Good inside story of the state of Jammu and Kashmir. It is good that Indian National Flag is unfurled on the Republic Day in Ladakh, Kashmir and Jammu. Each successive govt has tried to uncomplicate the J and K problem without much fruitful results.
However Delhi is always supportive of J and K by extending massive financial aid as sustaining on its own resources is not yet felt feasible.
People of J and K have resolved to be an integral part of India and giving practical shape to this status depends upon people. As Indians people of J and K enjoy rights throughout India. And converse should also be allowed.
The state must identify the gaps and bridge those earliest to link with the main national stream.

Well..after reading this article and the constitution right to Kashmir, Must confess that I fee india is the occupying forces and Pakistan is quite right in raising this issue, Either Kashmir is a part of INDIA whereby the they follow the indian constitution which applies to all other states or IT IS NOT PART OF INDIA..with so much confusion on this NO WONDER CHINA IS GIVING VISA FOR KASHMIRI RESIDENTS IN A SEPARATE SHEET OF PAPER AND NOT ON INDIAN PASSPORT..looking at it now yes they are right too,is that the reason the enlightened media and SRK (moon fellow) too not raising voice against the plight of KASHMIRI HINDUS..becos according to this article is quite clear that KASHMI does not belong INDIA..

Why cry about one J&K?If the same family continues to rule this country there will be more states with sparate flags.In the forefront of this list are Nagaland and Mizoram.We would have progressed from appeasing Muslim majority state to Christian majaority states.

Tarun you missed to mention about the U.N.Resolution August 13, 1948. Part three of this resolution says: The Government of India and the Government of Pakistan reaffirm their wish that the future status of the State of Jammu and Kashmir shall be determined in accordance with the will of the people and to that end, upon acceptance of the truce agreement, both Governments agree to enter into consultations with the Commission to determine fair and equitable conditions whereby such free expression will be assured. Now I hope you understand why Kashmir has a special status.

Tarun you missed to mention about the U.N.Resolution August 13, 1948. Part three of this resolution says: The Government of India and the Government of Pakistan reaffirm their wish that the future status of the State of Jammu and Kashmir shall be determined in accordance with the will of the people and to that end, upon acceptance of the truce agreement, both Governments agree to enter into consultations with the Commission to determine fair and equitable conditions whereby such free expression will be assured. Now I hope you understand why Kashmir has a special status.

There are not only two flags; one for India and another one for J&K but there are two constitutions also; one for India and another one for J&K. I have written many times to the President of India but have received no reply in the matter.

It's just the appeasement policy. Don't you know that fortune favours the brave? So, raising the Kashmiri flag is the bravery of Kashmiri muslims. What more can you expect? For the rest of India, we cannot enter Kashmir 'cos we go by resolutions and not dictatorship. So democracy has its own flaws.

SINCE UPA HAS COME TO POWER THINGS ARE BECOMING BAD TO WORST.APPEASEMENT TO MUSLIMS AS A MATTER OF SHOWING GRATITUDE TO BRING HER INTO POWER IS GOING ON.OUR PARLIAMENT HAS PASSED A RESOLUTION THAT POK WILL BE GOT BACK TO MERGE WITH UNION OF INDIA AND FOR THAT A FEW SEATS FROM THAT AREA FOR ASSEMBLY ARE RESERVED.JUSTICE SAGIR AHMED REPORT HAS BEEN WRITTEN IN HIS PERSONAL CAPACITY AND WITHOUT CONSULTING OTHER MEMBERS.IT ONLY SHOWS THE ATTITUDE OF MUSLIMS THAT THEY ARE FIRST MUSLIMS THEN INDIANS AND THEIR LOYALITY IS MORE WITH PAKISTAN.ONCE ACCESSION HAS BEEN COMPLETED THERE IS NO NEED.IT WAS UPA WHO FORMED GOVT. WITH PDP AND WHATEVER THE BLUNDER DONE BY NEHRUJI WE ARE PAING IF GOVT. IS NOT STRICT THEN NOT ONLY KASHMIR BUT MANY OTHER STATES WILL BE FORMED WITH SIMILAR MENTALITY.20 YRS HAVE BEEN PASSED WHEN 5 LAKHS KASHMIRI PANDITS WERE EXPELLED FROM VALLEY BUT NO ONE INCLUDING MEDIA RAISED THE ISSUE WHILE GUJRAT RIOTS AND AYODHYA ISSUES WERE GIVEN OUT OF PROPORTION COVERAGE.SONIA/MMS ATTITUDE TO REMAIN IN POWER AT THE COST OF INTEGRITY OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE VERY UNFORTUNATE.THIS MATTER SHOULD BE RAISED BY ALL PATRIOTICS AND PRESS OTHERWISE THINGS WILL BE WORST.LET THERE SHOULD BE NO OTHER PARTITION OF THE COUNTRY.DUE TO MUSLIM APPEASEMENT EVEN WE ARE ABLE TO DEAL TERRORISM WITH IRON HANDS AND KEEPING 5 CRORES ILLEGAL BENGLADESHIES AND MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN GIVEN INDIAN CITIZENSHIP.JUST FOR VOTE BANK.IT SEEMS OUR LEADERS ARE EXPERT ONLY IN INCREASING PROBLEMS RATHER THAN SOLVING THEM.

