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Tarun Vijay,  16 January 2010, 11:00 PM IST

Nineteen always comes before twenty-six. But here, in our gloriously decorated centres of governance, we celebrate January 26 with a blank look at our republic's bruised soul showcased through January 19, considered the day when the biggest forced exodus of Kashmiri Hindus from the valley was accelerated.



A republic is merely a signature of the Constitution adopted for governing a people, who, in turn, constitute a nation. That nation actually represents the continuity of the civilisational flow of the land and its inhabitants. Ironically, in our case the republic, instead of nurturing those roots, is trying to overwhelm the memories of the soul of this nation with decorated mass annihilators. It’s like putting more earth on the debris to stifle any voices of the living underneath it instead of unearthing and safeguarding the life underneath.



Kashmir, one of the fountainheads of Indian civilisational memories and a symbol of the highest achievements in the scholarship that made India a centre of universal acclaim, is one such example. Everything about its relation with the rest of the Indian nation’s body is sought to be deleted as if a nation is a computer storage you can add to or delete from at your whim.



Mercifully, these neo-state-owners are not gods. Hence, the debris, even when put under mounds of earth, show the facts, however unpalatable they might be to the Wahhabi variety of secularism. The truth about Kashmir comes out in a miraculous demonstration of life. The memory of Rishi Kashyap, whose name Kashmir wears, the history contained in "Raj Tarangini" and the valour of the citizen King Lalitaditya, the sacred bareness of Kashmir's Meera Lal Dyad, the spiritualism of Muslim fakir Rishi Nund, victory campaigns of Zoravar Singh, the region's defining glory in Amarnath, Shankaracharya’s Hill and Mata Vaishno Devi, and Vivekananda’s unique realisation at Kheer Bhawani. The age-old fountainhead of Hindu wisdom reflected in Sharada Peeth and the origin of Shri Vidya, Shaiv traditions and the Wazvan, Samovar amalgamation that looked once inseparable.



Can there be a Kashmir without these?  What happened on January 19 is part of the efforts to erase all that.



On that day 20 years ago, one of the largest and most painful exoduses of a community took place. Although, agreeably, it's tough in such circumstances to pinpoint a single date, this has come to be registered as one such day of mass escape of the Hindus from the assaults of jihadis in the valley. This was the day when the mosques blared out a message from their loudspeakers: Pundits leave the valley, leaving behind your women. We want Pakistan, without Pundits.



The killings were brutal. Famous philosopher-poet Sarvanand Premi and his son. Their eyes were gouged out before they were killed. Sarla Bhatt. A nurse in a Srinagar hospital. Mass-raped and killed. Tika Lala Taplu, Lassa Kaul. Prem Nath Bhatt. H L Khera and Mushirul Haq (their killers were acquitted recently after a 19-year-long trial). Those were the days when such killings did make some news in Delhi.



It’s amazing to find a studied silence in the Indian and the foreign media on an exodus that made the valley‘s cultural vibgyor vanish. It's shocking to see a secular tribe in the national capital too hospitable to patriotic Indians' slayers like Musharraf and Yasin Malik, the former being the instigator of the Kargil war and the latter facing cases of murders including those of Indian Air Force officers. Google and find out about him. He was the guest of honour at a recently concluded India-Pakistan dialogue for peace which was conducted without a single participation from refugee Kashmiri Hindus.



We are about to celebrate yet another day of the republic without willing to see that this republic hasn’t been able to assure safety to the patriotic people of Kashmir and has stage-managed an autonomy report that is widely seen as a document of separation mocking at the resolution of Parliament swearing to guard India's integrity and take back the land illegally occupied by Pakistan and China.



A resolution passed in December 2009 by Panun Kashmir, an organisation of Kashmiri Hindus said: "It is a matter of extreme apathy that the exiled Kashmiri Pandits are forced to live in subhuman conditions and subsistence in so-called migrant camps in Jammu and elsewhere for the last 20 years. There is no policy for reversing the genocide and rehabilitating the community in its homeland and the governments of India as well as the J&K state have treated the holocaust with bizarre inaptitude and abandonment. In the last 20 years the government has made empty announcements and piecemeal return formulae, only to further compound the plight of the community.”



When a people are uprooted, not just the bodies that consume food and procreate are transferred from one station to another. It’s an entire life cycle and the reservoirs of collective memory that get dehydrated. It affects and destroys a language, traditions that weave the fabric of a societal dynamic, songs and beliefs, religious rituals and places of worship, behaviour and protocols that were created and nurtured by the elders as far back as a thousand years, oral history and the patterns of living including homes, food, utensils, methods to greet and calls to organise for a resistance. It affects the attire, the way children are reared, marriages solemnised and the dead cremated.



An entire world is lost.



A single citizen of the republic contains in him the entire fabric of the nationhood as much as a drop of the ocean carries the ocean in itself. Kashmiri Hindus deported from the valley is like the Indian nation deported from this region. Mere geography doesn’t constitute nationhood.



Afghanistan was Gandhar. We lost it. We lost Taxila, Bappa Rawal’s Rawalpindi, Dahar and Jhoolelal’s Sind and Dhakeshwari’s Dhaka with the Ramana Kali temple, destroyed by Pakistanis in 1971 yet to be rebuilt, as neither Mujib nor Hasina’s government, so lovingly described as "friendly" allowed its reconstruction. When the people, representing the spirit of a nation are deported, the nation’s cultural ethos too gets fragile and finally eliminated. The memory, once a living life force, gets museum-ised.
 
Imagine how this will sound: Once upon a time, Kashmiri Hindus lived in the valley.



Now we have our own kith and kin, in our independent republic living as refugees for the ‘crime’ of being Hindus and loyal to the Indian nationhood, who refused to side with the pro-Pakistan separatists.



We in our entirety share the sin of forgetting our soul. Our sin is we loved to dine with the killers.

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sagar says:

January 16,2010 at 11:29 PM IST

Thank you Tarunji,
Media needs tol be blamed for not taking up the issue like they seized on ruchika case with non stop daily coverage.

(Reply to sagar)- Sam Baruha says:

January 18,2010 at 11:53 AM IST

The problem is that KPs left Kashmir and settled elsewhere. Now its their second and third generation who is living in exile and they are losing their connection to their home land. Its very sad indeed. But on the other hand if we see there has been been mass killings of minorities in Kandhamal, Gujarat and punjab, people did not leave their homeland to settle else where. They dug in to bear the brunt of the brutality. KPs should have weathered the storm rather than running away.

(Reply to Sam Baruha)- Dwj says:

January 21,2010 at 10:34 AM IST

The communal problems you are referring to are nothing in magnitude if you compare them with what is happening in kashmir. In the skirmishes you are referring minorities are more to be blamed. It is their intolerance of the faith of the majority that make the majority react. Whereas in Kashmir it is intolerance by the majority muslims of any other faith. Don't confuse issues and mislead.

(Reply to Dwj)- singalone says:

March 12,2010 at 08:22 PM IST

Sam, There is a term for what happened in Kashmir, for a size of the population of KPs it was a genocide.
I leave it at that. Those who lived it know it. You will not. Kandahmal or Kashmir no human being deserves to be butchered.

(Reply to sagar)- Praveen says:

January 18,2010 at 05:14 AM IST

In the end a country and its people get what they deserve. If a Government is able to get away by ridiculing, insulting and trampling the majority, the majority is the first and foremost to be blamed for its impotency. The one who tolerates injustice is always the bigger culprit. So Mr. Vijay, there is no need to moan for the cowards and the impotents. They are getting what they squarely deserve. And they will keep getting it, worse with each passing day and living like second-grade citizens of the country, till they either learn to stand up as one united force or die out. There is no other way. Vande Matram!

(Reply to sagar)- Soul in Exile says:

January 18,2010 at 12:52 PM IST

Not sure if TOI will allow this comment to be published.

My personal account of that horrible night of 19th Jan 1990. Read here...
http://soulinexile.blogspot.com/2007/01/kp-exodus-day-19th-january-1990.html

(Reply to sagar)- indianhun says:

January 18,2010 at 05:47 PM IST

Why you do not write about Riot in Gujrat. You always morn about the Kahmiri Pundits. Try to write about the exploit of human by human. Tyr to write how to bind people and not to divide. We ahould condemen what was done in Kashmiri but at the same time we should condemen the riot of Gujrat as well. Try to write somthing which crate nationlism between the people. We all are too fedup up of these kind of aligation and counter aligation.

(Reply to indianhun)- Dwj says:

January 21,2010 at 10:43 AM IST

Riot in Gujarat was sequal to burning the train.What did Kashmiri pandits do to earn the wrath of the muslims exept for the sin of being Hindus? You may say burning is due to babri. But babri was due to demolition of the temple. So, ultimately it can be seen that only muslims are the casue of any unrest. One who sinned should atone. It can't be other way about. But the problem is muslims want others to accept whatever they do in the name of their religion. Any reaction, they cite that reaction as the cause for their further courses of action. Thus it never ends. But righteousness lies in only the aggressor realising his aggressiveness and initiate corrective course of action.

(Reply to sagar)- VK says:

January 20,2010 at 04:39 PM IST

thank you so much Tarun ji for writing this piece .... hope you had written this a few years ago .... when BJP was in power. Am I dreaming that they would have done anything? Ofcors, I m dreaming. They had a chance and they lost it all and they dont even feel sorry for belittling our trust.

 

Ramchandra says:

January 16,2010 at 11:34 PM IST

Thanks Tarun-ji for speaking the truth about what is happening to us Hindus, not only in Kashmir but also the entire Bharath-varsh. Being Hindu is getting mired in apathy and like that proverbial frog, we are slowly being boiled to death. The nation is very well on its way to becoming an Islamic republic in say 40 years or so... God save our Hindu children and grandchildren from the blood thirsty Jehadis then because then even the Congress will be snuffed out by the Jehadis.

(Reply to Ramchandra)- Sharda Bhargav - The Confiscated Soul says:

January 18,2010 at 10:55 AM IST

Systematic exudus is still in force in Ladakh, Kargil, Doda, Poonchh, Rajouri.
Shahadat of temples between 1988 to date should be brought on record and 19 Jan fixed to be observed as atonement day.

(Reply to Ramchandra)- Akshey says:

January 19,2010 at 08:34 AM IST

God helps those who helps themselves. Don't curse jehadis curse our politicians who are doing nothing just to save their vote bank.And on more thing no will come to protect you if you want to be protected be brave and face yourself.

(Reply to Ramchandra)- Ritesh K Gupta says:

January 20,2010 at 04:46 AM IST

This is not happening with Hindus in India. If we don't stick to our ritual, and our belief, we would be extruded out. We Hindus need to learn to nourish our ritual values. We have to kill intercastism in hindu religion and have to come up a lone caste as HINDU and not like Pandits,(or what you calls Brahmins),Shudra's etc. The single religion will give us strenght,support in our own people, and then see how can the incidence which happened twenty years back on pandits can take place.

(Reply to Ramchandra)- momin says:

January 20,2010 at 07:54 PM IST

You and your so call Tarunji are the biggest hypocrits' on the face of the earth. You think by writing all this rubbish from figment of your imagination you are trying to prove that hindus are suffering at the hand of muslims, don't lie to such an extent, beware of Gods punishment. which country you are living in, actually at present every muslim is worried that in coming few decades India will become a hardline hindu rashtra, open your eyes it is otherway around, muslims are suffering at the hands of fanatics hindus all over India. I'm really sorry that a reputed newspaper like TOI is allowing such kind of rubbish.

(Reply to momin)- anju raina says:

January 23,2010 at 01:49 AM IST

I was also there awake on the night of Jan,19th..whatever Tarunji has written is right..because I have suffered leaving my parents in kashmir and flying alone out of kashmir...So please dont say "rubbish"...Only the wearer knows were the shoe pinches..

(Reply to momin)- Jabbar Khan Kashmiri says:

January 25,2010 at 08:48 PM IST

Not a word for other migrations. Kashmiri pandits left. No fault of Kashmiri Muslims. But why only their migration is exodus. They are now quiet well off. Better than what they were in kashmir. Besides, only 200 pandits were killed. Not a word for over 100000 lakh kashmiri muslims. What about other migrations. Migration of Muslims from Rural Belt to urban areas of Jammu and Srinagar due to atrocities of troops. what about migrations of Dogras from border areas of Jammu during operation parakaram. Their lands are still mined. Are they not humans. The issue should not be communalised.

 

Abhishek Singh says:

January 16,2010 at 11:42 PM IST

The indcidents and facts quoted in the article are ugly and thought proving for sure. But the point is how long can we go ahead bearing the hatered in our hearts against the sub sections we have created within human civilization? first we divide humans based on the looks, region, caste and so on ..
When I was born I was a man, later I relaised I was an Indian, that too a hindu and then I was a noth Indian too and then I realised I a up'ite and then from nort UP.....and the list went on. Frankly at times it becomes little hard to decide where should my real loyality lie? With Indians or with Hindus? With South Indian Hindus or North Indian hindus? ... Damn cant we at one point just leave this behind, just know people for what they are and reserve our privilage to love or hate someone purely for his/her deeds?
I am sorry if its way off the topic but pal, your article quoting the brutalities on just one section does hit you the first thing as you read the article.
Boy..I may not be politically correct but I am just tired of this mentatality.

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- R N Rao says:

January 17,2010 at 01:15 AM IST

This is evasive thinking. It is exactly this type of internalization that made us weak as a society. Not able to see the truth! How long or how far to run away with this type of self justification.
All social identities or multilayered. Nothing wrong. I am so-and so,from the family of so-and so, from the village so-and so, of district ...... in INDIA .... What is wrong with it. I have my loyalties and duties at different levels. What is wrong with it.

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- TruthAlone says:

January 17,2010 at 09:09 AM IST

Oh! So you were born a man - Isn't that full of presuppositions? Because everybody else is born as a child first!

