are in the top 5 in the medal tally in olympic.they have even started competing in winter olympics..Time and again we keep comparing ourselves with pakistan which has earned nothing in other sports and mind you pakistan in 1/4 the size of india which is like the whole of north india..Cricket is being played by 7 nations now roped in bangladesh and even canada(canada has all D class players) and kenya and holland too.ICC is roping countries just to make the world cup look big..cmon give me a break..out of these 7 nations..sri lanks,india,pakistan only focus on cricket realistically while australia,NZ,england and west indies concentrate on many other sports(proof look at the olympic medal tally).cricket is not even considered a serious sport in these countries.just imagine if the whole of these countries would concentrate in cricket like india we would be no where.So what is this the big fuss about cricket.We talk about american baseball but USA is the number 1 sporting nation in many other sports for number of years.if canada is number 3 in the medal tally winter sports .Australia is in the top 10 in the medals tally in olympic.its only bollywood and cricket that we keep harping about every year and we keep comparing ourselves to pakistan in every aspect whether its sports or economy.Look at the chinese they are ahead in every sport.they have a population quite similar to ours,size wise pretty close..then why are we different the reason being we are lazy and corrupt and yes we are playing a very lazy sport and the only sport,dont even compare the tennis(only doubles nothing in singles which is the main event) and the only gold we won in the olympic after 1982..thats not statistics.
Stop comparing everything to pakistan(which is economically weak,population wise 1/4 of india,size wise again 1/4).Start comparing ourselves with winner countries.

 

Cristina says:

March 03,2010 at 04:48 AM IST

Hello I am Brazilian, and wanted to see the soccer team play a World India, would be so cool!
And yes football together all colors and classes of people in Brazil.
I see that you are in Indian preoculpa much about colors, there is prejudice in the world, but in Brazil we learn to live well.
Talk to people for who they are, not by their race.
I loved your post because the twist FLAMENGO ♥

 

Ramki says:

March 03,2010 at 09:49 AM IST

I don't know how the author just sits and writes that cricket doesn't require physical work. I agree upto some extent that people like cricket more than football in India. This is not just because it requires less stamina and physical strength and it differentiates rich from poor. How many times you played cricket and how many times did u asked for caste of the other players? They like it because it's everybody's religion here . I agree football requires more stamina than you require in cricket, but cricket is an art where you cant play with sheer hard physical work. It demands you more concentration , stamina, strength and its more of a fine art. Just look at the innings Sachin played in the recent match against SA in which he scored a fabulous double century. Can you imagine how much one need to concentrate? Do you have an idea of a fast bowlers stamina? Look at Steyn, he bowls at a pace of 145+ everyball steaming in hard and the next over he is seen diving all over the ground to save a single run....You can't compare two different sports and cultures and decide which one is better? it seems absurd and your lack of rational thinking.

Yes, India may not qualify for a football WC but its not because of the lack of talented players, Because there is hardly any support from the organisations.

 

Pokerstars Blog says:

March 17,2010 at 08:00 PM IST

I think is possible, i am from Chile, and my country will go to this worldcup, we are not an excellent football team, we just have a very good coach.Hope India will go sometime, i am sure of that.

My 2 cents.

 

gary says:

April 03,2010 at 10:19 PM IST

india can never play any sport rather than cricket tell me how many boxers india have so far none how many footballers none it's nt any1's fault it's our own fault if we want india to be good in football then we should stop promoting cricket we need a proper league system proper stadiums good facilities for players cricket is not a sport 4 me it's just a ladies game u don't have to be proper fit to play cricket but to play football u have to be fit i went to france and i asked someone if he know about any indian footbaler and he started laughing. we should play football stop promoting cr

 

Sameer says:

April 28,2010 at 02:26 PM IST

This is BS. Nothing sad about it. I will ask, will Brazil ever qualify for Cricket WC? No. And surely not for WC 2015.
BS with football being physical and stuff, Cricket is equally tiring if not more.

(Reply to Sameer)- dipesh says:

May 31,2010 at 12:48 PM IST

lol

 

rpn says:

April 28,2010 at 08:20 PM IST

If cricket is walk in park compared to football, is chess sleeping in A/C? Physical work is not a necassary scale to measure a game/sport's greatness. Cricket also unites slums, middle as well as upper classes when India plays. Even in the villages, ppl just take a ball and a stick and start playing.. It doesnt even require a stadium. Totally wrong concept. Its just incidentally that top5 top10 etc countries dont play cricket. What if they play cricket, they wil get out of the top5 or top10? There's simply no connection!

