Why cant we have our own Independent Policy towards Pakistan, why we need US always to pressurise Pakistan and in the end gets nothing.

US has direct foreign policies with individual nations according to their key objectives and benefits.

We mix our US policy objectives with PAK objectives, whereas it should be economic and others issues with US with no mention of PAK/Terror. And with PAK it should be only related to J&K/Terror.

But unfortunately our ruling party is acting on policy of pacifying terror with votebank and surrendering to US in anticipation that they will help us.

India is a growing economy and US does not want us to see grow further from here, for them Headley/Kasab does not matter much.US wants Osama and distablise India, and our ruling party incidently is more interested in pacifying this terror minds to translate into their votes.

Foreign relation is a strategic game played by multiple nations as players. The objective of each player is to derive what they think would be the best possible outcome for their own country. They obviously don't care about the objectives of other players. There are lot of unknowns in this game based on the ground scenario which makes it difficult for the players to predict the outcome of any action.
The United States/Hillary Clinton care little about India or Pakistan. They care only about getting their own enemies who are on Afghan or Pakistani soil, thus preventing any further attacks on American soil. They know very well who perpetrated Mumbai attacks. They know who Dawood Ibrahim is and who is sheltering him. They just don't care. If they cared about Democracy they wouldn't have supported Musharraf.
The bottom line is that we are left to fend for ourselves. The only thing we can do is to play the game very wisely. See what incentive, pressure or black mail we can do to USA and Pakistan to get what we want.

The US has not been our friend in need even in the best of times under Republican admns.As the saying goes,there are no friends or enemies only permanent selfish interests.It is a misconception that the US is 'tilting'in our favour.Frankly we yearn for that to happen & its only a mirage.
The arrest of Mullah Baradar is a shrewd ploy since he was a via media b/w Karzai & the 'moderate'Taliban.The Pak strategy is to marginalise Karzai.Hekmatayar,one time ISI chum too is irrelevant & the present blue eyed boy is H
aqqani.In all this scheming Pak is losing sight of the aspirations of the Afghan people & ignoring the critical Hazaras too.
India must act independently with self confidence & assertiveness.Post ISAF withdrawal,the stakes will be even higher.We need to restart our ties with Pashtuns to create a buffer along the Durand Line & NWFP.The goodwill within Afghanistan must be leveraged by wooing the Hazaras who sided with Massud's NA earlier.At the same time we must widen & deepen our ties with Iran.Also with Russian acquiescence we must consider new air bases,like Farkhor,in Turkmenistan & Uzbekistan.By doing this a long term security umbrella on PAk's western borders will help India.Also the Central Asian states alongwith Iran will help in our energy needs.The only joker in this scenario is China.However the Chinese are wary of open support to Pak since the Taliban has been making inroads in the Uighur province,something the Chinese are worried about.
Finally isn't it odd that a country like US which is miles away is being looked upon by India to help solve our neighbourhood problems?We need to strengthen,deepen & broaden our ties with Nepal,B'desh,Burma & S Lanka on a mutual give & take basis ignoring past rigid historical thinking.In the long term such an approach will isolate Pak morally,economically & strategically.

The US has not been our friend in need even in the best of times under Republican admns.As the saying goes,there are no friends or enemies only permanent selfish interests.It is a misconception that the US is 'tilting'in our favour.Frankly we yearn for that to happen & its only a mirage.
The arrest of Mullah Baradar is a shrewd ploy since he was a via media b/w Karzai & the 'moderate'Taliban.The Pak strategy is to marginalise Karzai.Hekmatayar,one time ISI chum too is irrelevant & the present blue eyed boy is H
aqqani.In all this scheming Pak is losing sight of the aspirations of the Afghan people & ignoring the critical Hazaras too.
India must act independently with self confidence & assertiveness.Post ISAF withdrawal,the stakes will be even higher.We need to restart our ties with Pashtuns to create a buffer along the Durand Line & NWFP.The goodwill within Afghanistan must be leveraged by wooing the Hazaras who sided with Massud's NA earlier.At the same time we must widen & deepen our ties with Iran.Also with Russian acquiescence we must consider new air bases,like Farkhor,in Turkmenistan & Uzbekistan.By doing this a long term security umbrella on PAk's western borders will help India.Also the Central Asian states alongwith Iran will help in our energy needs.The only joker in this scenario is China.However the Chinese are wary of open support to Pak since the Taliban has been making inroads in the Uighur province,something the Chinese are worried about.
Finally isn't it odd that a country like US which is miles away is being looked upon by India to help solve our neighbourhood problems?We need to strengthen,deepen & broaden our ties with Nepal,B'desh,Burma & S Lanka on a mutual give & take basis ignoring past rigid historical thinking.In the long term such an approach will isolate Pak morally,economically & strategically.

democracy in india is nothing but dictatorship by ruling party for next 5 years once results are declared. this is the whole truth even if u may not like it. whole world politics is based on power. india does not have or show power or any spine even after dozens and hundreds of terrorist attacks, so no one gives a damn about india. simple as that. as far as this government is concerned, afzal guru is not hanged due to secular vote bank politics, even after supreme court told to hang him, then nothing remains to be said. people can draw their own conclusions...