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This article exposes the mis-management in governance of India graphic terms. If not entirely mis-management at least sub-standard mindset in comparison to those of standards set by US, Sri. Putin , Japan even Uk in terms of nationalism.
Last evening on TOi tv , there was this debate on Food prices et all. Though it was heartening to hear terms such as ‘supply demand’ and other management clichés for once by those in government, the comprehension of the terms with relation to entire India was lacking by those in government.
This is the root issue- to get real- that has to be reformed or changed from the current mindset in government for most issues to be first world like , including the one raised by Sri. Tarun Vijay.
Now for example supply and demand is largely measured by variable& convenient supply SI units ( due to various, but controllable reasons) then through our faucet model PDS, traders, shopkeepers, middlemen et all- to the demand. Today demand is measured by variable& convenient demand SI units but based by those who can pay and those who can afford i.e. the people who have the money. But the majority of India may not have the money for all that is essential. And for example, due to supply, culture is adjusted in South India, to not have for example Cheese on the breakfast platter , though there are many who can pay.
So demand is tremendous, in essential commodities, in milk products, education everything.
The govt mindset is also to ensure that the people remain substandard to protect vested lobbies.

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This article exposes the mis-management in governance of India graphic terms. If not entirely mis-management at least sub-standard mindset in comparison to those of standards set by US, Sri. Putin , Japan even Uk in terms of nationalism.
Last evening on TOi tv , there was this debate on Food prices et all. Though it was heartening to hear terms such as ‘supply demand’ and other management clichés for once by those in government, the comprehension of the terms with relation to entire India was lacking by those in government.
This is the root issue- to get real- that has to be reformed or changed from the current mindset in government for most issues to be first world like , including the one raised by Sri. Tarun Vijay.
Now for example supply and demand is largely measured by variable& convenient supply SI units ( due to various, but controllable reasons) then through our faucet model PDS, traders, shopkeepers, middlemen et all- to the demand. Today demand is measured by variable& convenient demand SI units but based by those who can pay and those who can afford i.e. the people who have the money. But the majority of India may not have the money for all that is essential. And for example, due to supply, culture is adjusted in South India, to not have for example Cheese on the breakfast platter , though there are many who can pay.
So demand is tremendous, in essential commodities, in milk products, education everything.
The govt mindset is also to ensure that the people remain substandard to protect vested lobbies.

The amount of corruption in the govt in India is so much that people have stopped bothering about what happens in future. A govt which has increased its salaries and pensions to 5 times of what is paid by medium scale private companies at the expense of poor Indians is enough to make average Indian believe that GOI hell bothers about aam admi. So people will also apply short cuts and now no more bother about the country or its politicians or rulers.

There should be 1 constitution, and that will be the Indian one.
Otherwise, I will stop paying taxes and subsidizing the lives of the Kashmiri Muslim terrorists, both supported by Congress and supported by Pakistan, and I will ask my Indian citizens to do the same.
The Congress senior leadership deserves to be hanged in public for such a high treason against the people of India.
They are selling out Kashmir for 30 pieces of Silver. The poetry-spouting Vajpayee also tried the same, for his place in history.
Shame on these self-serving traitors who con us every second they rule us.
Let's open Kashmir up to the pent-up Hindu rage in the rest of India.
Enough of Omar Abdullah and Mehbooba Mufti.
Let armed and trained Hindu settlers storm into Kashmir valley from Jammu, Haryana, Bihar, MP, Bengal, Assam, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, led by armed and trained Kashmiri Pandits, and then we will see which flag really flies over Lal Chowk.
We will clean up Kashmir from the jehadis and their patrons forever, and the Mufti-s and Addullah-s can go hide into their rat holes Pakistan has dug up for them (along the border).

This apathetic government will do nothing, but rather, betray the cause of India and let India be fragmented, for a few million dollars in their bank accounts.
Never before in the history of independent India we had such a poor and harmful leadership that wanted to subvert the Indian cause.
Time to rise beyond the government and the so-called-secular-English media, and let us Indians snatch Kashmir back from the jaws of Muslim terrorism.
Let us make Kashmir a part of India as it should be. It cannot continue to drink every drop of water, breathe every ounce of air subsidized by Indian money, yet use Islamic terrorism to blackmail itself away from India.
Enough is enough.
Time to burn that 'second flag', assign 'Kashmiriyat' to the dustbin of history, and let India come to Kashmir.
Only the tricolour will fly over Lal Chowk.
I rest my case.

There should be 1 constitution, and that will be the Indian one.
Otherwise, I will stop paying taxes and subsidizing the lives of the Kashmiri Muslim terrorists, both supported by Congress and supported by Pakistan, and I will ask my Indian citizens to do the same.
The Congress senior leadership deserves to be hanged in public for such a high treason against the people of India.
They are selling out Kashmir for 30 pieces of Silver. The poetry-spouting Vajpayee also tried the same, for his place in history.
Shame on these self-serving traitors who con us every second they rule us.
Let's open Kashmir up to the pent-up Hindu rage in the rest of India.
Enough of Omar Abdullah and Mehbooba Mufti.
Let armed and trained Hindu settlers storm into Kashmir valley from Jammu, Haryana, Bihar, MP, Bengal, Assam, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, led by armed and trained Kashmiri Pandits, and then we will see which flag really flies over Lal Chowk.
We will clean up Kashmir from the jehadis and their patrons forever, and the Mufti-s and Addullah-s can go hide into their rat holes Pakistan has dug up for them (along the border).