Read a bit of history and question to find out the nature of Truth

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- Vivek says:

January 17,2010 at 10:39 AM IST

Pal you really sounds confused, u need to know some real stuff. A writer like Tarunji pen down these realities and thanks to TOI for pubishing this

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- Ashok Chowgule says:

January 17,2010 at 12:15 PM IST

Abhishekji seems to think that highlighting the plight of the Kashmiri Hindus will create hatred. What about the hatred that caused the misery of these Hindus?

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- AP says:

January 17,2010 at 12:52 PM IST

Your comments is right but misplaced

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- Gunjan says:

January 17,2010 at 01:10 PM IST

Teach your so called 'liberal' view to those who perpetrated the crimes. If they agree and stop their genocidal behaviour, come back and teach Tarun to accept the view.

Till then - live in your isolated world - mouthing platitudes.

Why dont you first suggest a solution for the kashmiri hindus' problems before you start your selfish introspection ?

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- arati says:

January 17,2010 at 08:46 PM IST

M Abhishek Singh,
Yes we are all tired - you are tired of what we have not understood. Should not a community which has been driven out of their ancient homeland and whose culture is being systematically erased both physically and in memory have any right to speak. So what if you are tired, they are also tired of rhetoric of people like you - who are hopeless and claim secularist and miff the voices of right speaking people, casting foreign thoughts, which are mostly destructive in our midst in the much abused name of secularism. Just try coming out of northern UP or wherever you belong to thinking that you have been driven out of your homeland and see how you feel. The loss of lands as described by tarun vijay and the cultures are facts staring on your face so you are not able to bear it - you destructive modern man - false pacifist, coward - your ilk has destroyed this nation and culture and now how dare you say you are tired.

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- sandeep says:

January 17,2010 at 11:05 PM IST

Abhishek...you seem to have shown a very good sense of an out of the box thinking in the initial few lines of your comment. However, I am sorry to say that you lost your way somewhere in between. If you consider yourself hindu and you might have heard of a Hindu epic "mahabharat" and a well known book "Gita". Read them and I dont need to say anything else.

(Reply to sandeep )- A S CHAUHAN says:

January 18,2010 at 10:52 PM IST

Abhishek or Abhishekh ! I remain stunned after having read

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- Rajesh says:

January 18,2010 at 12:26 PM IST

hey,
This is the weekness we Hindu's basically have.
From our birth, childhood and later on laos we are preached, taught to love people of other religion but it should be done if any religion does not come before a country and wants to establish an Islamic state. Wake dude, else your grand children will be muslims.

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- Abhishek Singh says:

January 18,2010 at 03:12 AM IST

These reactions just prove my point. We are so closely tied to our sub divisions now that we dont want to let them go. For how long are we planning to carry this hatered in our hearts? Where would this thinking lead us to?
Agree that some of us had to bear the burn first hand. These unfortunate brothers become the headlines of few papers which we read in the comfort of our home. What do we take out from this? Some hindus were driven out? While the real news was that humanity was humiliated yet again.
If you talk about the plight of Hindus from Kashmir, then I guess we should take some time out and discuss the injustice done to muslims in Gujrat.
To summarize, what done is the past and whats ahead is the future. The deeds we do today will shape the future of our generations to come. If we decide to bury the past, our generations ahead would have one less thing to worry about, if we hold it on close to our hearts poor souls will continue fighting each other for what happened years ago.

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- madhav ghangurde says:

January 18,2010 at 02:01 PM IST

Dear friend, you have simply failed to understand the agony of the people who have been uprooted, insulted, tortured, and made to live as refugees.

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- deepesh says:

January 18,2010 at 07:32 PM IST

U seems to b a complete nuts according to me, Weak n unsoulfull people like u make our country weak.U fool ur loyality shud lie with India 1st, then somthng else , tarun ji is jst highlighting the issues what Kasmiri Pandits faced n may i know what so wrong in it? U r just a pseudo secular and nothing more thn tht, tht's it...

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- Kaushik says:

January 19,2010 at 10:29 AM IST

Which mentality? The mentality of voicing one's thoughts on a dangerous past and present?

Tired of what? You must be happy. After all, nothing is being done against the instigators and perpetrators of the heinous crimes, in the name of secularism.

You are right when you point to divisiveness (we are divided) but will turning the face away solve the problem?

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- Murali says:

January 19,2010 at 11:50 AM IST

Abhishek, Tarun is not creating hatred. Rather he is highlighting how the creators of the problems are being forgiven without the punishment. The media and so called human-right activists make such a noise when a Kashmiri dies in crossfire. But where is the noise when a Pundit or a migrant Bihari is brutally killed. There was no support by any human right activist to the brave girl Ruksana who fought the terrorists. Shame on people like you who find find fault while somebody bringing his voice for the people affected by such cruelty.

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- Murali says:

January 19,2010 at 11:55 AM IST

I am sure this Abhishek is a muslim masking his name as that of a Hindu

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- Sonu says:

January 20,2010 at 06:06 PM IST

Abhishek ... rem one thing

those who do not learn from past/history are desinted to be doomed... and with people like you in this country we are already on that path!

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- rajesh patil says:

January 20,2010 at 06:29 PM IST

Hindu - the name itself represents strength. "NaayamaAtmaa BalaHeenen Labhya" (meaning -a weak can not achieve realisation !!) roar our scriptures !!. Thus, a strong Hindu only will survive !! Look at ChhatraPati Shivaaji, Guru GovindSingh ji, Teg Bahaadur ji, Raanaa Prataap, Baappaa Raaval, Raani Jhaansi, Baajirao Peshawaa, Swaami Vivekaananda, Samartha RaamaDaasa etc. They made us proud. Remember them and then see. All your weakness will vanish !!!

(Reply to Abhishek Singh)- m.m.kale says:

January 21,2010 at 12:27 AM IST

why hide ? were you not in a caste after you were hindu ? the divide started a long time ago..and is irreversible.

 

Ziauddin Shafi says:

January 17,2010 at 12:02 AM IST

Very soulful and emotional write-up, appeals straight to the heart and describes the tragedy of our times - not only of Kashmiri Hindus - but of the whole sub-continent when it was partitioned to create a false homeland for those who already had a home of their own. And all that huge tragedy for the mere satiation of the political ambitions of a few. For the tragedy that was Pakistan's creation, generation upon generation of Indian Muslims continue to suffer for no fault of their own. If what is done cannot be undone, then more such non-undoable acts should not be committed any more. Let all Indians realize that they are destined to live together and fate beckons them to live peacefully in their homeland as well as work unitedly for a better tomorrow.

(Reply to Ziauddin Shafi)- vishal says:

January 19,2010 at 08:13 PM IST

sir i respect to what u have said,, but can assure whatever u have siad is only relevant until india remains hindu majority. If if happens otherwise i dont see any future of pharases like
living peacefully
peacefully together
their homeland.

u r smart enough in realizing what i am pointing to
vandee matram( and the discord continues)

(Reply to Ziauddin Shafi)- luhar sen says:

January 20,2010 at 01:35 PM IST

well said, Mr. Safi. I really appreciate your stand on this issue. God bless.

(Reply to Ziauddin Shafi)- ANCIENT says:

January 20,2010 at 04:43 PM IST

muslims all over the world complain like you you want to dream EXISTENCE OF islamic state and muslim world by complaining for your ignorance . how many yearsyour religion completed? KASHMIRI PUNDITS ARE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF THE AREA NOT MUSLIMS WHOSE RELIGION WAS NOT BORN THEN/// WORLD OVER YOUR CO RELIGIONISTS ARE TROBLE MONGERS

 

ramchandran says:

January 17,2010 at 12:13 AM IST

india is a very very big country of hipocrats.we have being doing 26th jan and 15th aug tamasha and
burning valuable wealth.the whole world known our
big country,we need not waste money to prove poung foolish we are ,stop this national waste of money
construct dams,produce more electri which is
the national need. enough of tamasha.stop atonce.

(Reply to ramchandran)- Ashok Chowgule says:

January 17,2010 at 12:13 PM IST

Would the dams and electricity have stopped the ethnic cleansing of the Kashmiri Hindus? If so, who was responsible that this did not happen earlier? It is no use saying that let us not look at the past. There are people who are suffering badly and their plight must not be trivalised.

(Reply to ramchandran)- sonu says:

January 20,2010 at 06:09 PM IST

idea of 'indian nation' is based on wrong foundation and by bunch of idoits like nehru!

 

Raj says:

January 17,2010 at 12:26 AM IST

I was a student at one of the NITs when my Kashimiri Pandit friend from valley and our hostel mate narrated the harrowing experiences the community along with other minorities went through.

He told how the Hindus and Muslims lived in peace until one day when suddenly a few bigots brainwashed from across the border with the crap and bigoted concepts like Jihaad ,Nizaam E Mustafa etc. started the violent process of ethnic cleansing.The result was that his family like many others,expelled from valley, was then living in dire conditions in 1 room camps in Jammu.He also narrated how the goodwill disappeared after the genocide of Hindus in the valley.Despite this I saw him going out of the way to help the Muslim hostel mate from valley -which presumably speaks volumes about the tolerance and virtues of Hinduism.

Unfortunately the current ruling UPA dispensation has been less than fair to Hindus in general and Kashmiri Hindus in particular.I am sure everyone very well remembers that how during the recent Amarnath controversy, seperatists-who opposed religious right of Hindus, were brought to preach on tolerance on national television and anti nationals like Arundhati Roy-calling for balkanisation of the country given free reign.More recently the so called quiet talks of the government on J&K has resulted in withdrawal of security forces from the valley which in turn has paved way for the complete Islamisation of the state.All this at a time when the UPA wants to implement reservation for muslims in Hindu majority states and give them special privileges.

The hate-anything-Hindu style pseudo secularists might be rejoicing at the pity state of Hindus in valley,but in doing so they are doing great disservice to the nation.

 

Afzal says:

January 17,2010 at 12:48 AM IST

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(Reply to Afzal)- bilkis says:

January 18,2010 at 08:42 PM IST

Your days are over now.

(Reply to Afzal)- kashmiri hindu says:

January 18,2010 at 11:08 AM IST

Afzal,

Why declare kashmir as Islamic country. Why don't you reconvert back to the faith(buddhism or Hinduism) of your ancestors or if that is not possible, cross the border and live peacefully ever after.

Don't spread lies. You kashmiri muslims should be ashamed how you let your Jihadists kill innocent Kashmiri Hindus and forced them to leave the valley.

A persecuted and exiled Kashmiri Hindu

(Reply to Afzal)- kashmiri hindu says:

January 18,2010 at 11:08 AM IST

Afzal,

Why declare kashmir as Islamic country. Why don't you reconvert back to the faith(buddhism or Hinduism) of your ancestors or if that is not possible, cross the border and live peacefully ever after.

Don't spread lies. You kashmiri muslims should be ashamed how you let your Jihadists kill innocent Kashmiri Hindus and forced them to leave the valley.

A persecuted and exiled Kashmiri Hindu

(Reply to Afzal)- Abhishek says:

January 18,2010 at 02:24 PM IST

babar ki aulad, agli baar bola to jeebh kat dunga

(Reply to Afzal)- Abhishek says:

January 18,2010 at 02:24 PM IST

babar ki aulad, agli baar bola to jeebh kat dunga

(Reply to Afzal)- JN says:

January 18,2010 at 10:35 AM IST

Afzal ji...If you think converting Kashmir into an all Muslim state would bring peace then what do you have to say about Pakistan and many other such Islamic states. Jinah thought this too when he asked for Pakistan..Homogenizing is not the answer. Respecting the hetrogenity is the answer...that is why despite all the problems and diversities India still stands as ONE nation and you know where your Islamic Pakistan stands..

(Reply to Afzal)- Arun says:

January 18,2010 at 12:29 PM IST

Is this a threat or wishful thinking? You should read history properly and you will find other solutions which will show you your right place.

(Reply to Afzal)- AL says:

January 18,2010 at 09:00 PM IST

Kashmir will be declared an Islamic country by India and given to Pakistan only if all the muslims in India agree to go to Kashmir.India will not be further partitioned on the basis of religion.Those muslims who feel humiliated to be Indian citizens are welcome to go to Pakistan or Bangladesh.

(Reply to Afzal)- AL says:

January 18,2010 at 09:00 PM IST

Kashmir will be declared an Islamic country by India and given to Pakistan only if all the muslims in India agree to go to Kashmir.India will not be further partitioned on the basis of religion.Those muslims who feel humiliated to be Indian citizens are welcome to go to Pakistan or Bangladesh.

(Reply to Afzal)- Divakar says:

January 18,2010 at 01:13 PM IST

Afzal..i cant blame you for the ignorance of the facts that you have shown in your comments. When your neighbor gets slaughtered and the jehadis tell you that leave or you shall be next ... i question you what would you do. With a responsibility of the entire family a man would not leave them to get butchered. Whatever the hindus did at that time was what could have been done. Had our impotent government not simply watched the apathy and rather acted times would have been different right now.

(Reply to Afzal)- Ashish John says:

January 18,2010 at 03:06 PM IST

WHY? just coz a handful brainwashed lunatics want their own raj?!
Soon we ll have other jokers standing and demanding their chunk of land. I am sorry but our forefathers did not fight to see this country in bits and pieces like you suggest. Make efforts to solve a problem , not run away from it.
the onus lies on each one of us. We hear preachers and leaders spewing venom (this is across all religions i assure you that) now its up to you whether you wish to chose hate or love.. arm ur self with AK47 , a Trishul OR flowers.
And a response to Tarun : people have beeen wronged , be it KAshmiri Hindus , Gujrat Muslims , Orrissa Christians .. the list is endless. Now either we sit and mourn over the losses or we take a step towards something which unites us. So either we mourn the day when valley lost its Goodness or celeberate the day when this country stood on its own feet and within a span of 60 years is on the verge of making its presence count through out the world.

(Reply to Afzal)- The Eternal Indian says:

January 18,2010 at 04:50 PM IST

That is where the problem lies. You need to come out of your small confined world. Practice your own religion and let other's practice theirs. Islam is way above your thinking. Read Quran and justify how you can force someone out of his home. That is what will be done if Kashmir is islamized. You sound more like a fanatic.