Right from Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon to Bill Clinton and Obama, The US has always held Pakistan in high regards.Who can forget the silent mum of the Carter and Nixon government over the nuclear proliferation of Pakistan. Pakistan made their bomb fully knowing that US was aware of their plans.

We should not hope too much from the US. What US is doing is according to their interests.Why should be expect other countries to solve our problems? Pakistan is our problem, it should be handled by us.I would like to advice the PM to resume the covert actions of RAW in Pakistan, which were shut down by the I.K Gujral govt. in 1997.
Be an animal to fight an animal.

TYPICAL HINDU HATE SPEECH AGINST PAKISTAN. INDIA IS WELCOME IN AFGHANISTAN BUT NO BODY CAN UNDO PAK CONTROL HERE. BECAUSE WE SHARE TOO MUCH COMMON,pakistan suffers more then any body else, so its natural that they will opt for more control here.

Tarun - I think looking at the US to solve our problems or tackling Pak is just very naive thinking. We as Indians should just think of making India stronger econimically and militarily. We have to make India stronger and therefore able to deal any menace like Pak etc ...

Mr Vijay, You really cant blame US. They are serving their self interest of getting their Army out of AF-Pak region. If it means befriending Pak and spending a few Billions I think its a great deal for them. The question is what r we doing about it? Why cant we get the top LeT and Hizub leadership eliminated by spending a few billions and inflitrating their bases? When is India gona stop making hue and cry against nations serving thier self interest and start serving its own self interest!!

America is radically a businessman .It has nothing to do with terrorism and international profits until it affects the US interests also.I think Mr.Manmohan singh should observe this whole episode carefully and should point out our real parteners in this fight with Islamic terrorism. We need to take strong actions on our own behalf leaving the assurances given by selfish Washington.

Beggar Pakistan, being Pakistan, will gladly accept billions of dollars from India and then use them to fund more terrorists to extract more dollars, as it does from USA.

Like Bush and Armitage, USA needs to tell Pakistan in no uncertain terms what it must do or else risk being driven back to stone age. That is the only language Pakistan can understand.

Everyone needs to protect his own! The sooner we realize this, the better for all of us. Why should we depend on anyone? Much as the world is getting to be one small world, its important for us to be independent, self reliant, proactive and show off some aggression in protecting our borders, citizens and what is rightfully ours. Until we get to this point, no one will bother to give us a hearing. Nothing works like strength and killer instinct and stop being a softie

US Pak nexus to bleed India is nothing new and with Democrats in the Helm in USA this becomes a fact. Isn't it ironic that self proclaimed champion of Terror free world provides all support and strength to terror epicenter Pakistan and still claims to be fighting terror. US foreign policy has failed and this too will reaffirm that even in foreign policy 'honesty is the best policy' ahead of evil and self centered national interest. What USA must realize that hurting India will hurt its National Interest more than the benefits it can expect of deriving out of supporting Pak terror against India.

The arithmetic is simple and USA is smart not to do a silly mistake. Forward looking ambitious globalized Progressive intelligent humble value oriented liberal secular non violent democratic India or India centric global epicenter of terror a failed beggar state military ruled mock democracy of Pakistan. It is USA's choice.

very well said

The weakening islamic terror movement found a new ally with the advent of Obama. India should follow their own game plan like China does. About time we threw our weight around like China. As long as democrats are rulilng in the US, we can expect US will support Pakistan.There is a faint hope that Obama would be impeached but god knows when.

listen bro...just because you have written your address as Afghanistan doesn't mean u r an afghani.
your "typical Hindu" stand is just of a true Pakistani

USA will not dump Pakistan , no matter what. Somehow, our so called leaders fail to understand that and won't do what they need to put Pak in its place militarily. Dealing with Pak requires guts and vision that present leaders don't have. They will keep begging like a bania facing threats from goondas. Enjoy begging while losing crucial time in fixing the problem as the Indian leaders have done in the past! Good article Tarun Bhai.

more than thinking about taking control in any other country, pak should think of how to take complete control of its own state itself. Problem is that all paki minds have desires to control the world but the reality is that they don't have methods to govern their own state.

Zia-ul-Haq died in a military plane crash with other 17 or 18 generals and other military officers in Pakistan's own air space. With them there was also the American counciller in Pakistan then and lost his life. Many people doubt how America can sacrifice its own citizen that too a diplomat. Six americans died in Taj Mumnai in 26/11 terror attack. Headly is being questioned about his role in the attack. He was in India before the attacks. Why will America like his people die in terror attack any where in the world?