This apathetic government will do nothing, but rather, betray the cause of India and let India be fragmented, for a few million dollars in their bank accounts.
Never before in the history of independent India we had such a poor and harmful leadership that wanted to subvert the Indian cause.
Time to rise beyond the government and the so-called-secular-English media, and let us Indians snatch Kashmir back from the jaws of Muslim terrorism.
Let us make Kashmir a part of India as it should be. It cannot continue to drink every drop of water, breathe every ounce of air subsidized by Indian money, yet use Islamic terrorism to blackmail itself away from India.
Enough is enough.
Time to burn that 'second flag', assign 'Kashmiriyat' to the dustbin of history, and let India come to Kashmir.
Only the tricolour will fly over Lal Chowk.
I rest my case.

There should be 1 constitution, and that will be the Indian one.
Otherwise, I will stop paying taxes and subsidizing the lives of the Kashmiri Muslim terrorists, both supported by Congress and supported by Pakistan, and I will ask my Indian citizens to do the same.
The Congress senior leadership deserves to be hanged in public for such a high treason against the people of India.
They are selling out Kashmir for 30 pieces of Silver. The poetry-spouting Vajpayee also tried the same, for his place in history.
Shame on these self-serving traitors who con us every second they rule us.
Let's open Kashmir up to the pent-up Hindu rage in the rest of India.
Enough of Omar Abdullah and Mehbooba Mufti.
Let armed and trained Hindu settlers storm into Kashmir valley from Jammu, Haryana, Bihar, MP, Bengal, Assam, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, led by armed and trained Kashmiri Pandits, and then we will see which flag really flies over Lal Chowk.
We will clean up Kashmir from the jehadis and their patrons forever, and the Mufti-s and Addullah-s can go hide into their rat holes Pakistan has dug up for them (along the border).

This apathetic government will do nothing, but rather, betray the cause of India and let India be fragmented, for a few million dollars in their bank accounts.
Never before in the history of independent India we had such a poor and harmful leadership that wanted to subvert the Indian cause.
Time to rise beyond the government and the so-called-secular-English media, and let us Indians snatch Kashmir back from the jaws of Muslim terrorism.
Let us make Kashmir a part of India as it should be. It cannot continue to drink every drop of water, breathe every ounce of air subsidized by Indian money, yet use Islamic terrorism to blackmail itself away from India.
Enough is enough.
Time to burn that 'second flag', assign 'Kashmiriyat' to the dustbin of history, and let India come to Kashmir.
Only the tricolour will fly over Lal Chowk.
I rest my case.

There should be 1 constitution, and that will be the Indian one.
Otherwise, I will stop paying taxes and subsidizing the lives of the Kashmiri Muslim terrorists, both supported by Congress and supported by Pakistan, and I will ask my Indian citizens to do the same.
The Congress senior leadership deserves to be hanged in public for such a high treason against the people of India.
They are selling out Kashmir for 30 pieces of Silver. The poetry-spouting Vajpayee also tried the same, for his place in history.
Shame on these self-serving traitors who con us every second they rule us.
Let's open Kashmir up to the pent-up Hindu rage in the rest of India.
Enough of Omar Abdullah and Mehbooba Mufti.
Let armed and trained Hindu settlers storm into Kashmir valley from Jammu, Haryana, Bihar, MP, Bengal, Assam, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, led by armed and trained Kashmiri Pandits, and then we will see which flag really flies over Lal Chowk.
We will clean up Kashmir from the jehadis and their patrons forever, and the Mufti-s and Addullah-s can go hide into their rat holes Pakistan has dug up for them (along the border).

This apathetic government will do nothing, but rather, betray the cause of India and let India be fragmented, for a few million dollars in their bank accounts.
Never before in the history of independent India we had such a poor and harmful leadership that wanted to subvert the Indian cause.
Time to rise beyond the government and the so-called-secular-English media, and let us Indians snatch Kashmir back from the jaws of Muslim terrorism.
Let us make Kashmir a part of India as it should be. It cannot continue to drink every drop of water, breathe every ounce of air subsidized by Indian money, yet use Islamic terrorism to blackmail itself away from India.
Enough is enough.
Time to burn that 'second flag', assign 'Kashmiriyat' to the dustbin of history, and let India come to Kashmir.
Only the tricolour will fly over Lal Chowk.
I rest my case.

Mr. Tarun Vijay, I would request you to take a break and dig the conditions of Muslims in India and killings of Kashmiri Muslims by the Indian troops mercilessly or if it is not happening show what happened in the past. I would like you to shed light in the same way on Gujarat riots. Please look at what Muslims go through. We just want to live in Peace. Let us live in peace. Don't preach hatred against Muslims which is absolutely and completely false irrespective of your beautiful presentation, please RSS and VHP for once and think in a neutral fashion. I urge you to be neutral and also at the Muslim misery and be kind to us. Please talk about how Muslims are discriminated day in day out in secular India and stop quoting extra ordinary exceptions, talk for the common Muslim. Please write something for us. You have wonderful presentation but Sanatic approach. Please be neutral and stop yellow journalism.