(Reply to Afzal)- The Eternal Indian says:

January 18,2010 at 04:50 PM IST

That is where the problem lies. You need to come out of your small confined world. Practice your own religion and let other's practice theirs. Islam is way above your thinking. Read Quran and justify how you can force someone out of his home. That is what will be done if Kashmir is islamized. You sound more like a fanatic.

(Reply to Afzal)- Rohit says:

January 19,2010 at 01:12 AM IST

@Afzal,
i am not sure whether you are a Kashmiri.
The only thing which i can say, in that case is:
I pray to Allmighty Allah that May you and your next 4 generations suffer the same what KPs suffered on the night of Jan 19, 1990.

Declaring Kashmir as what BS you have mentioned.Are you gone nuts?? No one in his sane senses across the globe would want another monster like Pakistan to be created.

so come out of your fancy thoughts

(Reply to Afzal)- Sid says:

January 19,2010 at 03:57 AM IST

Yes, why stop at Kashmir? Declare India as Islamic. That is the goal, is not it?

(Reply to Afzal)- Kaushik says:

January 19,2010 at 10:35 AM IST

Why do you guys always need SEPARATE countries?

Nobody forced them to leave Kashmir????

(Reply to Afzal)- Shankar says:

January 19,2010 at 03:04 PM IST

What a joke??? Nobody forced them to leave and they just left on their own. Will you leave your home just like that.
Why should Kashmir become a Islamic country. It is not. Even if a plebiscite is held it should be with votes of all minorities who were forced out of the place.

(Reply to Afzal)- Talking Indian says:

January 19,2010 at 04:56 PM IST

Afzal, we already gave you a separate Islamic country and that place is right now called Pakistan if you didn't know. It's yours... Go and adopt it now. You obviously have wasted a lot of your life living in strife in a tolerant society. Please wait no more. Join your brethren across the border and live the life you were born to live. (go figure)

(Reply to Afzal)- viji says:

January 19,2010 at 09:54 PM IST

Sir,
Dear Afsal are you living in Hindus alnd and taking water from here them don,t do it pl go to pak.

(Reply to Afzal)- Himanshu Sharma says:

January 20,2010 at 05:07 PM IST

Go join ur Holy Jehad. 72 virgins are waiting for you in Heaven. You may get them but not Kashmir.

(Reply to Afzal)- Rehman says:

January 20,2010 at 06:44 PM IST

Mr Afzal's words are in line with the principle of Islam called "Darul-e-Islam". It means- Creating Islamic land by either Killing, converting or deporting the "Kaafirs" (NonMuslims -who could save themselves all earlier Islamic aggressions)!!. The same principle created 57 Islamic nations on this earth !! Many of them were Hindu nations earlier !! Afghanistan, Iran, Tajikistan, Kazagastan, Pakistan, Bangla-Desh, Indonesia, Malaysia to name few !!!

(Reply to Afzal)- jatin says:

January 20,2010 at 08:43 PM IST

look at this brazen rot head ...its people of his ilk
who are a burden on this planet

 

Reader says:

January 17,2010 at 01:09 AM IST

Ok you might call me a comunalist but could anyone explain how the following acts could be viewed as secular from any prism?

1.Affidavit in the court saying Lord Ram never existed.

2.The PM declares that-Muslims must have the first right on resources in the country.

3.One isolated act of violence and the whole power circuit shouts of- Hindu terror- from roof tops.

4.The then culture minister openly declares in 2007 that- since Sindhu Darshan festival name stinks of name Hindu Darshan,she is changing the name to something else.Also,she then orders the ASI to scrap the projects like the one to find ancient Sarasvati River-despite the fact that it is in very advanced stage.
She is then promoted in the next government.

5.In Andhra Pradesh, the holiest of Hindu temple management is handed over to non-Hindus.Further government money is pumped into NGOs berating Hinduism and encouraging terms like post hindu india etc.

6.Proposal of religious based reservations only for minorities.

7.In Kashmir a small piece of land in Amarnath Shrine would not be given to Hindus even as everywhere in the country,the new mosques and Madrasas are mushrooming up.
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If we believe that the above examples were nothing to do with secularism but a manifestation of hatred by Anti-Hindu elements,then it is high time that Hindu politicians unite across party lines to foil this non-sense in a polished manner.

(Reply to Reader)- Sid says:

January 19,2010 at 04:09 AM IST

Dude, the new in-thing is secularism. That is the new religion too. You think you are the majority but no, you are the minority. Just like in Malayasia. The government and media try to tell you the fact every now and then. But we are too stupid to pick up the signals and keep complaining. Who cares for a bunch of pu**ies singing the song of peace and love when enemy is at the gates?

(Reply to Reader)- Sid says:

January 19,2010 at 04:09 AM IST

Dude, the new in-thing is secularism. That is the new religion too. You think you are the majority but no, you are the minority. Just like in Malayasia. The government and media try to tell you the fact every now and then. But we are too stupid to pick up the signals and keep complaining. Who cares for a bunch of pu**ies singing the song of peace and love when enemy is at the gates?

 

arish sahani says:

January 17,2010 at 02:45 AM IST

I apaeal to all converts we are living in 21 century .You are free not any more under arebic laws and no akbar or Aurangjeb is ruling you.Get out of this murderous idealogy. Don't live to die Live to Live and enjoy. Its shame no one is telling you to be free but Its you have to rise up and seek freedom. You are doomed when you die for dieing you get nothing but you do create a big Hole for your kins who will be hated and hunted in future.

 

yogita says:

January 17,2010 at 04:44 AM IST

Tarun ji thanks for another eye opening article i think u r the only person in the Indian media who dares to write about reality but the question is how to make it a national movement so that kashmiri pundits get their rightful due????????????/

 

T.R.Krishnamoorthy says:

January 17,2010 at 06:06 AM IST

Sir,
It is quite apparent that hindu population is gradually dwindling and others are growing.Others came here as invaders and still hindus have taken things for granted and embracing the notion as 'secularism'. When will the glory of HINDUISM come back???

(Reply to T.R.Krishnamoorthy)- sonu says:

January 20,2010 at 03:23 AM IST

Do you guys knows that there were no such word as Hindu before Babar attacked india? I recently attended a convetion about religion and please correct me if I am wrong but before Babar times indian were called Aryan not hindus for example Lord Ram was called Aryan putra etc so the word Hindu was given to us by Mugul emperors to insult and in Arabic it means dog and thief and hindustan means land of dogs and thiefs so all you people can you find out the origination of word HINDU

 

Harsh says:

January 17,2010 at 06:07 AM IST

Tarun, thanks for using the word "Kashmiri Hindus" instead of that obnoxious arrogant upper-caste word, "Kashmiri Pandits". Way to go. This is the way to build unity among Hindus.

 

R Sengupta says:

January 17,2010 at 06:20 AM IST

A great article - thanks Tarun. I, like many others, did not know about 19 January - probably our Manmohan Singh government will be happy about it. Our respected newspapers like TOI, with gutter jounalism, are busy in headlining great stories of Indian Student getting abused by Aussies in the middle of the night (how many such incidents happen in India daily, may be 100,000, or, great stories of poor Ruchita's case with juicy material (sic), etc. We are proud that a sikh is our PM, an Italian as the chief of our ruling party, SRK as our hero, etc in a country of 750 million Indians!!!

 

ssmoorthy says:

January 17,2010 at 08:26 AM IST

Mr.Tarun Vijay always writes factual and thought provoking articles.Historically this article represents the nature of occupation and atrocities committed by some Islamic individuals in the name of religion and conquest.Hindus because of lack of unity did not and could not do anything.Hindus and Hindu religion suffered innumerable outrages from Islamic Invasion.The British left India but not the Islamic fundamentalists.Under the name of democracy the Hindus suffered in Kashmir(leave alone in Pakistan).Kashmiri Hindus as pointed out in the article are still suffering.What is the Government of India doing?The people of India have not asked for Justice.If not the people who cares?

 

Hemant says:

January 17,2010 at 08:35 AM IST

Very thought provoking Tarunji. I hate the political outfits which promote polarisation on religious lines. Particularly BJP and its supporting parties, probably because am a Hindu and always felt ashamed when someone from my community behaved like that. Not that I support such moves from the other religion, but I don't feel the compulsion to stoop lower then them to pay them back. I feel greatfull to you for bringing up such episodes as History needs to be studied and understood as a fact not as someone's interpretation or perception, which is what the Congress leadership run by Kashmiri Pandits is now trying to do. Fail to understand the reasons why they are distorting the history and not making any efforts to rehabilitate Kashmiri Pandits back in the valley. Country belongs to everyone not just from people of a particular community. We will have to hold hands to ensure that we build it together not separately.

 

Hemant says:

January 17,2010 at 08:38 AM IST

Very thought provoking Tarunji. I hate the political outfits which promote polarisation on religious lines. Particularly BJP and its supporting parties, probably because am a Hindu and always felt ashamed when someone from my community behaved like that. Not that I support such moves from the other religion, but I don't feel the compulsion to stoop lower then them to pay them back. I feel greatfull to you for bringing up such episodes as History needs to be studied and understood as a fact not as someone's interpretation or perception, which is what the Congress leadership run by Kashmiri Pandits is now trying to do. Fail to understand the reasons why they are distorting the history and not making any efforts to rehabilitate Kashmiri Pandits back in the valley. Country belongs to everyone not just from people of a particular community. We will have to hold hands to ensure that we build it together not separately.

 

Hemant says:

January 17,2010 at 08:42 AM IST

Very thought provoking Tarunji. I hate the political outfits which promote polarisation on religious lines. Particularly BJP and its supporting parties, probably because am a Hindu and always felt ashamed when someone from my community behaved like that. Not that I support such moves from the other religion, but I don't feel the compulsion to stoop lower then them to pay them back. I feel greatfull to you for bringing up such episodes as History needs to be studied and understood as a fact not as someone's interpretation or perception, which is what the Congress leadership run by Kashmiri Pandits is now trying to do. Fail to understand the reasons why they are distorting the history and not making any efforts to rehabilitate Kashmiri Pandits back in the valley. Country belongs to everyone not just from people of a particular community. We will have to hold hands to ensure that we build it together not separately.

 

Hemant says:

January 17,2010 at 08:51 AM IST

Very thought provoking Tarunji. I hate the political outfits which promote polarisation on religious lines. Particularly BJP and its supporting parties, probably because am a Hindu and always felt ashamed when someone from my community behaved like that. Not that I support such moves from the other religion, but I don't feel the compulsion to stoop lower then them to pay them back. I feel greatfull to you for bringing up such episodes as History needs to be studied and understood as a fact not as someone's interpretation or perception, which is what the Congress leadership run by Kashmiri Pandits is now trying to do. Fail to understand the reasons why they are distorting the history and not making any efforts to rehabilitate Kashmiri Pandits back in the valley. Country belongs to everyone not just from people of a particular community. We will have to hold hands to ensure that we build it together not separately.

 

Hemant says:

January 17,2010 at 09:24 AM IST

Very thought provoking Tarunji. I hate the political outfits which promote polarisation on religious lines. Particularly BJP and its supporting parties, probably because am a Hindu and always felt ashamed when someone from my community behaved like that. Not that I support such moves from the other religion, but I don't feel the compulsion to stoop lower then them to pay them back. I feel greatfull to you for bringing up such episodes as History needs to be studied and understood as a fact not as someone's interpretation or perception, which is what the Congress leadership run by Kashmiri Pandits is now trying to do. Fail to understand the reasons why they are distorting the history and not making any efforts to rehabilitate Kashmiri Pandits back in the valley. Country belongs to everyone not just from people of a particular community. We will have to hold hands to ensure that we build it together not separately.

 

satish mayya says:

January 17,2010 at 11:23 AM IST

Fortunately for us , we have Prime Minister who can sleep with these issues. Moment any terrorist /are group terrorists are killed on any part of the world our PM will loose his sleep
It is better for we Indians our PM sleeps and sleeps peacefully!!

 

Thiagan says:

January 17,2010 at 11:38 AM IST

Secularism is injurious to non muslim majorities, if muslimms are a component part of the socieety. Europe and UK are realising it now; why then an affluent, educated and plural country like Switzerland rejects minaret construction.

 

lmsharma says:

January 17,2010 at 11:42 AM IST

Dear Sir,
A political system has no moral right to survive if it can not protect the right to live of its citizen. To the politicians it is immaterial as to who is killed or who is murdered.(Six BSF Jawans were brutally murdered by pouring boiling water by Bangladesh Rifles and the Defense Minister Captain E.C.. Jasvant Singh did nothing) The most they do is lips service and make a political capital out of every killing. Of what use is our force which can not be put to the rescue of its citizen. The Nizam of Hyderabad had to wait for more than two hours at the Begumpet airport to receive the first deputy Prime Minister of India, Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel. The man, who never stepped out of his palace to receive anyone, stood in the scorching heat at the airport. Not only this he (Patel) overnight butchered the Razakars brought by Nizam from Pakistan and by morning everything was peaceful. We don’t have such ministers now days. What we have are ministers who will aid and help in killing our own people at the hands of terrorists. The Pundits are a living example before our eyes, the way these learned people were killed and made to flee their own homeland and yet the so called Sovereign Government of India kept mum. Only to appease the minority and their mentors in Pakistan! Such a government and politicians have no right to live. Look the way our young students are being killed in Australia! INKE KAAN KE UPER JOON NAHIN RAINGTI HAI. They are parasites enjoying on the tax payers hard earned money
Let me add little more to your vast knowledge that Rishi Kashyap after making Kashmir did not limit himself to Kashmir, in fact he went to establish another land around Caspian Sea.This water body in ancient atlases is called Krashap Sagar. And the land from Krashap Sagar to Kashmir was under his domain.

 

pankaj says:

January 17,2010 at 11:47 AM IST

Mr. Tarun how can you write such things , dont you have any 'aman ki asha' in you.
right TOI.

(Reply to pankaj)- ksourabh says:

January 18,2010 at 09:48 AM IST

no wonder India suffered the wrath of invaders for a millennium.......its rather easy to give sermon than to follow, a simple question would make all clear: Would you do aman ki asha kinda thing with the terrorists who come to throw you out of your house?? Just think and if possible reply.