It unfortunate that the leftist, corrupt, opportunistic, and family centered party like congress at the helm of the nation. The History proves that congress has failed to protect the borders of India. They brought shame to 1.25 billion people minus congressmen. The nation with such lage population and resources can't fight the terrorist because their leaders are interested just to hold the power for filling up the pockets. If US can send 100,000 troops to Afghanistan, why can't India sent in Pakistan some real fighter without name to knock down the terrorists. Government of India don't care either for people or country! Come on guys the India has lost thyousand of her braves defending borders though the undecisive political leaders are at helm! Why can we afford 5,000 well trained agents work in Pakistan distroying the infrastructure of terror? I am sure they will find that many young people to sacrifice for the nation. Who cares what other people think or does. I hate commis but don't mind to take lesson from Mao's words....power comes from the barrel of the Gun. India should be democratic within the county for the people, dealing with others it shold be always my way or highway!

Diffrence between masters and slaves is,master gives the order and slaves obey them.India is like a free slave but iron chain still buckled
around his legs,he is free but he can only go so for.India has to ask usa,what time i go for s..h..i..t and where

Indias main object is to blame pakistan for everything,and try to prove the world that india is the victom. India is still crying for mumbai while indian RAW has spent trillions rupees to create hundreds of mumbai like blasts in pakistan through hired afghan
operatives.
usa use pakistan for his own purpose.one day usa will use pakistan to disintegrate and distroy india. Best for india is to forget the past,forget about usa and sit and solve its diffrences with pakistan and solve all the issues and live in pease.
JAI HOU
Every body knows indian real face i full of lies and is very ugly.
Pakistans real enemy is not talibans,its india.

Subhra wrote "Forward looking ambitious globalized Progressive intelligent humble value oriented liberal secular non violent democratic ..."
Subhra, I've been following the daily wisdoms imparted upon us by Bal, Uddhav and Raj Thackeray. Tell me if you are honest. Are these (sons of the Indian soil, genuine Indian leaders with real grass roots support) forward looking, progressive and non-violent? Even if you stretch your imagination a bit far.

Well, why does India depend on others? It does not have guts or means to take on Islamists?

I think the article concludes with a very promising solution to the problem. The stronghold of pakistani terrorist outfits over the region can be easily attributed to the huge employment generator they have become and it is not a hidden fact that most terrorists are now getting into the fold not based alone on religious reasons. They are not fighting a war of jihad, rather they are getting into a more dangerous and unethical profession to earn a living. We do have insurgencies in areas where the state is not able to assure basic needs and rights to its population. Currently the feelings that terrorist outfits harbor among the to-be jihadis is not just of religious discrimination but of financial deprivation to the Islamic followers. I think India extending a helping hand to Pakistan would be a double plus to its foreign policy. First, it will dissuade the youth in pakistan from swaying to terrrorist outfits and second any development in the subcontinent is in the long run going to strengthen the economic infrastructure in south asia. The bigger the role India plays in developing its neighbours, the more profits it can reap from the trade that would ensue and probably in the distant future make south asia as an economically self-reliant zone! The other alternative of going bam-bam like america has done in Iraq and Afganistan is definitely not India's cup of tea. Reason being, India is at a very peculiar stage of development where it cannot afford to lose the stability beyond the point which it already has!! With major terrorist attacks occuring in every three to four year and naxals becoming an increasing nuisance and growing chinese domination, India badly needs some peaceful time to strengthen and develop itself into the super power it aims to be!! Hence, it seems a good idea to lend a 'few billions' to our neighbour.

The basic mistake which many of us seem to commit is in believing that in India, the Congress has an independent and merit dictated policy towards Pakistan. The truth is that, like it happens in other countries, Congress is guided (or goaded) by two strong factors. Firstly, the US pressure, and secondly, its internal weakness to have to please the minority community which really puts and keeps it in power. The situation in Pakistan is also not consistent. Sometimes, its strong anti India lobby prevails to such an extent that even self destruction is acceptable to its policy makers. At other times, saner voices score over the fanatical ones, and Pakistan blows cold. All the while, USA plays a complex game in which there are two variables. One, the weapons lobby’s pressure to keep India and Pakistan at loggerheads, and the second one is the liberal (and the anti terrorism) pressure which would like to put a high priority to Pakistan being cleansed of the terrorist presence. The mood of the Pakistani government is capricious because, at any point of time it is the net result of the behaviour of these complex variables.

Tarun Vijay and company, make friends with your Indian Muslim co-citizens - then you will see that there is really no need to chase the American or Russian Freindship mirage. Unite India and strengthen it instead of dividing on the basis of your hateful full-of-hate policies. Stop being Islamophobic - stop fearing Islam and Muslims - become friends with them. You will see a blooming India in your life-time. You people are so arrogant and deceptive that plain truth will never convince you. Keep chasing America - and go to hell along with it.