Mr. Tarun Vijay, I would request you to take a break and dig the conditions of Muslims in India and killings of Kashmiri Muslims by the Indian troops mercilessly or if it is not happening show what happened in the past. I would like you to shed light in the same way on Gujarat riots. Please look at what Muslims go through. We just want to live in Peace. Let us live in peace. Don't preach hatred against Muslims which is absolutely and completely false irrespective of your beautiful presentation, please RSS and VHP for once and think in a neutral fashion. I urge you to be neutral and also at the Muslim misery and be kind to us. Please talk about how Muslims are discriminated day in day out in secular India and stop quoting extra ordinary exceptions, talk for the common Muslim. Please write something for us. You have wonderful presentation but Sanatic approach. Please be neutral and stop yellow journalism.

Dear Sir,
Your pain is genuine when a nation has two flags one for India and another for J&K. It is sad to know that the former PM of India who promised a number of times that on becoming PM he will throw out each and every Bangladeshi Muslim from India. When his wish was fulfilled he was unable to throw out even a child, what to talk of a grown up man! The BJP has been all the time shouting and howling to scrap the special status given to J$K but on coming to power the same party was unable to implement its own policy. All these political parties are. EAK HI THAILE KE SAB CHATTE BATTE HAIN. How so ever loudly I or anyone may cry these people are not going to pay any attention. They have hypothecated the country’s soul to Mephistopheles. In words of former librarian of Russian defense ministry” Every Indian Politician is willing to sell India” What can we accept from such a political leadership?

This was not enough now Its ridiculous that the new version "Phir miley sur" doesn't come upto the expections of Kashmiris and J&K people because there were kashmiri lyrics in the earlier version of Mile sur Mera tuhmara but they have been removed this time and many new lyrics added to it although the length of the video has been considerably increased.
This video is prepared by Times of India

I totally agree with Tarun. It is a national shame. This problem is created by the Nehru family. Govt. publish the photo of a Pakistani along with PM of our country without being offended ( as mentioned by MOS Ms.Teerath)?The problem is not that the legacy of Nehru-Gandhi brand will ruin this great country. the problem is we the people who are suffering this without any protests.

this is shamefull for all INDIANS.But question is how to awake people for this change?

MY FRIEND WHO IS A PROCSECUTING LAWYER AGAINST ABU SALEM, HE CLEARLY TOLD ME THAT SALMAN KHAN AND ABU SALEM ARE VERY GOOD FRIENDS, AND EVEN SALMAN KHAN IS PAYING FEES TO ABU SALEM'S LAWYERS. SO DON'T CALL SALMAN KHAN A TRUE INDIAN. WAKE UP INDIANS......

We will soon have 32 flags and 32 Constitutions... It is all set for fragmentation and balkanization of India. that is what China , pakistan and our SOuth Block in ND wants.. Shame on Indian Politicians.

so we have BIMARU states which are blackholes for Taxpayers money...and this JnK which is really not a part of india and this is where we are spending lots of money fighting war...and rest states like Punjab,gujrat,Maharashtra and South indian states who are working hard and earning money for whole of so called Republic Of India...
Not sure why we are Republic...let each state have special right like JnK and make India Union like EU..

1990, Kashmiri Hindus driven out, with announcements from Mosques, Gohra train burnt, for no apparent reason, So everthing tht happenned later, is consequence not cause, so live with it,

A Nation cannot have but one flag. The Indian "Tiranga" has to be accepted unconditionally as the flag of every state and every citizen of India. To accept any other flag within the jurisdiction of the country shows weakness of a Nation. Article 360 should have been struck down years ago. Further delays would only ferment trouble in developing different parts of the country into a true unitary Nation. The resettlement of the Kashmiri Pundits back in their ancestral homes would be a step in the right direction.
God Bless India!

lets have a flag for each local government...
Here in the US, every state has its own flag...
they hoist both the flags together...
In this way each state gets its due importance and not just one state... If this is done, the symbolism with regards to the separate flag of just one state gets diluted... Problem solved!

Well, Tarun, the point you have put up is nice. I am an Indian, living in the US for quite a number of years now. Here, all the states have separate constitutions and separate flags.Besides, all states of the US have their National Guards- Army and the Air Force.Some of the US territories like Puerto Rico even have their own currencies and separate representation at the UN. Similarly, around the world, you'll find another example in China regarding the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region. It has it's own democratic constitution,it's own currency and it's elected multi-party democratic government. Ditto with Macao in China. That doesn't mean US or China doesn't have any less integrity or the people of these countries have less love for their nationhood. In US, people first think themselves as a New Yorker first and then an American.The states have more powers than the federal government.There are regions in US called reservations where normal ordinary Americans cannot buy a piece of land nor they cannot live or work. These places are managed by the Indian Reservations Police and Courts and come under the Department of Interior. But, still, US is not breaking up into pieces or there's no fissiparous tendencies within.The basic requirement to stop this regionalism in India is balanced socio-economic growth, employment and poverty elimination and elimination if not, reduction of corruption. In one word, what India requires is good governance. We Indians like to blame our frailties on the past.Firstly, we need a Presidential system of government with a tri-partite system of democracy. Secondly, each state should be allowed to have it's own constitution and it's flag and redrawing of state borders within the union should be stopped forthwith.Thirdly, India should be made a true federation and not a quasi-federal state and hence, state rights and responsibilities should be made paramount through greater devolution of powers.