(Reply to pankaj)- arati says:

January 17,2010 at 08:48 PM IST

What aman ki asha. First give them back their right to live in their land - then talk about your stupid good for nothing aman.

(Reply to pankaj)- Rajeev says:

January 19,2010 at 07:43 AM IST

Nice comment..i liked the sarcasm..!! TOI is milking the Aman for its profits..!!

 

BB says:

January 17,2010 at 01:00 PM IST

Thank you Tarunji, for taking up kashmiri pundit's issue. Today mainstream 'secular' media wants us to forget how girija kumari tikoo was gangraped and cut into equal halves under a mechanical saw, but we have people like you. GOI could shed tears for refugees of every country, does this prove that being a hindu only brings disadvantages from politics? Hope their movement will get immense support from common people and force the GOI to rethink its kashmir policy without ignoring the original kashmiris, kashmiri hindus.

 

Satbir Singh Bedi says:

January 17,2010 at 01:15 PM IST

An excellent article. The Kashmiri Pandits have really become refugees in their own homeland but this was not unexpected for wherever Muslims are in majority, they try to expel minority people or convert them to Islam or reduce them to the status of a dhimmi. This is what is happening in Pakistan and Bangladesh also. The Hindus from the NWFP are being expelled slowly but systematically so that they lose their homes and hearths. I know because many of my Hindu relatives have come from Pakistan's NWFP never to return to that country. Similarly, Bangladesh is also expelling Hindus or converting them to Islam. The Hindus are being treated as second rate citizens in Pakistan and Bangladesh. Muslims want to convert the whole world into Islamic State. They are producing so many children in the countries in which they have a sizeable population that the countries would soon become Muslim majority states. Moreover, wherever Muslims have a presence, they start fighting for seizing hold of the particular region of the country where they are in majority. This is happening in Chechnya, in South Thailand, in South Philippines, in Malaysia and of course, in Kashmir Valley. Our civilization, our culture and our freedom are all at stake. If we are not able to fight the Muslims to the finish, we would soon become Muslims ourselves. It is a question of they or us for we people. So, we should come out of our lethargy and fight the Muslims with all our might.

(Reply to Satbir Singh Bedi)- dharma says:

January 22,2010 at 06:48 PM IST

Sikh Panth was created to fight against aggressions on Hindu Dharma. They fought with Muslims but sided with British. Now, they have to join again the mainstream to fight back to Muslims and Christians alike.

 

Rohit says:

January 17,2010 at 01:21 PM IST

Thanks a lot Tarun for highlighting this Date which not many Indian know off.
The night of 19th Jan 1990 and many nights after that was so scary that I still awake in the middle of the night. Probably my mind is still trying to convince me that it was just a Nightmare.
The only parallels which i find from history to which those nights can be compared are what Jews went through at auschwitz,germany under Hitler.

Let all Indians and every living being be made aware of this date.

 

Ganesh S says:

January 17,2010 at 01:29 PM IST

I must compliment Mr Tarun Vijay on the tremendously thought provoking and deeply researched narration of Kashmir's Hindu history and his espousal of the cause of Kashmiri Pandits.There cannot be two opinions on the urgent need to INCLUDE Kashmiri Hindus in any solution of the Kashmir issue.They should not be excluded just because they have either left their homes or have been driven out.I am with Mr Tarun Vijay in all the above aspects.However,as always in his well researched articles he falters on two grounds as always - taking a blinkered one sided view of the cause of the problem and running down the "secularists".Let me ask him a simple question - Who supported and gave lifeline to V P Singh government whose single most contribution to contemporary Indian history is revival of Kashmiri militancy and all the anti - Pandit incidents in the valley happened due to decisions of that government whom Mr Advani and Mr Vajpayee supported.Surely RSS was more assertive in those days than today - why did not RSS give an ultimatum to BJP leaders to bring down V P Singh government ? Second question - whose government went in a bus ride to Lahore ? whose government played host to Musharraf ? Why dont you ever mention that party and its leaders ? As far as history is concerned,I entirely agree and share my anguish at how Akhand Bharat broke into countries and the state it is in today.But surely UPA alone is not responsible for that !!!! Indian history is full of facts where Hindus were never a monolithic entity - fighting together battling the enemy together.They always gave enough space and reason for any attacker to exploit their differences.Akhand Bharat is now a fossilised obsession of a few.What is more real is the manner in which all coutries in the region are now realising where they stand - divided.A confederation will surely be born - later than sooner.But please dont take pot shots at those who want India to be united and dont question the sanctity of Republic Day

(Reply to Ganesh S )- An Indian says:

January 20,2010 at 01:47 AM IST

Excellent Ganesh - It is RSS and BJP what they all did was to make all the pundits leave kashmir and live a miserable life. What did BJP (RSS)do to kashmir pundits during their rule ?????????? TV should Stop bullshitting or faking emotions.

 

kranti says:

January 17,2010 at 01:47 PM IST

"There is no use having SWARAJ,if you cannot defend it.More important than the question of defending swaraj is the question of defending the Hindus under the swaraj.In my opinion only when the Hindu society becomes a casteless society that it can hope to have strength enough to defend itself.Without such internal strength,SWARAJ for Hindus may turn out to be only a step towards slavery._______BR AMBEDKAR

 

Sid says:

January 17,2010 at 01:54 PM IST

Exellent article and an eye opener for many of us. It is indeed sad that such things are never highlighted by the so called 'secular' media, who otherwise never fail to make a hue and cry about even trivial issues. I hope Barkha and company can finally have the guts to come out of their onesided BJP bashing attitude and start calling a spade a spade. Even if it hurts their many 'friends' in the Congress and Government.

 

Dinakar says:

January 17,2010 at 02:03 PM IST

This generation of the youth must read this article, most of them are not aware of such a kind of exodus. The media does not give any coverage to the anniversaries of incidents such as the mass-extermination of lakhs of Kashmiri Pandits or people killed in the Mumbai blasts or for that matter the innumerable blasts that have been occuring throughout the last two decades, it is interesting only in bombarding the anniversaries of the Babri-Majid demolition or the Gujarat riots which were in fact never started by the Hindus in the first place. Probably a Hindu's dead body is not so valuable to attract the attention of the audience!!

(Reply to Dinakar)- PRAVIN says:

January 19,2010 at 05:08 PM IST

Read Mr. Jagmohan's book on J

 

R.C.Mohan says:

January 17,2010 at 02:50 PM IST

Even after a century, we will not get justice from this pseudo-secular country. This country has been in the hands of foreigners and Hindus have no hope of their survival. I heard a minister taking list of candidates in Bihar castewise. You may notice how many Christians shall be selected finally as candidates. This is their 100 year mission. This country shall be a christian country within another 25 years. The Congress Party's hidden agenda is that and they would achieve it. Why one should remain as Hindus? It is not safe in this country.

 

Gaurav Lavania says:

January 17,2010 at 03:34 PM IST

We need to get our nation together ourselves. We the people, not they the politicians

 

Ashoka Kumar Jha says:

January 17,2010 at 04:34 PM IST

The Kashmir problem is creation Mr Nehru in perticular and Congress Party in general. Apart from it every so called progresive , secular and modern intelectuals for whom marx and Macaulayan writers viws and openion regarding India use to be ultimate are the real culprits. These followers has been dominating and dictating the whole affairs through theirs policy of placing each other on position of authority, that is why all the three pillars of democracy, perticularly Media, excutive and judiciary is tottaly in hands of these followers and only due to it Nehru-Gandhi dynasty has been so important.

 

sivasankar says:

January 17,2010 at 04:51 PM IST

Dear Tarunji, fully agree with your reasoning.
Noticably in the entire world, it must be the Kashmiri Hindus only perhaps, who is not fighting for his homeland when compared to his counterparts in Palestine, Israel, Srilanka, Erithriia, some of the former Soviet republics (now separated).

(Reply to sivasankar)- Divakar says:

January 18,2010 at 01:38 PM IST

The places you have mentioned in the comments are fighting for a separate homeland..But Kashmiris are not selfish fellows who just think about themselves. They want to live together with full rights and obligations. Its the only community, i believe, actually endorses the real sentiment of democracy. But thats all in vain till our governments pay heed to the needs and requirements of a community and a culture to leave and survive peacefully and with full rights.

 

Tanmay says:

January 17,2010 at 05:08 PM IST

No Indian media wants to talk about the plight of Hindus. Fact is Hindus have been decimated wherever Islam is or near majority. Pakistan and Bangladesh call themselves Islamic republic and insult the remaining Hindu/Sikh population.

 

Mark says:

January 17,2010 at 05:12 PM IST

Injustices prevail all across the world to different sections of society. When our government doesn't stand up for us, then it is wise to turn to God alone who loves us. How often we forget God and look for help from mortal humans. Jesus has promised that anti-Christ must come and all humans that have not made Jesus Christ as their Lord will be under this dictator called the anti-Christ until Christ returns.

(Reply to Mark)- ksourabh says:

January 17,2010 at 10:08 PM IST

what the hell man, what is your point!!! Are you okay, do you mean to say that the ones who worship Jesus are not the victims of terrorism, what about 9/11......grow up man, think rationally!

(Reply to Mark)- Kaushik says:

January 19,2010 at 11:01 AM IST

Hasn't god given might and a sense of right to mortal humans? then why should god fight our battles?

The rest of your post is a story from some heroic movie, or so it appears. The fact is that many people are suffering, whether they believe in god or not.

(Reply to Mark)- Talking Indian says:

January 19,2010 at 04:59 PM IST

Ok, now it is your turn to preach your God to us. Thanks but no thanks. We have enough already, a good 3 lakh of them... and If and when Christ returns, he will beat a hasty retreat for sure seeing all the mess that is the World today. So, don't have high hopes dude...

 

Tanmay says:

January 17,2010 at 05:16 PM IST

Why is it that Islam is not compatible with secularism and diversity?

A couple of weeks ago, a high court in Mumbai banned a book which called Islam non-secular! Why?

The facts say otherwise.

(Reply to Tanmay)- Kaushik says:

January 19,2010 at 11:03 AM IST

Even more obnoxious was the fact that the same ruling "upheld" freedom of speech. :-)

 

pravin says:

January 17,2010 at 05:56 PM IST

Tarun,

You are a sensative & courageous person, Kashmiri pundits' voice has been silenced by none other than Congress 'secularism'

 

Rajni says:

January 17,2010 at 06:05 PM IST

Even this author is afraid to put the blame where it belongs: The "mainstream" Islam. Nowhere in the world, has Islam shown that it is willing to live with and respect non-Muslims. Islam has to be supreme and in many cases the only religion.

If Hindus do not speak up and/or fight, they will soon be history in India- just like the native populations of Iran and Egypt before Islam came there.

(Reply to Rajni)- arati says:

January 17,2010 at 08:51 PM IST

The astonishing fact is the parsis who are originally from iran and have been driven away from their after islam came into being in iran, also take part in bashing the hindus who let them live with their culture in this country - how shameful, pervert these people are.

 

Vishvaksenah says:

January 17,2010 at 06:06 PM IST

Kudos to TOI and Mr.Tarun Vijay for publishing this wonderful, thought provocative essay.
Mr.Vijay...i agree with each and every word that you have written.
Hope it will make the powers be to think and act in a positive manner.

 

jebellic says:

January 17,2010 at 06:13 PM IST

the pseudo secular policies of indian govt not only decreased the century old love and harmony between muslim and hindu's but created a rift which is hard to fill.

 

Phiroze Kapadia says:

January 17,2010 at 06:42 PM IST

Mr. Tarun Vijay, it so happens that I have also been privy to many such factual incidents narrated by authoritative sources. The misfortune of India is that the propaganda machine of the ruling party has been dominating the media, and there is just no way for people to know the truth. That is why blogs like yours are valuable.

 

wasim says:

January 17,2010 at 07:35 PM IST

tarun vijay known for his communal mind ,he should ask himself about the plight of muslim in india the masscare of muslim during partion and it is continue but this guy want to carry on his hate politice ,how come he forget thousnads of mosque have been demolished by his mentality brothers in india and million of muslim have been killed , want proof go to bhagalpur/gujrat/AP/Mumbai/bangalore/hyderabad/benagale/assam/every where they killed muslim but we will not hate our peace loving hindu brother coz of this of element and i pray that kashmire hindu should return to kashmir and our land should be taken back from pakistan and china and HINDUSTAN should like before from kabul to rangoon ..and from kashmir to lanka ...

(Reply to wasim)- Ramanjit Singh says:

January 18,2010 at 06:07 AM IST

Well what about the thousands of non-Muslims killed by Islamic terrorism?

(Reply to wasim)- sandeep pandey says:

January 18,2010 at 06:06 PM IST

that's really nice of you my friend that u will not hate the Hindus. But can i ask you one question that the places which you had narrated hear, have you taken the trouble to find out that what is the number of Hindus got killed and womens raped there, have taken the trouble of finding the facts about the reason of that riots. Its very easy to blame some without any proof, its is not this media is with you Pseudos a Hindu will suffer

(Reply to wasim)- Kaushik says:

January 19,2010 at 11:12 AM IST

"he should ask himself about the plight of muslim in india"
They're quite well to do in India, wherever they work hard, that is.

" masscare of muslim during partion and it is continue"
More hindus were massacred at partition time. And partition itself was the result of muslims massacring hindus. We did not call for a state of pakistan.

It is definitely not continuing. When was the last time you heard muslims being killed in riots? I'm sure you'll say Gujarat 2002, which was also started by muslims burning children to death in a train. There have been hindus killed in riots since them - Mau, Marad, Bombay, Coimbatore, Bangalore, etc, etc, etc. Why don't you talk about that?

"thousnads of mosque have been demolished by his mentality brothers in india and million of muslim have been killed"
Where do you get your statistics, boss? Thousands of temples have been destroyed and mosques built on them, sometimes, very proudly stating the same. And millions of hindus have been killed, not muslims.