America has a very low E.Q.
It is hated by most people in Pakistan.The way it going,in six months it will be hated by most people in Pakistan as well as India.

In this context, I would appreciate Mr. Rohit Chendravarkar for giving his very relevant suggestions. The present ruling dispensations of US is totally naive and confused. I always appreciate Bush administration because he had the guts to take on anything disastrous to the human kind. We, Indians, can no longer be complacent that Super power/s will help us to exist peacefully. It is an open war. We take lessons from China also how they give a damn to the so called super powers where their National interest matters. First and foremost, be ready to die for the nation . Let us be a Super Power. Let us not bother about what Hillary's struggle is and what US give to Pakistan. Make Bharat strong and nobody should dare to mess with it. BEWARE

u all hindus muslims hater keep crying like baby nothing is gonna help u pakistan has 1000 nukes witch is more than enough for india over 10 times to do the job so i guess ur destiny is to be jealous and scared from pakistan.

Poor Tarun Vijay! Things never seem to go his way!

well said tarun. but India has to fight its own war. we can't Waite for some Saviour to take avatar and crush this terrorist menace. its upto the leadership of our country to take firm stand. but the present govt is just a farce and a lackey of us itself. its shameful for a nation of billion that we can't even defend ourself. its like being impotent.

India needs leaders like Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, not litrally genious like Manmohan Singh. And Congress never cares about India, they always cared for power, right from the days of partition. Congress neither has guts nor intelligence to solve any political disputes. India can never become a super power and a true democracy unless Hindus become the vote bank. We have to borrow some of Isreal's attitude to tackle our enemies.

Its time to change our "High Pro-US stand".

Firstly, India should remove Lockheed Martin from the 126 aircraft acquisition process.

The proposal of reserving two nuclear sites for American industries should be halted.

These steps may not hurt the American economy but a powerful message will be posted to them...

I came to know that US always delivers arms with secretly embedded software in them. In that way a US satellite can change the target of the missile in air. We can secretly work with US and can get the missile's target changed back to Pakistan in case Pakistan dares.

Kashmir... 75000 dead. Who killed them? There is something called "state terrorism". Who is the epicenter of terrorism in the region? Tell me.What are Indian Army officers doing in Afghanistan.Tell me. What were Indian Army officers doing in Dhaka in 1971. What were India officers doing in Siri Lanka. Biggest democracy or the biggest hegemon of the world. Tell me. Pray tell me.

Active politicians and responsible journalists ought to stop harping on the duty of Western democracies, especially the U.S.A., to be sympathetic to India on account of her democratic constitution. In their realpolitik Western democracies acted as imperialist deniers of their colonial peoples'freedom. The U.S. actively supported the cruel dictators of South America, of Arabia, of the Philippines. Till Pearl Harbour it supported Nazi Germany. India should have her own independent policy based on her own strength in the pursuit of her own purusakara.

www.poemhunter.com/dr.yogesh sharma sir i fully agree views expressed by you.In Asia America wants an ally and crony.In the form of Pakistan America has got not an ally but a slave who only wants money and green pastures of America.As far as India is concerned America knows and knows very well that India has no foreign policy or if she has one, she has Islam and Islamic countries centric and pro China.In our country secular leaders,right activists, media,intellectuals and so called civil society people all are pro Muslims and pro Islamic countries.America knows this.Similarly left parties,left groups,left intellectuals all are die hard Chinese supporters.So our foreign policy is controlled and guided by vote bank considerations or the money given by Islamic countries and China to their sympathizer and agents.American intelligence agencies have full knowledge about such deals.Even Indian intelligence agencies have got full in formations about these kinds of deals.Moreover in the far against terror India never supported America.India always remain supporter of Islamic countries and Islamic rulers.Even in her own land India miserably failed to ban and punish any terror and separatist group or any terrorist or any separatist terrorists.Even in some of the states separatist or their sympathizers are ruling the state or in a very powerful position.Kashmir and Kerla are few examples of this kind.So America knows all these things very well.A country whose leaders are not loyal to their country or to its people cannot do any good for America.In this country lakes of people have been killed by terrorists but even then there is no tough anti terror law in this country.Here beard,turban,burqa ,mine rates,sharia laws are more important than the lives of its people.Our governments fights for these thigh but do nothing for the nation or the lives of the people.So what is America going to gain with its friendship with India.So in its calculations Pakistan is much is best.

But wilh these dollers and drones, America should be the most popular country in Pakistan. Ask Pakistanis.Amercians are more unpopular in Pakistan than even Indians! Endgame will begin when Americans will go out of Afghanistan and Iraq.A fratricide awaits Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan in next 20 years.