The main problem is that of non avialablity leadership - at every level. Who is taking care of national interests. All the so called leaders are busy in filling his coffers. One may say so many good things about Prime Minister but he has to follow the party stand. That waw he also becomes a politician. But he is one person. Thank God none of the present leaders was in 1947 and thereafter for a decade. Were it so they have sold the country to china, pakistan etc. for some chips. In the present scenario,things are going in that direction. Leadership is happy in diverting the public attention by making the normal living to a difficult stage. Can any one quote any leader of the country,irrespective of party label who is interested in this issue of two flags. They are blind to chinese advancement which is a open fact now. Only God can save this country.

If I am correct, Karnataka (or part of it)has its flag. They do celebrate the Karnataka day similar to some states. Yes, the article 370 is certainly debatable.
My view is that there is no focus on what happens on Pakistan Occupied Kashmir at the international level.

Kashmiri Protectionism is bad; Aryan imperialism, coupled with their casteism, is worst.

Excellent article. Since the plebicite of self determination was already nullified by continued Pakistani mis-adventures to spoil any atmopshere for such a plebecite, the part remaining with India should have long become a State with the same stature as other states. Because we have successive governments by Congress Party only, and mosty (except Indira Gandhi)spineless leaders, the saga continues. People should vote for change.

Excellent article. Since the plebicite of self determination was already nullified by continued Pakistani mis-adventures to spoil any atmopshere for such a plebecite, the part remaining with India should have long become a State with the same stature as other states. Because we have successive governments by Congress Party only, and mosty (except Indira Gandhi)spineless leaders, the saga continues. People should vote for change.

The constitution and governments do not have jurisdiction to divide a country, that is bad polictics and cannot be legitimate. Thanks, Vipin

The problem isn't against Muslim or Hindu community. There is nothing to do with what Kashimiri Pundit's wanted or Muslim Mullah's were felt. If we see in a broader picture "The Nation is Dividing", which is not acceptable. If I'm a part of a family I must eat the same food which will be served on a dinner for everybody. Compromising is an art to divide a cake such a way, that everyone feels they got the biggest pieces. We the Indians are not compromising on this issue, this is our country and we are damn serious about it. We feel a major public intervention is needed on this issue. People of India (JnK includes as they are not separated from India) should raise their voice may be in a piece of paper, placard, internet, meeting, procession, party (may be political) or in whatsoever manner.

I strongly feel, people from JnK also do not want a separate flag or constitution for the sake of community. We humans love to stay in a society and JnK people no exception.

We are very busy on planning and making our lives healthy, that is necessary but at the same time we can raise our voice may be on this occasion and this manner.

JnK is not a sepaerte state from India its a part of India and the state may have special privilage but a seperate flag is not acceptable.

This is the right time for people of J & K to come out proactively against this article.No use fighting and sacrificing precious lives for so called AZADI that is nothing but joining Paki bandwagon.Kashmiris should know the fate of Pakistan.India has much to offer by way of freedom and opportunities.If People of J & K themselves ask for repelling this article, whole country will welcome them.This is the best way to put an end to so called Kashmir problem.

Unfortunate for all Indians, and it needs to be changed. But Guy do look at the larger picture. USA and China are backing Pakistan on J&K issue. With lots of Ammunitions and fighter planes being sold to Pakistan. No wonder what these weapons are used against. Be it Pakistan sponsored Terrorism in India or Border encroachment by China. The real story is US and China are cooking their Economies on the lives of People of India not only in J&K but across India.

India is a growing power, and the rate at which we are growing is vulnerable to the developed nations. Wake up guys Its not Hindus Or Muslims, Its much more than that. These Giants want us to fight and create the divide, and maintain their economy.

Unfortunate for all Indians, and it needs to be changed. But Guy do look at the larger picture. USA and China are backing Pakistan on J&K issue. With lots of Ammunitions and fighter planes being sold to Pakistan. No wonder what these weapons are used against. Be it Pakistan sponsored Terrorism in India or Border encroachment by China. The real story is US and China are cooking their Economies on the lives of People of India not only in J&K but across India.

India is a growing power, and the rate at which we are growing is vulnerable to the developed nations. Wake up guys Its not Hindus Or Muslims, Its much more than that. These Giants want us to fight and create the divide, and maintain their economy.

I would like to respectfully say to all of you posting here that instead of just posting comments on this electronic media and not doing anything about, lets make this kind of forums a media to make our collective voices heard. lets come out of our cozy homes, leaving our computer screens behind and do somethng in the real world to make the change. if its not for people like us to at least try and bring the change, the miseries will never cease. i urge any INDIAN who is reading this, whether Hindu or Muslim, Christian or Sikh, to come out give ourselves the gift of change for the better. Jai Hind.

I completely agree with Sharda Bhargavthe and Tarun.

Jammu and Kashmir has a special status.

We Love INDIA as "ONE NATION" And "NATIONAL TRI COLOR" as the emblem of Peace, revolution, sacrifice and growth.