 

Bajaj says:

April 29,2010 at 10:12 PM IST

I love football, i like cricket too. No necessity to say football is the best and to criticize cricket(even if i agree with quite a bit of the article)

 

h.mani says:

May 11,2010 at 07:27 PM IST

I READ MOST OF THE BLOGS,VERY FEW PEOPLE HAVE REAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE NATURE OF SPORT.IT IS VERY COPLEX,TO BE GOOD IN ANY SPORT,TO THE LEVEL OF INTERNATIONAL STANDARD,YOU GOT TO BE VERY GOOD.NOW ALL GAMES ARE NOT EQUALLY GRUELLING,SOME MORE,SOME LESS,IT IS A MATTER OF NATURAL SELECTION YOU WILL TAKE TO SOMETHING IN WHICH YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO EXCELL,IF INDIAND TOOK TO BOXING(IGNORE THE BOLLYWOOD HERO,WHO MAKES PEOPLE FLY THROUGH AIR IN ONE PUNCH,IT IS BOLLYWOOD),THEY WILL GET PULVARISED BY A BLACK DUDE,IF HE TOOK TO BASKETBALL,A 6/10(AVERAGE IN NBA)PLAYER WILL MAKE A FOOL OF HIM,IN SOCCER A BRAZILLIAN WILL NOT ALLOW AN INDIAN TO TOUCH THE BALL FOR FULL 10 MINUTES,BY SHEER WIZARD OF FOOTWORK WITH BALL CONTROL,YOU CAN NOT COMPETE WITH AMERICANS IN TRACK AND FIELD,INDIAN NO CHANCE AGAINST LIKE OF FEDERER AND NADALS OF THE WORLD,SO WHAT IS LEFT,FOR DUMENATIVE,AVERAGE 5'8 GUYS TO DO IN HOT 45C WEATHER?CRICKET IS A GAME VERY SUITABLE TO MANY INDIANS,GIRLS CAN NOT DO GYMNASTIC AND FIGURE SKETTING(IN LAST WINTER OLYMPIC A CHINSE GIRL DETHRONED A RUSSIAN IN OVER ALL COMPT.),WHY,I DO NOT WANT TO GUESS,IT JUST THAT.THERE MUST BE SOME FACTORS IN PLAY,THE COLUMMNIST TRIED TO GUESS THE REASON AND VERY FEW PEOPLE WERE FAIR OR HAD OTHER WORTHWHILE IDEAS.THE FACT REMAINS A COUNTRY OF 1100 MILLION PEOPLE,THERE LOT TO BE DESIRED,AFTER ALL WHAT ARE YARD STICK?,WORLD CUP(SOCCER),GRAND SLAM TOURNAMENTS(tENNIS0 AND 4 YEAR OLYMPIC,NOW HOW HAVE YOU FAIRED,EVEN COMPARING YOURSELF WITH FEW AFRICAN,AUSTRALIA(20) MILLION POPULATION,jAPAN 50 MILLION,SOUTH KOREA ETC,LEAVE POWER HOusE CHINA,U.S,BRAZIL,GERMANY ETC,ETC,I DO NOT THINK ANSWER IS VERY GOOD.I HAVE NOT USED ONE WORD ABOUT ANYTHING ABOUT ANY PUT DOWN OF INDIA,JUST FACT,JUST USE COMMONSENSE APPROACH.hope it helps healthy debate and brings solution to national sporting uplift.

 

Niranjan says:

May 23,2010 at 08:47 PM IST

Good article! There is no doubt that there are a lot of footballing talents in India. But dont know why we are not able to exploit those talents in the correct way. Wish we would be able to support our motherland India, during a FIFA WORLD CUP! One day...

 

Samuel says:

May 27,2010 at 10:15 AM IST

for a country of over a billion people, one would have expected India to excel in more than one sport on the international level. Unfortunately that is not the case. The ONLY sport we can yap about a bit is Cricket, whcih is played by an handful of nations. To some extent cricket has killed all other sports in India. More and more youngsters are taking to it only because they look at the sport as a means to livelihood some day, because there is so much money in cricket today, unlike rest of the other sports where individuals take to it, for the sheer passion that they have for playin that game. And coming to India at the World cup football...??? not in a million chances.