"want proof go to bhagalpur/gujrat/AP/Mumbai/bangalore/hyderabad/benagale/assam/every where they killed muslim"
Aren't these the places where hindus were killed? Have you actually gone to these places? I have gone to all but one and all of them appear to be muslim - majority places. In Bangalore, for instance, I always hear mosques, never temples. I can see rich muslims and poor hindus.

(Reply to wasim)- Rajesh says:

January 19,2010 at 12:35 PM IST

Dear Wasim,

Just let us know from where you have got the data on demolition of mosques in India???especially post Independence.

You need to set right your statistics dear!!!

(Reply to wasim)- Thiagan says:

January 19,2010 at 01:23 PM IST

Hi, wasim, the Hindu population in Pakistan, B'desh and the Valley have disappeared; they are doing minority cleansing in Malaysia now. You have no right to talk about Gujarat. The richest, the most educated and developped country, Switzerland, has rejected the followers as undesirables. UK also has refused permission for a megha mosque in London yesterday. You are the most unwanted people world over.

(Reply to wasim)- Talking Indian says:

January 19,2010 at 05:03 PM IST

Wasim, appreciate your noble thoughts. But, I think we already have enough problems as it is. The last thing we should wish for is to inherit a Taliban infested Pakistan, a LTTE scarred Lanka, a Junta oppressed Myanmar, a Maoist raped Nepal, etc. If all Indians focused on just getting along and contributing just about anything to the country, we will be more than fine, I'm sure

(Reply to wasim)- Anand Prakash says:

January 20,2010 at 02:13 PM IST

Where ever muslim have killed every where because of they have started kiling of Hindus first. Bhagalpur/Gujrat/AP/Mumbai where ever u quote Muslims have stared rioting first bcz they feel islam is in danger. They dont have confidence on their religion. First behave your self and try to live like peaceful citizen automatically the things will change. But u people do not know how to live peacefully

(Reply to wasim)- anil says:

January 20,2010 at 03:33 PM IST

what about muslims who carried campaigns of mass murder,loot,plunder,rape,kidnaping enslavement of infidels since inception of islam, and effaced civilizations of persia,egypt,mesopotamia,babylonia.Their entery into india were also militaty compaigns.These iconoclastic people where ever they went destroyed indegenous arts,sculptures,temples,churches etc.,latest example being bamian buddha.Destruction of temples and churches is still going on in places like malaysia,bangladesh etc. As a matter of fact all religious places destroyed by you should be reclaimed.

 

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January 17,2010 at 07:49 PM IST

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(Reply to Nachiketh)- Ramnajit Singh says:

January 18,2010 at 06:06 AM IST

Where is the Muslim response the the thousands of temples destroyed by them? Fact most of the mosques and churches in India were built on top of Hindu temples. Even Mecca predates Islam!

 

DINNESHCHANDRRA SHETHH says:

January 17,2010 at 08:22 PM IST

WE BHARATIYA HINDUS/JAINS/BUDDHISTS HAVE NO TRUE POLITICAL REPRESENTATIVE,ALL ARE FOR ISLAMS/CHRISTIANS AND THEY LABEL THEMSELVES AS SECULAR. ONLY LORD KRSIHNA CAN SAVE US.

 

Mohd. Johirul says:

January 17,2010 at 08:43 PM IST

Terrorism in our country started because of hindus of UP, they demolished babri masjid just because they think that Ayodhya is the birth place of Ram,(b/w many hindu politicians themself have admitted that Ram never existed and its all just mythological),they also killed thousands of muslims in the following riots.
Then hindus in Gujurat masscared thousands of muslims after the inside job of Godhra train burning (it has been proved that muslims were not responsible for it).
The above two incidents are the main reason for the terrorism in our country, and the accused are still roaming free in both the cases.

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Vikram says:

January 18,2010 at 09:12 AM IST

There is no Allah either. Just like Ram, he exists only in your imagination.
Stop fighting for invisible Gods and live life peacefully.

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Venkat says:

January 19,2010 at 11:58 PM IST

Terrorism in India started in 740 AD. History doesnt start from Dec 6th 1992, remember that. Dont quote selective periods of history. History is continuous since the days of Maryada Purushottam Sri Ram Ji's days. Lord Ram was living human legend, invisible

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- ksourabh says:

January 18,2010 at 10:13 AM IST

I pity you for your myopic visionary thoughts, well for your first argument, terrorism in India started when the muslim invaders in the form of Ghazni, Ghori and Babur came to loot India and raze our temples.
You and some of the Hindu politicians who have similar vision as of yours say that Ram never existed, well lets assume Ram never existed but that is the point, people are mad after somebody who never existed and they spit on Babur and Aurangzeb who indeed existed, so its not a matter of physical existence man its something much more than that, Ram exists in the heart of every Indian, the ones who denies his existence also has him in his/her heart, one's myopic myopic vision prevents one to see him.
As far as Gujarat is concerned the UC Banerjee committee report (which frees the muslim fanatics of their guilt in Godhra train burning) you are referring to has been termed illegal and unconstitutional by the Hon'ble High Court of Gujarat. And the retaliation that followed after Godhra incident was inadvertent, that was simply the repercussion which resulted in the loss of lives of innocents (both Hindu and Muslim sides). So none of the reasons given by you are actually in any way responsible for terrorism in India......come with some solid reasons man, don't just write for the sake of writing here!

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- ksourabh says:

January 18,2010 at 10:13 AM IST

I pity you for your myopic visionary thoughts, well for your first argument, terrorism in India started when the muslim invaders in the form of Ghazni, Ghori and Babur came to loot India and raze our temples.
You and some of the Hindu politicians who have similar vision as of yours say that Ram never existed, well lets assume Ram never existed but that is the point, people are mad after somebody who never existed and they spit on Babur and Aurangzeb who indeed existed, so its not a matter of physical existence man its something much more than that, Ram exists in the heart of every Indian, the ones who denies his existence also has him in his/her heart, one's myopic myopic vision prevents one to see him.
As far as Gujarat is concerned the UC Banerjee committee report (which frees the muslim fanatics of their guilt in Godhra train burning) you are referring to has been termed illegal and unconstitutional by the Hon'ble High Court of Gujarat. And the retaliation that followed after Godhra incident was inadvertent, that was simply the repercussion which resulted in the loss of lives of innocents (both Hindu and Muslim sides). So none of the reasons given by you are actually in any way responsible for terrorism in India......come with some solid reasons man, don't just write for the sake of writing here!

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Totha says:

January 18,2010 at 01:09 AM IST

Heyyy Johirul, Are you sure of what you are saying or are you just now coming out from some "Indoctrination class"..because if you know what you are saying...then you wouldn't have correlated the beginning of terrorism with Babri Masjid that happened some years back...or Godhra that happened only recently.
Brother, wake up.....Terrorism was has been in India since decades....
Punjab... and then My Land-Kashmir has been inflicted by atleast "Overt" Terrorism from about 25 years now....
And like you I didn't say...that this terrorism was started in the name of "some" religion... or belonging to a particular religion...

Where R U? Again in some closed room of "Indoctrination Class" with no windows....???
:)

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Ramanjit Singh says:

January 18,2010 at 06:03 AM IST

Well Mohammad, I am not sure where you are getting your "facts" from but they are inconsistent with reality. I am sure you are one of those delusional individuals who say 9/11, 7/7, Mumbai attacks, Kashmir ethnic cleansing are inside jobs, to spoil good name of Muslims, lol. Also if Ram is mythological, Mohammed is too. How can a colonizer, mass murderer and child abuser be a person of God?

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- LK says:

January 18,2010 at 06:07 AM IST

Mohd. Johirul,

Unfortunately most of the muslims (like you) have been brainwashed by mullas and 'secularist' who wants to keep the people fighting so that they can keep their positions.
Ram temple : The structure which you call mosque, have you ever visited it? It had idols on the pillars (I have seen it from my own eyes). why govt is not ready to do excavation and get the truth. It doesn't matter whether Ram existed or not. the truth was there was a huge temple on his birth place, which was broken as was the case in Mathura and Varanasi (please check the Kasi Vishwanath temple and adajacent mosque and you don't need any one to tell you the story .. the only requirement is to have an open mind).. As far as muslisms getting killed in roits, who started it ? why India was to be set on fire if something happens to one structure.. but muslims did planned attacks through out the country and hindus ritaliated, unlike earlier times ..
Your community needs to come out of shell and have to search for the truth of their own benefit

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- UP ka Hindu says:

January 18,2010 at 05:52 PM IST

Johirul, The incident mentioned here happened in 1990 much before Babri Masjid

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- sandeep pandey says:

January 18,2010 at 06:03 PM IST

my friend i think you are living the some 4th or 5th world as your ignorance is showing the same

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Indian says:

January 18,2010 at 07:14 PM IST

Correct! When all this was happening muslims were sitting in their home watching soap on TV. Stop bull-shitting and own responsibility for something. Even Allah would not have thought that documenting his thought and dreams in a language that most Indian muslims cannot even read will cause so much problem. How can muslims kill in the name of GOD and how can any god accept those killings? When will the mullahs talk of peace and when will the muslims learn to live in peace???

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Akhand Bharat says:

January 19,2010 at 05:44 AM IST

there is a common factor about the terrorism everywhere . Its "ISLAM" .
Do you negotiate with bacteria or virus ? You don't
You eradicate them.
So you smart ass liberal hindus do the needful

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Akhand Bharat says:

January 19,2010 at 05:44 AM IST

there is a common factor about the terrorism everywhere . Its "ISLAM" .
Do you negotiate with bacteria or virus ? You don't
You eradicate them.
So you smart ass liberal hindus do the needful

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Kaushik says:

January 19,2010 at 11:17 AM IST

"Terrorism in our country started because of hindus of UP"
Who're you kidding?

"hey demolished babri masjid"
It was a disputed structure where muslims did NOT pray. It was already in ruins anyway. The very fact that you revere a forcefully built structure by an invader speaks alot about your communal mindset.

"b/w many hindu politicians themself have admitted that Ram never existed and its all just mythological"
How about the "dialogues" that your prophet had with "god"? Are they not mythological??

"they also killed thousands of muslims in the following riots."
Wrong. IN the ensuing riots, thousands of muslims killed hindus.

"Then hindus in Gujurat masscared thousands of muslims "
Even the pro-terrorism parties like congress and communists have accepted that only 900 muslims were killed - that too after children were burnt alive by muslims in the train.

"the inside job of Godhra train burning (it has been proved that muslims were not responsible for it)"
Proved by whom??

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Kaushik says:

January 19,2010 at 11:17 AM IST

"Terrorism in our country started because of hindus of UP"
Who're you kidding?

"hey demolished babri masjid"
It was a disputed structure where muslims did NOT pray. It was already in ruins anyway. The very fact that you revere a forcefully built structure by an invader speaks alot about your communal mindset.

"b/w many hindu politicians themself have admitted that Ram never existed and its all just mythological"
How about the "dialogues" that your prophet had with "god"? Are they not mythological??

"they also killed thousands of muslims in the following riots."
Wrong. IN the ensuing riots, thousands of muslims killed hindus.

"Then hindus in Gujurat masscared thousands of muslims "
Even the pro-terrorism parties like congress and communists have accepted that only 900 muslims were killed - that too after children were burnt alive by muslims in the train.

"the inside job of Godhra train burning (it has been proved that muslims were not responsible for it)"
Proved by whom??

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Rajesh says:

January 19,2010 at 12:32 PM IST

Dear Mohd. Johirul, The Ambassador of Muslims,

You people pose to be so innocent even if you hide a knife to cut a throat of non followers of Islam.

Gujrat/Godhra was one of the case of retaliation by Hindus...prior to that there used to be min 2-3 riots per year and Hindus used to get butchered by Muslims.
Change your mind set dear!!!else u might have to see much similar thing in future as we also became non vege...like you.

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Aradhana Khosla says:

January 19,2010 at 01:13 PM IST

Ignorance,Hatred,Bigotry and living life in dreams of becoming a majority are the symptoms of disease which Indian muslims are infected with. A systamatic propoganda machinery coupled with the obsolete and hatred full knowledge of holy books have created this generation of muslims who are represented by people like Mohd. Johirul on these platforms. I simply pity you not for the ignorance you have on topic we are discussing here but for the upbringing you have received from your parents and society. Muslims of india need a doctor who can cure them of their own shortcomings which have become disease now. Young people like you are just a pawn in hands of Jehadis who have taught you only what suits them. Open your horizon learn the facts and then argue.

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Aradhana Khosla says:

January 19,2010 at 01:13 PM IST

Ignorance,Hatred,Bigotry and living life in dreams of becoming a majority are the symptoms of disease which Indian muslims are infected with. A systamatic propoganda machinery coupled with the obsolete and hatred full knowledge of holy books have created this generation of muslims who are represented by people like Mohd. Johirul on these platforms. I simply pity you not for the ignorance you have on topic we are discussing here but for the upbringing you have received from your parents and society. Muslims of india need a doctor who can cure them of their own shortcomings which have become disease now. Young people like you are just a pawn in hands of Jehadis who have taught you only what suits them. Open your horizon learn the facts and then argue.

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Thiagan says:

January 19,2010 at 01:27 PM IST

Mohd. Rubbish. Read about mopla riots in Kerala in 1921. Thousands of Hindus were killed and hundreds of Hindu woemen were raped.

(Reply to Thiagan)- KERALITE MUSLIM says:

January 24,2010 at 04:51 AM IST

british was responsible for it and not muslims.

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- R Gupta says:

January 19,2010 at 04:00 PM IST

We need a government now that will stop giving all extra privilages to minorities/muslim communities. It should have been enough that was being accorded to them for years. In return, Hindu community got hatred and back stabbing from this unfaithful community. Looking at the history, during Mogul emperor regime, they killed their own brothers, banished their fathers, killed anyone who did not bow to them, even cut the fingers on poor construction workers who were architect of TajMahal sculptures. This killing and hate feeling are in their gene and they cannot control it.

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- AdiPita says:

January 19,2010 at 04:38 PM IST

Mr.Johirul ,
Can you pl. enlighten us regarding your views on the holocaust in Kashmir.