We have paid enough for libration and defense of J&K.

Every year we lose our precious soldiers protecting Kashmir and Jammu from Pakistani terrorist.

All types of financial assistance provided to J&K needs to consider seriously.

All section of constitution that gives J&K a special status needs to be evoked.

And by the way if the people of J&K feel that they are not the integral part of India and they have their own flag above much respected THE INDIAN NATIONAL TRI COLOR.

They have their own assembly.

Then let’s fight them their own way to glory as a nation.

Why INDIA is paying the dues for so called other states the J&K.

Mr. Tarun Vijay, Good article.

We Indians are still suffering because of "Father of nation & Great PM Mr.Nehru."
I don't know why people worship Gandi and Nehru? We pepole have started forgetting the names of Leaders like Bhagat singh, Rajguru, subhash Chandra Bose and some great Muslim leaders(I too have forgotten their names). And i think Congress is responsible for this. They always talk about Gandhi and Chaha nehru.I hate both these names and alway keep hating

J&K is an Integral part of India, i really don't know wat Congress has done till now, the've been bsy in naming buildings, Halls, status, roads for them and their families, not a single statue for Late Mookherjee?? Former President APJ Abdul Kalam Saab has already ddeclared tht he dont wnt any building , university , roads , or statues in his name before and after he dies- for me he is a true Indian and a true muslim as well. They (cong.) have been into power for more than 50 yrs in India, still not able to resolve J&K issue,another flag for J&K is boiling me in anger.

I love my Tricolour, it gives me a sense of proud wen i look at it, patriotism runs high in our blood wen we look at it, waving it high as much as we can, The Govt. should realize this tht it's high time we start doing somthng about it, please dnt give an impression to the world tht we are a soft nation, we are strong and can't let go J&K at any cost at all. Else we loose J&K first then Siachin and then Arunachal and rest of the states. let's be "United States of India" and become the No.1 economy of the world.

"Jai Hind"

u r brilliant Tarunji!!

bang on.. Tarun Vijay is excellent as always..
The most important question is whos land is this. In history many battles fought for this reason & many migration takes place because of battles. Kashmir was also land of Hindus, it was transformed to land of Muslims due to Mugul invasion & again due to terrorist activities in Kasmir. So I dont know how correct it is to take poll after one majority becomes minority. We shuld try to abolish any special status to Kashmir & try to integrate it into India. We should not be worried about UN resolution as it is not an practical solution to the problem & it wont happen.
Also I dont think that now as pak is burning many Kashmiri people would like to join them.

Tarun nice article.. Good you write about it... But why did you remain quiet when on NDTV big fight Mr. Tiwari raised the issue of Jagmohan forcing KPs to leave valley.. you should have protested!

Mr Tarun, you who are a big supporter of the RSS and the BJP are least qualified to talk about the Indian flag. The RSS till some time ago did not accept the tricolour as the Indian flag and the BJP quietly continued to be wagged as its tail without a murmur. Don't people know that the RSS refused to fly the Indian tricolour atop its Nagpur headquarters? I am ashamed that it is people like you, supposedly enlightened and "patriotic", who continue to stoke the fires of hatred among Indians. Yes, this was the most appropriate time for you to raise this bogey when Kashmir is painfully limping towards normalcy. You are adept at hiding your hatred for the Muslim community in all the verbosity that you indulge in. Try for once not to reignite fires of hatred among communities and you may be counted upon as a patriotic columnist contributing to the growth and development of the country.

enough debate done on the issue. Let us decide onec for all what is in the interest of the nation. Those not feeling aligned with GOI should be dealt with breaking rule of law. For every Indian, Constitution is one. Let us resolve to follow this as rule. Friends we can progress faster than ever before if we become strict and disciplined. Democracy should not be construde as week governance.

Mr Tarun, you who are a big supporter of the RSS and the BJP are least qualified to talk about the Indian flag. The RSS till some time ago did not accept the tricolour as the Indian flag and the BJP quietly continued to be wagged as its tail without a murmur. Don't people know that the RSS refused to fly the Indian tricolour atop its Nagpur headquarters? I am ashamed that it is people like you, supposedly enlightened and "patriotic", who continue to stoke the fires of hatred among Indians. Yes, this was the most appropriate time for you to raise this bogey when Kashmir is painfully limping towards normalcy. You are adept at hiding your hatred for the Muslim community in all the verbosity that you indulge in. Try for once not to reignite fires of hatred among communities and you may be counted upon as a patriotic columnist contributing to the growth and development of the country.

Hindus are driven out forcibly from Kashmir, If any plebisite is required,first of all, rehabilitate the Hindus back to Kashmir..

Tarunji has done great service to Kashmiris by bringing out into open what the Indian establishment has been trying to sweep under the carpet for such a long time.
Thanks Tarunji for pointing out that Kashmir isn't just another state of the Union of India.
Kashmir's relationship with India is based on Art. 370. The day Art. 370 goes, the Indian Union is legally bound to say bye bye to Kashmir.

It is not the question of flags and constitution, the question is whether the people of a particular state want to be with a country or not. If yes, then, of course, there should be one flag and one constitution and if not, then is it justified to use force against them and kill them mercilessly only for the reason that they want self -determination. Have you asked this question to yourselves, why thousands of kashmiris have been killed mercilessly?