 

Stalin John Manuel says:

May 27,2010 at 01:24 PM IST

There is no chance of playing in Asia Cup itself, then how they can get into world cup....Even if we reach 3000 years..India will not enter the play Asia cup. First Think about Asia cup, then we will think about World Cup.

Compare to all country, India has so many politics......India will play good politics....No one can win against politics.

 

Brian says:

May 29,2010 at 03:01 AM IST

Interesting !! The fact is Indians are not designed for sports(except cricket maybe)naturally.Qualifying for W/C is out of questions for the moment

 

ZIZOMAN says:

June 11,2010 at 04:31 PM IST

I GUESS THROUGH THIS BLOG AND THRU THE COMMENTS WE HAVE ALL IDENTIFIED OURSELVES AS TRUE INDIANS AND UNDERLINED THE REASON WHY WE ARE JUST NOT THE SPORTSMEN THE REST OF THE WORLD ARE.

THE KEY TO BECOMING A GOOD SPORTSMAN IS TO RESPECT THE SPIRIT OF THE SPORT. I AM IN LOVE WITH FOOTBALL BUT I AM QUITE PASSIONATE ABOUT CRICKET TOO.
IF THE LOGIC OF SPRT IS TO BE A CONTACT SPORT THEN SNOOKER OR BILLIARDS IS PREPOSTEROUS..SAME GOES WITH CHESS..FUNNY HOW INDIANS RULE ALL THESE SPORTS.
THE POINT IS WE HAVE TALENT IN OUR COUNTRY I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE I AM FROM KERALA AND WE LOVE FOOTBALL HERE, BRAZIL AND ARGENTINA ARE ALWAYS LOVED.
WE NEED MORE FUNDS FOR OUR GAME AND WE NEED MORE AWARENESS. THE CLASS MINDSET IS DEFINITELY A BARRIER BUT GIVE US THE TIME.
IF INDIA CAN PUT A MAN IN SPACE. THEN I HONESTLY DO NOT THINK FOOTBALL IS BEYOND OUR GRASP. WE LOVE IT GIVE US TIME AND PLEASE OH PLEASE LET'S GROW UP AND BECOME MORE SPROTSMAN LIKE NOT SILLY CHILDREN WITH STUPID OPINIONS

ADIOS

 

Pradeep says:

June 12,2010 at 12:00 AM IST

There was a time when Indian football was up there, at least in Asia. We lost the plot somewhere. Administration, foresight, planning, local league structure and how we play it... it can be fixed - but will take herculean efforts.

btw - what happened to the tata academy for football? is it still there?

 

Amit says:

June 19,2010 at 12:14 PM IST

Stop supporting cricket.It's a rubbish game.No major country plays.Even in England and Australia cricket is third graded game.People who don't find prospect in football shifts to cricket or other sports.Cricket played only one continent.Where football is everywhere,all over the world.Whether it is rich or poor country it does not matter.It's a sport for all.It does not matter where you come from.you just need a ball and a space.It's a simple yet hard working,strong physical,mental,technical
strategical sports.It's an awesome art.Just like painting in a canvass.It's dream for every country to be in the football world cup.Tell me how many people know about cricket stars.only few commonwealth countries.World does not care about what is happening in the cricketing world.World doesn't even bother about cricket world cup.Sport is such an event where participation is must.Even hockey is more popular than cricket.Brazil,Argentina are not known so much in other sports.But only because of football,the whole world divides into two to support them whenever they meet in a football match.Is that possible to think in cricket? We are not a rich country.So it's very difficult to spend adequate amount of money for football after spending such amount on cricket.It is better convert BCCI to BFCI and to promote this beautiful game in our country rather just sticking to one unpopular sport...

(Reply to Amit)- Krishna says:

June 19,2010 at 02:44 PM IST

you are soooooooooooo true. i am from Nepal here we all love Football Football Football Football Football Football Football Football Football 1 million times more Football than Cricket. Streets of Kathmandu is full of Exited and every where people gather and watch football on the big screen and talk about Brazil, Crishtiano Ronaldo, Maradona team, Ronny, Spain , South Korea (as Asian Team) etc. In office people sleep as they watch game at Night. But we hardly do so much exiting thing in Cricket World Cup even we are so close to India.

 

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