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- pravin says:

January 19,2010 at 05:02 PM IST

Mohd Johirul

what @ kashmiri pundit ???

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Talking Indian says:

January 19,2010 at 05:06 PM IST

Wow! That was funny... ROTF LMAO... oops.. wait. Someone like you probably does not know what that means. They don't teach that to you during the Friday prayers. The acronyms mean: Rolling on the Floor.. and Laughing my ass off...

You, for one, have a very vivid imagination my friend... You must write stories...better.. you must write fairy tales...But, only in your case it will be called "Mullah Tales" ...You funny man.. love you

(Reply to Talking Indian)- ksourabh says:

January 21,2010 at 10:36 AM IST

I would love to read the funny Mullah Tales.....lol

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Talking Indian says:

January 19,2010 at 05:06 PM IST

Wow! That was funny... ROTF LMAO... oops.. wait. Someone like you probably does not know what that means. They don't teach that to you during the Friday prayers. The acronyms mean: Rolling on the Floor.. and Laughing my ass off...

You, for one, have a very vivid imagination my friend... You must write stories...better.. you must write fairy tales...But, only in your case it will be called "Mullah Tales" ...You funny man.. love you

(Reply to Talking Indian)- ksourabh says:

January 21,2010 at 10:36 AM IST

I would love to read the funny Mullah Tales.....lol

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Anand says:

January 19,2010 at 05:54 PM IST

Wrong dear. It started long before Babri Demolition. Get ur facts right. The genocide of Kashmiri Hindus by Pakistanis with complicity of J

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Varun Shekhar says:

January 19,2010 at 07:50 PM IST

That's ridiculous, to link all terrorism in India with Ayodhya. You are in effect justifying that terror by referring to the 1992 event. How long are the Islamic terrorists going to retaliate against Ayodhya, for the next 100 years? That's lunatic!

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- james says:

January 19,2010 at 07:55 PM IST

u ppl will always be without any logic. thse were the best instanses to happen to a muslim in indian histroy.all u ppl have done in india is to kill people ravage their wealth, capture their land and demolish their place of worship... read ur history first and at the very start of ur history u will know who raped a 12 year old girl SAQUIA.

allah hafuz

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Rajesh says:

January 20,2010 at 03:03 PM IST

Mohd. Johirul,

How can you say that RAM never existed and its all just mytholigical? Agreed if this is the thing which our pseudo secular politicians project..... What about Mohammad? Is there concrete proof of his existance?

You must refrain from putting such comments.. and how come the moderators pass on these and delete my responses.

(Reply to Rajesh)- ksourabh says:

January 21,2010 at 10:41 AM IST

strongly seconded...TOI often does that!

(Reply to Mohd. Johirul)- Imran Patel says:

January 22,2010 at 04:39 AM IST

WELL SAID JOHIRUL, NO BODY COULD HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT THESE FANATIC HINDUS POSTING AGAINST US, THEY SHOULD FIRST TAKE CARE OF THEIR INTERNAL PROBLEMS, JUST SEE HOW MARATHI HINDUS ARE TREATING HINDUS FROM UP AND BIHAR.
EVEN RIGHT WING HINDUS LIKE BAL THACKERY DON'T LIKE UP HINDUS.

 

RAMESH AGARWAL says:

January 17,2010 at 10:01 PM IST

TARUNJI, IT IS AN EXCELLANT PEICE OF ARTICLE NARRATING BITTER TRUTH ABOUT OUR COUNTRY!S SECULARISM WHICHM MEANS ATTROCITIES ON HINDUS AND APPEASEMENT OF MUSLIMS.WE ARE FACING UBNTOLD SUFFERINGS DUE TO KASHMIR A PROBLEM CREATED BY LATE NEHRUJI.NO ONE BOTHER IN INDIA ABOUT THE INJUSTICE METTED OUTTO HINDUS WHETHER IN KERLA (LOVE JEHAD) OR ASSAM OR IN NE.EVERY ONE TALKS ABOUT GUJRAT RIOTS BUT NEVER THINKS ABOUT KASHMIR AND PLIGHT OF PANDITS. IF YOU TALK YOU ARE TERMED AS COMMUNAL.EVEN PRESS, AUTHORS INTELKECTUALS HUMANISTS AND TV CHANNELS NEVER TALK ABOUT THIS PROBLEM. IT ONLY SHOWS THE MENTALITY OF MUSLIMS WHO CAN NOT LIVE WITH OTHERS EXCEPT ON THEIR OWN TERMS THAT IS TO EMBRACVE ISLAM, IT IS DISGUSTING BUT UNFORTUNATELY OUR COUNTRY IS NOT READY TO LISTEN INSTEAD COMPROMISING WITH LOCAL SUPPORTERS OF TERRORISTS.ONLY GOD CAN SAVE THIS COUNTRY UPA ERA IS WORST FOR US WHO DARED TO EVEN GIVE AN AFFADEVID IN SC DENYING EXISTENCE OF BHAGWAN RAMJI AND RAM SETHU?IS ANY MORE INSULTING THAN THIS?NOT AT ALL BUT SINCE HINDUS ARE NOTB UNITED IT WILL CONTINUE.

 

khaqsar says:

January 18,2010 at 12:04 AM IST

Dear Tarun,

If Pakistan and Bangladesh can be Islamic Republic , why shouldnt we be Oriental republic which recognise only Indian religiosn like Hindu , Sikh , budhist , jain.. who have lived happily for 1000s of years.. these Celtic and Semetic religions are painful and create wars nothing less.

(Reply to khaqsar)- Amreesh Sharma says:

January 19,2010 at 11:08 AM IST

Agreed

(Reply to khaqsar)- A S CHAUHAN says:

January 20,2010 at 12:03 PM IST

Great-888 ! What a fantastic Question

(Reply to khaqsar)- Keval says:

January 20,2010 at 02:13 PM IST

Celtic religions were complex poltheistic religions, they were not much different from our own religious systems with freedom to chosse deit and respecting the nature. They themselves have been suppressed and persecuted by Christianity (which is a semitic religion like Islam and Judaism- all three better known as Desert Dogmas or Abrahamic faiths). Now there is some movement in europe and Britain to recover those ancient faiths which had been lost and broken from the historical documents or mere legends. Fortunately, our ancestors preserved the ancient chain unbroken in the face of aggressive desert dogmas.

 

Srikanth says:

January 18,2010 at 12:12 AM IST

Hi Sir,
I was trying to contact you but could not find a source better than this to communicate to you. I have recently viewed a talk show on a top English news channel, the editor of which was awarded a top govt title for his "journalism". The topic of the show was on the Kumbh Mela. I must say I was deeply hurt the way in which it was conducted particularly the comments of a professor from my home town, Hyderabad. I'am not sure why most of the media has taken the crusade of this hindu bashing at the slightest opportunity they get. When will they stop this?

(Reply to Srikanth)- Reader says:

January 18,2010 at 03:12 AM IST

Yes I did also watch that show.My friend that media house(and many more) are controlled by external equity holders.The result is clear -even the editorial content is now dictated by these new masters!

(Reply to Srikanth)- sandeep pandey says:

January 18,2010 at 06:01 PM IST

my friend this will not stop until Hindus don't feel that they are suffering and will try to remove the mask of Pseudo Secularism

(Reply to Srikanth)- james says:

January 19,2010 at 07:49 PM IST

i dont understand what is happening,, why r we hindus being treated as second class citizes in our own country

(Reply to Srikanth)- Rajiv sri says:

January 19,2010 at 10:33 PM IST

why are u scared to say name? Is it IBN

(Reply to Srikanth)- dharma says:

January 20,2010 at 06:52 PM IST

when you awaken O Hindu and fight for your glory as to what ChhatraPati Shivaaji did !!!

 

true indian says:

January 18,2010 at 01:34 AM IST

I agree with Tarun Ji, the land of Kashmiri Pandits must be restored. Muslims will need to come forward and invite them back to build their confidence. The problem is this psuedo-seculr govt that does not want hindus and muslims to unite or else how will get the minority votes

 

Das says:

January 18,2010 at 04:27 AM IST

Just recounting history, albeit factual, without any remedy is an exercise in futility. Why was this allowed to happen and what is a viable long-term solution to prevent this from happening again is the relevant, pertinent and timely question. Some of the reasons that weakened the Indian people so that were easily overrun sadly continue to exist even in the 21st century, such as rampant caste-based hatred and divide, rich-poor divide and corrupt bourgeois. Solve these Indians will be undefeatable and even think of taking over unifying the above mentioned parts of Bharat. Otherwise, just wait for further humiliation, loss of territory and wretchedness.

 

pranav says:

January 18,2010 at 06:34 AM IST

probabably no one is raising the concern ,. no one crying because hindus are majority ... see .. what you got in great indian democary where majority people can't raise there voice as they are in majority .. no political party has ever raised this concerned..

 

Chiru says:

January 18,2010 at 07:59 AM IST

Excellent blog and excellent elucication ..Tarun..Its poignant story of all hindus.My sympathy to all of them, but there is a reason behind all this, we lack unity a unity to emphasize out importance to the world. A unity to be brave and a unity to stand by one good reason. Its abt all hindus,We need to be united and respect our community

 

Vikram says:

January 18,2010 at 09:15 AM IST

A question for those of you who praised this article as thought provoking -
Would you be Hindu if you were born by chance into a Muslim family in India?

 

Siddharth Sharma says:

January 18,2010 at 09:51 AM IST

Tarunji has again come to the party.Great Article! the whole Indian media talks about the Gujarat riots, they don't leave a chance to criticize Modi and his counterparts, but what about kashmir? How can the so called Secular Indian Media just turn its back on such an atrocity committed to the Kashmiri Hindus?

We proudly say that Kashmir is ours...What about the people who were original inhabitants of Kashmir and were driven out by sheer force backed by the state government?Think of those people who have been living as refugees in their own nation.Bollywood is busy in promoting films with "khan" titles, who cares about a Kaul or a Mattoo..

..and we call ourselves a democratic society with secular credentials!!

 

Inder says:

January 18,2010 at 10:24 AM IST

The author says that Mosques loudspeakers blared the warnings to Hindus to leave without their women fold.... No one finds this disgusting?

I thought intolerance and hatred are part of radical Islam but it seems when Mosques are involved it is part of mainstream Islam.

And I don't see any Kashmiri Muslims trying to call for Hindus to re-settle in their homes in Kashmir. Let's face it these Hindu/Pandit families' generations go way beyond the arrival of Islam in India.

 

Parijat Kaul says:

January 18,2010 at 12:19 PM IST

One would have been happy to see such an effort from the writer when his party was in power.
Like pseudo-secularism we must try and refrain from pseudo-hinduism too.
One may ask What steps did NDA government take to have J&K state register cases in violence against Kashmiri Pandits? How many cases were filed by the NDA government throughout its tenure? How many cases were referred to any central agency for investigation?
I would suggest that Tarun Vijay and others of his ilk now sit back and stop any kind of mongering in the name helping Kashmiri Pandit community.
The case should have been taken up by NDA when they were in power. Then they chose to overlook the cause, like many others that brought NDA to power. What they are doing now is only going to harm the community further.
But then if the community wishes to commit harakiri who can stop them.

 

Rajesh says:

January 18,2010 at 12:43 PM IST

Tarun Ji,

Thanks for a thought provoking article!

I wish, you could also write on the Tirupati Temple management by non-hindus, done by Congress.

Really I wonder to listen this even, cos nobody can dream that a Hindu managing a a mosque or a church anytime in distant future too... We Hindu's have become too coward actually.

 

Rahul Raina says:

January 18,2010 at 01:29 PM IST

Panun Kashmir is full of wimps...A hundred of them can be scared by a single militant using a toy gun They have no guts and only people with balls should win. KP's dont deserve a damn thing cause they want it served on a platter.They want everyone else to fight their war. They wont do it for themselves. And I know many who will come up with lame excuses for why they did not fight. I would have been more proud of my kins had they died fighting instead of taking the easier way out and fleeing.

 

eshaan says:

January 18,2010 at 02:26 PM IST

wen will u learn to look to the future and not live in the past!! i pity u and ur like minded people

 

G.Sriniwasan says:

January 18,2010 at 03:44 PM IST

Thanks to an excellent article by Tarunji.I have come to one firm conclusion.Why blame Islam and Pakistan?We Hindus of India are STUPID.Europe although liberal and secular guards its freedom and liberalism close to the heart.Here we Indian Arse holes look upon to an Italian,who cares a damn for Hindu Sensitives to guide our Destiny along with Dr.McMohan who will wake up only when Moslems interests are affected as he is guarding the chair for his Italian Mentor.What better proof of Indian/Hindu Stupidity is required.No wonder when we say Hindu Majority India,the world in particular the Pakistanis look upon India with Contempt.

 

Rahul Trivedi says:

January 18,2010 at 03:55 PM IST

This is such an emotional and awaking article, We as citizens of Indian Republic have the right to ask the government that why they are not taking any decision on restoration of 'Kashimiri Pundits' and if the government is not able to that why is it keeping them in sub-standard, sub-human situations, what's there fault??? only that they are HINDUS...??
we, Hindus of India should join together and become a force and should take our rights back, should take our respect back..the respect which we deserve..We should ask this govenment that why are we ignored..when we consititute the biggest vote bank for this government..?
but for this we need to Unite as a Community. All the readers should think twice on this...this is for your good..if you don't act now..you would loose your remaining identity..which we have already lost...its not about 'Kashmiri Pundits' only, it could be you next time... and then don't plead for help because you didn't act when those in need asked for help and your support..
ACT NOW..or YOU would REPENT!!

 

Pranav Joshi says:

January 18,2010 at 04:57 PM IST

Hi
I am a youngster - just 22 years old. I believe in secularism, but in true secularism. Here are some things I think should be done to restore justice to everyone in India:

1) Find out the true culprits of every communal riot in India. Whether it was the Sikh riots, the Babri demolition or the Gujarat massacre. Whether it is Congress in 1984, BJP and sister parties in 1992 or Muslim miscreants/BJP and sister parties in 2002. There would be enough evidence to prove that Congress had a hand in the 1984 Sikh riots, BJP in the 1992 demolition, Muslims burnt the Sabarmati express in 2002 (yes, I believe this), and that BJP/VHP/RSS killed 2000 Muslims in the riots that followed. Punish the guilty within a year of the findings, even if it is Modi or Advani or Muslim mullahs or some SP/Congress leaders.