It is not the question of flags and constitution, the question is whether the people of a particular state want to be with a country or not. If yes, then, of course, there should be one flag and one constitution and if not, then is it justified to use force against them and kill them mercilessly only for the reason that they want self -determination. Have you asked this question to yourselves, why thousands of kashmiris have been killed mercilessly?

right.....The article 370 sholud be repealed and there should not be any doubt in anybody'd head that Kashmir is integral part of India...enough of this......JAI HIND

Another piece of curious information. Karanataka also has a flag of its own which is red and orange in clour

I think they call their portion independent Kashmir in Pakistan. Also, it has a different currency.

Indian government will never tell the truth about kashmir,even the america britain and UN knows the real despute but everybody is quite,every indian must know the real despute about kashmir
But after reading Mr. Tarun's article it seems that India has occupied Kashmir and People of Kashmir are right for their struggle for freedom
Same applies for Palestine too, ISRAEL occupying it and the America, britain and UN are just watching happily, shame shame shame

Indian government will never tell the truth about kashmir,even the america britain and UN knows the real despute but everybody is quite,every indian must know the real despute about kashmir
But after reading Mr. Tarun's article it seems that India has occupied Kashmir and People of Kashmir are right for their struggle for freedom
Same applies for Palestine too, ISRAEL occupying it and the America, britain and UN are just watching happily, shame shame shame

The biggest dichotomy existing today in J&K is that though they have a separate constitution, flag and penal code, yet they are defended by aggression by the Indian Army. It happened in 1948, when invaders raped Kashmiri girls by the hundreds, it happened again in 1965....yet our Kashmiri brothers refuse to embrace the Indian Flag even when they our incapable of defending their own backyard. Few days back, a civilian died in cross firing between militants and Security Forces and there was pandemonium in the Kashmiri heartland. I want to ask them, what about the countless soldiers who die everyday in the valley fighting for the safety of the Kashmiris, are they not anyone's children? Why are bandhs not called for on their demise? It is time our Government wakes up on this doublespeak on Kashmir.

Guys! I think the best solution shall be to grant full autonomy to Kashmir. It will not be good for Kashmiris (hindu or muslim) to live directly or indirectly under the influence of Pakistan, as Pak is itself a very unstable state. We all are just arguing over constitution, rights, law and what not, but Kashmiris are sufferring the real trauma. We should gift them autonomy & development & right to live in peace by removing our troops and accepting status quo.

In US all states have their own flags. It's no big deal. Tarun Vijay is just trying to portray muslims in bad light. People should reject communal hate mongers like Tarun Vijay.

Simple because Kashmir was never part of India and never can be.

I think you need to look southward, Karnataka has a flag.
Also, look outside, Quebec in Canada has its own flag. it flies alongside the maple leaf Canadian flag. That doesnt mean quebec is not a part of Canada.
So, heavens dont fall, if you have a state flag. Yes, ideally, we would all like to have a single flag, single language, single everything, basically being so homogenious, that we dont have a difference. But, thats not the ground reality. A country where language changes every few 100km, religion changes, what else do you expect? India is a union of states. Not a single, homogenous block of land.
So, lets accept this.

Tarun Vijay has highlighted a good thing by two flags and the excerpts from the article 370 of Indian constitution as well as from the so called constitution of J & K. Two flags in the same country is not only shame for the sovereignty of country but also raises the question of faithfulness and patriotism of J&K people. No doubt they are having too many problems but they themselves are responsible for that. They even don't consider to accommodate the Hindus and Sikhs who were forced to migrate from the hilly areas but are always in front to claim the financial benefits from the Union of India. The expenditure laid down by Govt of India in J&K is not only high in comparison to other states but also the number of soldiers died for the sake of J&K is maximum. We the Indian people always feel J&K as the head of Indian Geographical Map but also the children in schools remember the states by J&K as the first state from the north. It is the incapability of the Union Government who gives the full rights to the people of J&K to serve,study,live,visit and property of rights in whole country but not able to implement the same for the rest of country people in J&K. God knows what were in the mind of our constitution builder when they formed article 370 but also they have given the right of amendment in the constitution for the facts and the requirement of time. The Union Government is chosen by whole citizen of India and therefore it should be responsible for them and it should be answerable for the expenditure made by the govt from the fund which is being raised by the hard earning and tax paying citizens. And that too the money is expended in the benefits and upliftment of the people in J&K and they themselves are maintaining the status of a separate state by having a different constitution and a different flag. In these context government should think and apply the motto of republic of India of one nation, one people and one union. Jai Hind.