2) Introduce the Common Civil Code. Abolish the Muslim Personal Law Board.

3) Ban Bajrang Dal (and Ram Sene). Also ban SIMI 1, 2, 3 whatever, and Sanathan Santha or whatever they are called. All extremists, whether Muslim fanatics or Hindu ones, are dangerous to India.

4) Return Kashmiri Hindus to Kashmir and provide them good living and freedom.

5) No Deoband or Ulema or any organization should issue any warnings or fatwas against education, birth control etc. The offenders should be arrested.

6) End the hypocrisy of false seculars. Ask them point blank, why they do not protest the killings of Hindus. If they don't answer or give vague answers, punish them.

7) Ayodhya temple is an old issue. But Ram Sethu need not be destroyed. It appears that the government is taking a biased stand on the issue. Apart from being of religious significance, Ram Sethu preserves ecological balance.

8) It is irrelevant whether Islam is compatible or incompatible with true secularism or pluralism. Only true democracy can be allowed in India. No religious leaders, Hindu, Muslim, Christian or any others can have a say in politics...contd

 

Pranav says:

January 18,2010 at 05:07 PM IST

9) Purge the BJP of influence from the fanatic part of the RSS. Instead of being violent and practising eye-for-an-eye, start advocating and preaching the spiritual and tolerant aspect of Hinduism which has no parallel in the world.

10) No minority quota or preference should exist. Muslims must learn to assimilate themselves in the Indian society before they make accusations. For centuries India has suffered barbaric Muslim attacks (In undivided India in 1946-47 23% of the population was Muslim, so the invaders forcibly converted millions in the last 1000 years).
Muslims must educate themselves and their women well, must follow secular laws. They must believe in secularism themselves before they try to condemn the communal Hindu parties. They cannot marry 4 times, beat their wives, say talak 3 times and get divorced, or refuse to practice birth control, simple as that.

11) Stop mushrooming of madrassas in India, even if mullahs cry hoarse about it.

I do not know how exactly all this can be achieved, but I strongly suspect we need honest leadership which is also willing and unbending to religious pressure whether from Muslims or Hindus. Irrespective of whether such leaders are born in BJP or Congress, we really need them. If we are indeed secular, lets be truly secular and not pseudo-secular.

 

Pranav says:

January 18,2010 at 05:09 PM IST

9) Purge the BJP of influence from the fanatic part of the RSS. Instead of being violent and practising eye-for-an-eye, start advocating and preaching the spiritual and tolerant aspect of Hinduism which has no parallel in the world.

10) No minority quota or preference should exist. Muslims must learn to assimilate themselves in the Indian society before they make accusations. For centuries India has suffered barbaric Muslim attacks (In undivided India in 1946-47 23% of the population was Muslim, so the invaders forcibly converted millions in the last 1000 years).
Muslims must educate themselves and their women well, must follow secular laws. They must believe in secularism themselves before they try to condemn the communal Hindu parties. They cannot marry 4 times, beat their wives, say talak 3 times and get divorced, or refuse to practice birth control, simple as that.

11) Stop mushrooming of madrassas in India, even if mullahs cry hoarse about it.

I do not know how exactly all this can be achieved, but I strongly suspect we need honest leadership which is also willing and unbending to religious pressure whether from Muslims or Hindus. Irrespective of whether such leaders are born in BJP or Congress, we really need them. If we are indeed secular, lets be truly secular and not pseudo-secular.

 

Pranav says:

January 18,2010 at 05:11 PM IST

9) Purge the BJP of influence from the fanatic part of the RSS. Instead of being violent and practising eye-for-an-eye, start advocating and preaching the spiritual and tolerant aspect of Hinduism which has no parallel in the world.

10) No minority quota or preference should exist. Muslims must learn to assimilate themselves in the Indian society before they make accusations. For centuries India has suffered barbaric Muslim attacks (In undivided India in 1946-47 23% of the population was Muslim, so the invaders forcibly converted millions in the last 1000 years).
Muslims must educate themselves and their women well, must follow secular laws. They must believe in secularism themselves before they try to condemn the communal Hindu parties. They cannot marry 4 times, beat their wives, say talak 3 times and get divorced, or refuse to practice birth control, simple as that.

11) Stop mushrooming of madrassas in India, even if mullahs cry hoarse about it.

I do not know how exactly all this can be achieved, but I strongly suspect we need honest leadership which is also willing and unbending to religious pressure whether from Muslims or Hindus. Irrespective of whether such leaders are born in BJP or Congress, we really need them. If we are indeed secular, lets be truly secular and not pseudo-secular.

 

Pranav says:

January 18,2010 at 05:11 PM IST

9) Purge the BJP of influence from the fanatic part of the RSS. Instead of being violent and practising eye-for-an-eye, start advocating and preaching the spiritual and tolerant aspect of Hinduism which has no parallel in the world.

10) No minority quota or preference should exist. Muslims must learn to assimilate themselves in the Indian society before they make accusations. For centuries India has suffered barbaric Muslim attacks (In undivided India in 1946-47 23% of the population was Muslim, so the invaders forcibly converted millions in the last 1000 years).
Muslims must educate themselves and their women well, must follow secular laws. They must believe in secularism themselves before they try to condemn the communal Hindu parties. They cannot marry 4 times, beat their wives, say talak 3 times and get divorced, or refuse to practice birth control, simple as that.

11) Stop mushrooming of madrassas in India, even if mullahs cry hoarse about it.

I do not know how exactly all this can be achieved, but I strongly suspect we need honest leadership which is also willing and unbending to religious pressure whether from Muslims or Hindus. Irrespective of whether such leaders are born in BJP or Congress, we really need them. If we are indeed secular, lets be truly secular and not pseudo-secular.

 

AJ says:

January 18,2010 at 05:49 PM IST

Always the same topic!!! Amazing. Dont you get bored? Please be a little varied, and unbiased for a change. write, for example about the Palastinian exodus from what is now Israel, or the Godhra riots too, for a change. I bet you wouldnt print this! Only those "Great article!" kind of stuff gets printed. Sad you dont like criticism.

 

sandeep pandey says:

January 18,2010 at 05:59 PM IST

once again you had opened the controversial part of the Indian Media and politics that in the nation of 85% Hindus, hindus are only suffering the most and still they are blamed to be communal. Its very sad that there is no media coverage on this serious issue to the so called label of Pseudo Secularism and increasing the TRP of the channel and selling more copies of news paper. I thank you from the heart for this article

 

g e says:

January 18,2010 at 06:17 PM IST

SAD. Even if we leave out the "secular" elements what has the "Hindutva" groups done for Pandits. Its easy to ask for votes in the name of Hindutva, but so tough to do something for Kashmiri Pandits?
SHAME SHAME

 

Aravind says:

January 18,2010 at 06:44 PM IST

Our media has to be blamed for forgeting this aspect; Tarunji has atleast tried to help the cause of the Kashmiri Hindus. Our Secular Congress has no time for this; they are bussy fighting internally to be in power and loot. It is high time that we take firm stand on each and very issues; otherwise it will have long term impact on our Nation.

 

Ganesh says:

January 18,2010 at 06:47 PM IST

The bleeding heart secularists and appeasers have ample time to debate the Palestine cause.Kashmiri Pandit is a non starter for them.The Left front govt in kerala did raise a fund for the Palestine cause by extortion from the public. The Hindus with any self esteem must pooh poon the Palestine cause because they are the most tracherous souls on planet earth.Hindus pls give highest priority for the Kashmiri Pandits issue in all future election campaigns.

 

RAMESH Manvati says:

January 18,2010 at 07:42 PM IST

Tarun Vijay's post "Deportation of a nation" is timely, brilliant and a soul stirring nerration of our Nation's failure to protect its 'soul'. Thankyou Tarun .
In case India has to survive in Kashmir,the policy makers need to rethink about their approach towards dealing with 'Kashmir'issue.
The nation needs to look J&K State in its totality i.e."Jammu,Kashmir and Ladhak". And, ensure return of forcibly exiled community of Kashmiri Pandits to their Homeland as per their aspitations.

Mahatma Gandhi had seen a 'ray of hope' in Kashmir. But how many of us are aware that is not a single statue of the Mahatma In entire Kashmir valley ???

Orzuv !

RAMESH Manvati
_______________________________________________

 

Paresh says:

January 18,2010 at 08:30 PM IST

Why is is that TOI and other Indian media does not publish this news story in print editions of their newspapers? Internet is accessed by very few Indians. Does not the media have any morals and responsiblity to highlight ethnic genocide and religious intolerance in India? Oh, wait a second, it does not apply when Hindus are victims!!

 

Esha says:

January 18,2010 at 08:50 PM IST

Author says Afghanistan had strong Hindu/Buddhist population at one time. This is news to me. We all know Hindus have been wiped out in Pakistan and now in Kashmir. And what have Muslims achieved in those Islamic states? More intolerance, hatred and terror!

 

Esha says:

January 18,2010 at 08:57 PM IST

Author says Afghanistan had strong Hindu/Buddhist population at one time. This is news to me. We all know Hindus have been wiped out in Pakistan and now in Kashmir. And what have Muslims achieved in those Islamic states? More intolerance, hatred and terror!

 

Esha says:

January 18,2010 at 09:14 PM IST

Author says Afghanistan had strong Hindu/Buddhist population at one time. This is news to me. We all know Hindus have been wiped out in Pakistan and now in Kashmir. And what have Muslims achieved in those Islamic states? More intolerance, hatred and terror!

 

Arshad says:

January 18,2010 at 09:31 PM IST

This is perhaps the most disgusting and sickening story I have read of Hindus' plight in their own country at the hands of Muslims. But it is the Muslims who are complaining and whining all the time.

Also to note that no Hindu has gone to Kashmir and massacred their civlians in a terror attack. Something the Indian media or Muslims will not appreciate. Meanwhile the deafening silence of so call Muslim secularists over this ethinic genocide of Hindus is just unbelievable. I believe the reason is that most Muslims believe Hinduism has no place or right to exist wherever Muslims are.

And that explains lack of any temples in most Muslim nations. But then why are Hindus so secular? Even at the point of putting Muslim rights first?

 

lmsharma says:

January 18,2010 at 10:21 PM IST

It looks as if there is no godfather of Hindus in their own land so called Hindustan. Even the father of the nation Mahatma Gandhi would fast if the Muslim were killed and would ensure that Hindus were disarmed. I am reminded of an incident in Aligarah where a petty Muslim cyclist was accidentally hurt by a mobike, within no time the entire community along with police force was at the side of the Muslim leaving the mobiker to his ill fate. The Hindus were the first to be put behind the bars. It looks as if we are paying a heavy price for being a majority. .There is a systematic and intentional hidden agenda to wipe out Hindus from Kashmir backed by the central government. The central government becomes a Lilliputian when the Shahi Imam of Jamma Masjid roars. It would have been in the best interest of the country had Sardar Patel been given free hand to deal the Kashmir issue. He would have butchered and shaven their beards paving a strong path for a peaceful living for Kashmir Pundits (thanks to US and NATO forces completing the incomplete work of Sardar Patel). Unfortunately, he died only to give free hand for immature and shortsighted Nehru to deal with things.

 

VS says:

January 18,2010 at 11:47 PM IST

Tarun What do you have to say about 1984 riots in which hindus killed sikhs ? or of gujarat riots in which hindus attacked muslims ?

let's not have a one sided view of things as hindu or muslim. Fanatics and bigots are in all religions and all are anti national including you who provoke hatred in people's heart.

 

RAMESH Manvati says:

January 19,2010 at 12:29 AM IST

Tarun Vijay's post "Deportation of a nation" is timely, brilliant and a soul stirring nerration of our Nation's failure to protect its 'soul'.

Thankyou Tarun .

In case India has to survive in Kashmir,the policy makers need to rethink about their approach towards dealing with 'Kashmir' issue. The nation needs to look J&K State in its totality i.e."Jammu,Kashmir and Ladhak". And, ensure return of forcibly exiled community of Kashmiri Pandits to their Homeland as per their aspitations.

Mahatma Gandhi had seen a 'ray of hope' in Kashmir. But how many of us are aware that there is not a single statue of the Mahatma in entire Kashmir valley ??? Countrymen wake up !

Orzuv !

RAMESH Manvati

 

infidel says:

January 19,2010 at 01:02 AM IST

islam is to 21 century what nazism was to 20th century...f**k muhamad

 

B.R.Singh says:

January 19,2010 at 02:39 AM IST

Dear Tarunjee,
I agree with your views, but all the time repeating same story, harping on the same reed it is quite boring. Too much sweets also become bitter. Take up new burning topics.

 

Mrugesh says:

January 19,2010 at 07:27 AM IST

Tarunji,
Thanks for such a nice article. Thanks TOI for having guts to pblish it. After all other congress media like NDTV are busy taking up isolated case like Ruchika at behest of congress,it is better to raise mass concern. Look how home minister gave a hearing after NDTV took the cause of Ruchika indirectly hinting at its importance. Same time NDTV published stupid article about prince William of England following Rahul Gandhi's footstep on visiting poor in London. Prince William joined military to serve his nation. Gandhi family are you hearing this. Any takers?

Thanks TOI for publishing article that emphasizes mass concern.

 

AP says:

January 19,2010 at 12:00 PM IST

I empathize with Kashmiri Hindus, Tarunji I suggest mailing a copy of this to Omar and Farookh Abdullah as well as madam and her baby boy!

I feel disgusted that muslims in our neighboring countries are hell bent on destroying the minority (Hindus) but here in India we do exactly the same at times!! Shameful to be an Indian.

 

Manuj Bahl says:

January 19,2010 at 12:55 PM IST

Lets stop playing the role of victim for long and go back to the grind of regular life" thats what is the standard phrase used by the community in 90's in Jammu. being a jammuite it was difficult for me to understand what had happned to them as i may have been only 12 at that time. In due course of time i have seen the kashmiri pandit migrating from jammu to other parts of india and getting settled down there with minimum fuss. is adaptability a curse wouldn't had it made government wake up from sleep if they had marketed their plight in better way. We hindus do not know how to do that. we do not have the power of bollywood which is chrning out movies one after one on the discrimation muslims go through but except one movie made by a kashmiri director not even a documentary have been made by the bollywood on the plight of hindu's and the genoside undertaken by the muslims of kashmir. Why? because media, intellegensia and government are not bothered about hindis.Our plight do not make any news for them, one act of discrimation against a muslim becomes national news(remember emraan hashmi being refused a home by the owner) but killing of scores on hindu's and migration of nearly a million of them have no impact. We as a community have failed our brothers and sisters of kashmir. Lets introspect in ourselves when was the last time we had even discussed their plight and the inhuman circumstances of refugee camps in jammu. when was the last time mainstream media have shown any news related to them. I have all my sympathy for what happen to brothers in 1984 riots and Gujrat and dully condemm that but i am extremely disappointed with the reactions from muslims of this country and so called intelligent secular hindu's o fthis nation who have no time nor concern in heart for the hindus in general and Pandit's of kashmir.

 

amar says:

January 19,2010 at 12:56 PM IST

as usual fabricated and one side story.Keep it up ...

 

Puneet Gupta says:

January 19,2010 at 02:01 PM IST

I agree..WE must ensure that kashmiri pandits retun safely to the valley...That should be the first priority..

 

AdiPita says:

January 19,2010 at 04:30 PM IST

Dear Tarunji ,
You have to be lauded time & again for highlighting the issue of holocaust of Kashmiri Hindus. Its difficult to understand that any issue be it in Kandhmal ,Babri or in Godhra is highlighted & debated out of proportion a major issue like this is never touched in media. Are we as a people afraid to hurt others sentiments at the cost of inflicting misery & sorrow on our own people .Though we Hindus believe in secularity we should stop being soft targets to other communities. I think we should take up martial arts & pay more attention on our physical & mental getup , aka Israelis so that there will be no more holocaust like in Kashmir. Otherwise , forget Kashmir , the day is not far when the whole country will be up for grabs to the so called jihadis & islamists.

 

PRAVIN says:

January 19,2010 at 04:57 PM IST

Dear all,if we think that India is a secular country then :
1. Why Kashmiri Hindus are expelled from Kashmir ? which is very much integral part of India. Kashmir is not for Muslims alone.
2. Where are those Human Rights Commission people?Where are media people like Barkha Dutt, Pranab Roy, Rajdeep ETC. Are they dumb & deaf @ this
3. Why seperatist leaders of Huriyat, Yassin Malik, PDP, Mufti Mhd Syed & others are permitted to visit PAK leaders quiet often ? They are the sold to PAK culprits for Kashmiri Pundits situation.
4. I must recommend to every Indian that they should read Mr. Jagmohan's ( Former Governor of J & K in 1989) book "My Frozen Turbulance" on J & K problem. It elaborates on historical & grave mistakes committed by our political leadership (by V P Singh, even Rajiv Gandhi too )absence of courage to tackle the situation etc. This book gives us the exact scenario of the J&K problem right from the events starts from 1947 & onwards.
4. International community has now very much sure about our image of "soft state" & india's sorry state of "non-action" approach towards the cilptits responsible for past horific attacks on Indian (26/11, Sansad bhavan etc.)

Is there a "will" in our political leadership to come out of it ???

 

PRAVIN says:

January 19,2010 at 04:58 PM IST

Dear all,if we think that India is a secular country then :
1. Why Kashmiri Hindus are expelled from Kashmir ? which is very much integral part of India. Kashmir is not for Muslims alone.
2. Where are those Human Rights Commission people?Where are media people like Barkha Dutt, Pranab Roy, Rajdeep ETC. Are they dumb & deaf @ this
3. Why seperatist leaders of Huriyat, Yassin Malik, PDP, Mufti Mhd Syed & others are permitted to visit PAK leaders quiet often ? They are the sold to PAK culprits for Kashmiri Pundits situation.
4. I must recommend to every Indian that they should read Mr. Jagmohan's ( Former Governor of J & K in 1989) book "My Frozen Turbulance" on J & K problem. It elaborates on historical & grave mistakes committed by our political leadership (by V P Singh, even Rajiv Gandhi too )absence of courage to tackle the situation etc. This book gives us the exact scenario of the J&K problem right from the events starts from 1947 & onwards.
4. International community has now very much sure about our image of "soft state" & india's sorry state of "non-action" approach towards the cilptits responsible for past horific attacks on Indian (26/11, Sansad bhavan etc.)

Is there a "will" in our political leadership to come out of it ???

 

AP says:

January 19,2010 at 05:53 PM IST

Incredible India!!

 

Amreesh Sharma says:

January 19,2010 at 06:18 PM IST

bang on as usual by Mr Tarun Vijay withhis witty and to the point articulation supported by facts which are evidence in themselves. Evryone knows truth and we have to accept it to keep intact our cultural and civilizational values with pride and honour...Long live Traun Vijay and keep posting the eye-openers all the time..One of the intellectuals in his own domain....JAI HIND

 

vishal says:

January 19,2010 at 07:48 PM IST

sir ji,,

how should i thank u.. its aleays so pleasing to read you,, i find so much peace that atleast we hindus are finding smthing of our own in national media lol(read TOI)..But as long as we r not united nothing can be done.
I recently found that in NDTV shows We the people, sm obc leader named ILLIAYAH RAJA called goddess DURGA as evil and doing NAMASTE as form of racism. Same indian media went haywire when minarets were banned in a public vote 8000 miles away in switzerland. we r so secular, i dont understand where these mediawallas will find themselves when india becomes muslim majority, a slightest provocation in mae of allah will probably be enough
to chop heads off.

R we hindus fighting a loosing battle, time will tell, but all i can say that
indias heart is hindu
indias soul is hindus
indias ethos are hindu
and indias values are hindu

the sooner hindus realize that the sooner we will be able to get the lands back we will relinquished toinvaders

ULTISTHA BHARAT

 

TRUTH says:

January 20,2010 at 03:10 AM IST

Ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Majority India is a Sad Fact.Ironically for some vested ideological factors Indian Institutions and Individuals especially the so called "intellectuals" want to deny, downplay and bury this heinous crime against humanity. It is the worse of all human rights violations but leftist Human Rights organizations (as was evident during Maoist episode)justify the cleansing and claim Kashmiri Hindus deserved it. Since victims are Hindus it is acceptable. Its reality maybe because they lacked any united front or institution. Tragically GOI do not recognize these victims and their sufferings and feels no responsibility towards them. And India by choice is not a member of the International Criminal Court as such these Hindu victims can not get justice even from ICC by cases there... In short non-Kashmiri Hindus are to be blamed for not standing for their brothers when they were being thrown out of their ancestral homelands only because they were "Hindus".....

 

TRUTH says:

January 20,2010 at 03:14 AM IST

Ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Majority India is a Sad Fact.Ironically for some vested ideological factors Indian Institutions and Individuals especially the so called "intellectuals" want to deny, downplay and bury this heinous crime against humanity. It is the worse of all human rights violations but leftist Human Rights organizations (as was evident during Maoist episode)justify the cleansing and claim Kashmiri Hindus deserved it. Since victims are Hindus it is acceptable. Its reality maybe because they lacked any united front or institution. Tragically GOI do not recognize these victims and their sufferings and feels no responsibility towards them. And India by choice is not a member of the International Criminal Court as such these Hindu victims can not get justice even from ICC by cases there... In short non-Kashmiri Hindus are to be blamed for not standing for their brothers when they were being thrown out of their ancestral homelands only because they were "Hindus".....

 

Capt. Ajay Tripathi says:

January 20,2010 at 09:30 AM IST

Tarunji, many tks for reminding us of this date and sufferings of many Kashmiris which is being erased from the memories as you mentioned.

 

A Thinking Indian says:

January 20,2010 at 10:59 AM IST

Definitely a thought provoking article. It is really unfortunate for those people who had to leave their land, memories and beloved ones behind.My heart goes with them and all those who had to leave their homes and live like refugees.
But the malice is much deeper and older. It all started with the British even when they had to leave India they sowed a seed of hatred in the name of Kashmir. Then the first Prime Minister and subsequent governments at the center and the J&K governements did not pay attention to Kashmir and ignored as if it was not part of our country, when they should have taken care of it the way they took care of punjab and may be more and in a better way. By creating more employment opportunities and more education which would have made the people of Kashmir occupied and the education would have made them to differentiate between good and bad. Instead they kept ignoring their burning issues as they have been doing for the rest of north east India.
Now the same people who were neither employed nor educated became soft targets of our so-called neighbors, who could not digest Bangla Desh being taken away from them, they have been holding grudge against our nation and waiting for the right opportunities. First they tried their hands on Punjab(khalistan issue)and then Kashmir(jehadist) with the help of their perennial godfathers in the west, and they are still doing. To add fuel to the fire some of our law enforcement agencies like and Army have profiled targetted the minority communities, and the so-called fundamentalist parties actions and then the demolishing of Babri Masjid and the subsequent riots which killed many poor people and the rampant violence which followed and the free roaming of those so called leaders who are the perpetrators of such violence has created a sense of lack of faith in the law of the land and the constant brainwashing across the border has its effects. But the general population is still very Indian at heart.JaiHind

 

avtar singh chauhan says:

January 20,2010 at 11:34 AM IST

The facts & figures ,along with the present & past episodes depicting the true happenings so brought
out by the master penmaster have remained unchallenged for all the times to come . All those who ever ventured to dissent ,simply fell flat ! Wish Tarun Ji a happy ,healthy & long life to keep serving the oppressed ,who are the victims of the divide & rule policy of the rulers just to garn & gather a few votes to remain in power . Looking ahead for better time to lead & serve the mankind
, its interests & the country :BHARAT DESH !

 

anil says:

January 20,2010 at 03:21 PM IST

this is not a new phenomenon.It is policy enunciated by islamic scriptures that after their numbers increase beyond a critical mass non muslim population should be displaced.It is only our leaders,diplomats/beurocrats and main stream media feign tobe blind to it.Burning example are afghanistan,fata & swat valley,kashmir and no entery zones in many western european cities.

 

Dwj says:

January 20,2010 at 03:49 PM IST

Kashmiri Hindus were living in a fool's paradise earlier when they were of the opinion that they were only living happily with the kashmiri muslims, praising themselves for the secularism they were following, for the illusory communal harmony that was prevalent there at that time. Whem islam showed what it was in 1988, it is now for us to see their plight. Same is the case with all the Hindus throughout India. Hindus refuse to learn not ony from history but also from contemporary happenings. They are always in a myth of communal harmony, brotherhood and secularism, unmindful of what is in store for them from the muslims. Muslims, once they come to know that they can call the shots, doomed is the future of the non-muslims living with them. Hindus will be no exception. Earlier Hindus realise this, better. Otherwise no future for the Hindus, Hindusthan and Hinduism.

(Reply to Dwj)- ksourabh says:

January 21,2010 at 10:54 AM IST

this is exactly what's going to happen in near future.....but still there would be no change because the Hindus are one of the laziest classes of people in the world, no one is going to take it to the roads except writing comments here!

 

harminder says:

January 20,2010 at 07:11 PM IST

excellent write up by Tarun Vijay

the so called "secular educated elite " are nothing but totally dhimmified pro muslim softies .

these abound in the congress and present day UPA government

another community , virtually wiped out over the last 200 years are the Punjabi Khatris . The proud punjabi khatris ruled and owned entire swathes of land on the other side of the indus river , in as recent as 1860. Shah Waliullah and Shah Brelvi changed all that and slaughtered the entire community . Punjabi Khatris were forced to convert to islam, their children sodomised, their women gang raped and their lands just taken away.

Kashmiri Pandits have gone thru the same jehadi treatment in the 20th century

Its ironic to note that notable personalities of both communities in India today, Punjabi Khatri and Kashmiri Pandits are pro muslim and completely dhimmified.

The punjabi khatri has been kicked out by the muslim again in their last indian bastion, the bollywood moviedom , in this century. NOW where will the punjabi khatri go?

 

abq says:

January 20,2010 at 11:13 PM IST

Why is the Government not trying to resettle the kashmiri pundits back to Kashmir ? or is there politics involved ?

 

hortense vaughan says:

January 21,2010 at 09:43 PM IST

The fact that Hindus do not now live in the Kashmir valley is an inditement of the Hindu goverments of India who did not have the
fortitude to resist the forces that drove the Hindus from the valley.
Basically it means that Indians cannot live where they like in India and Mr Thackeray is now doing the same in Gurajat

 

amit dogra says:

January 23,2010 at 09:40 AM IST

Most of the kashmiri pundits don't want to go back to the valley which is a hard fact.Almost 35% of kashmiri boys and girls are married outside their community and living happily in metros. What would they do incase they are resettled in the valley. Prominemt personalities of PANUN KASHMIR and ROOTS IN KASHMIR are based in Delhi. Instead of finding a peaceful solution to problem they are in favour of carving out a separate area for them.

 

bikramjit says:

February 05,2010 at 09:36 PM IST

Take example of 1984 Sikh riots.. WHy is it that Hindus have problem and when the same happeend to them in a different state it was terrible..

In my eyes it is a hypocracy everywhere.. What suits to who.. Nothing is done about Hindus exodus , nothing is being done about Sikhs and Nothing is beign done about Muslims problems ..
SO talking of one perticular group is HYPOCRACY.. this happeened in 1990.. The sikh riots in 1984.. How come there is no one talking about that.. THe so called HINDU Mp are given tickets to become leaders again.. AT LEAST that is not happeening in Kashmir..

 

sanjay says:

February 17,2010 at 08:43 PM IST

Does secularism means ignore the plight of Kashmiri Pandits? Shame Shame Shame

 

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