Sir,
PAK was created as the muslim wanted a separate state. So why we spending money for kashmir . Ask all the rest of Muslims to go to kashmir and divided again . So that we can at least live in peace and thus not having the headache of kash & Musl.`

Even if the indian leaders made mistakes due to self centered shortsightedness where is the brain of these Kashmiris and the indian populace as a whole. First of all they became muslims because their ancestors were massacered by barbarian muslim invaders and converted them (to create a feudal system of governance). Now for the same religion (which they follow in the opposite of what the Koran says) they want to continue killing.
There are no men left in india as far as i can see since they have forgotten what it is to be a "man". A "man" is one who stands by what they commit to whether it is family, work or relationships all of which are longer practised by the current generation of indians.
People should first focus on improving the quality of their lives and of their brethren instead of fighting amongst each other and waiting for the faceless "Government" (which any way is corrupt with criminals) to come and resolve their issues. If this much can be achieved at a macroeconomic level they there will be no need for governance.
So far our muslim brethren in Kashmir have been having a gala time at the cost of indian tax payers money (money for nothing chicks for free-"gun in hand makes the man").If they want to go back to the barbarians like Taliban and Al-Qiaida they should be given the choice to see their woman and children being raped and youth being massacred like the 15th century. If this is their desitny so be it.
Hope some Kashmiri reads this and puts some sense into his brethren.

greed.... there is similarity btwn british and india, bristishers came to india for trading but eventually became the owners likewise Indins came to kahmir to save them form tribels but finally setteled there.. example if my neighbors house is on fire and then i go and help them dosnt mean aftr damage control i will ask them for a stake in there property.....

so btr gets the facts right and high time tht both INDIA AND PAKISTAN should resolve kashmir according to the aspirations of the people of jammu and kashmir on the both sides and as per the UN resolution

Over three decades ago, there was a question in one of the magazines " What are the qualities of a good leader?" and the answer was " Gift of the gab and a thick skin". Although your blogs will surely make anyone your fan but the government. I am surprised how some of your blogs which call a spade a spade find place in Times of India. Commenting on one of your blog where I depicted the true picture in my own simple words, it was not accepted by the paper as they found it "abusive". Please keep it up. God bless you.

The author missed to mention the UN recognition of Jammu and Kashmir as a Disputed territory which was also agreed upon by India in 1948. Besides J&K can never have a same flag or constitution as India because we are a separate entity living under the occupation of Indian forces.
Autonomy??? we don't enjoy even a minute level of it. Our puppet government cannot make even make small decisions without the consent on Indian central government...... This is not called autonomy.

I never even knew about the second flag and all this BS.... Thats funny. I think that our Indian politicians have made a plan to shamelessly give away the Land of Kashmir to the Pakistanis. And our people are impotent to even get it changed just to appease the minority in our country. WTF ??????

Our Muslim friends must realize one fact; Congress has done no welfare to their community. All they have done since independence is appeasement for the votes. Kick Congress out as they continue to divide the nation.

Kashmir is not an integral part of India. But we should have total control over it because it is of strategic importance to India and acts as a natural barrier between India & (Pak or China). It is like Hong Kong is to China a special admin region. Why is it so hard to swallow?

Nehru-Gandhi brand created the problem but it is not easy to take away any privilege once given!

Let's stick to status quo till we completely develop the Indian character and mindset. India as it is has enough problems to deal with. Muscums in rest of India are as bad as anywhere in the world. It takes one guy to create a religion and entire generations of billions of humans to suffer.

It pains to see that there is seperate Flag for Kashmir, along with that of our Indian National Flag. I share the agony of Vijay...Krish

Beautiful explanation, wonderful arguments and tearful pain. The government should do something for the most beautiful state of INDIA(arguably)and the most important reason for terrorism in INDIA.

You may call me cynical, but the worst leaders of India have been Mr. M.K.Gandhi and Mr. Nehru. Mr Gandhi united everybody and propounded his mediocre and myopic views. Mr Nehru was smart enough to understand whom should he cling to; to get approval of masses... he did exactly that and became first prime minister. If you look at the history as a neutral person without the programming of our history books, you will realise that more able persons like Mr Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose and Mr Vallabh bhai Patel should have become prime ministers. The gifts given by Mr Nehru to our republic are still haunting us after 60 years - namely Autonomus and special status to J&K. Why are all Indians paying taxes for the mistakes committed by Mr Nehru ?

Beautiful explanation, wonderful arguments and tearful pain. The government should do something for the most beautiful state of INDIA(arguably)and the most important reason for terrorism in INDIA.

revealing

This article is an eye opener for me. I was under the impression that the situation is improving. But from the article its clear that successive governments have complicated the situation. This article covers insight of the constitution of J&K.
Beautiful article.

Dear Mr.Tarun, Its very dept story which is required to be revealed to most of the Indian. As a citizen every one has equal rights in republic country if not then there should be differentiation in the tax and status to each state based on its contribution towards nation building. Its very surprising that congress being in rule for several years could not solve this merciful issue which causes every day many lives of rest of other Indian.If this state is not ours why are our innocent shoulders are dying day by day to protect this.Its time to rise to occasion to teach to their selfish politician so that there can be permanent solution rather same cry and fry every time.Lets hope incumbent government of India under leadership of Mr.Singh will deliver some extend better solution for this long wound which has become gangrene now.

Article 370 was necessary evil to manage annexation under mounting dissent within (Hari Singh and Hindus/Muslims of Kashmir except National Conference) and Pakistan onslaught. Terming that it is a 'problem caused by Nehru' is ignorant and ungrateful. Article 370 needs to modified to ensure equal access to all Indians. Indians should be working on that rather than smearing Nehru and claiming helpless!

Mr. Tarun Vijay have you gone through the "PREAMBLE OF THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA" which says that "India which shall be called as Bharat shall not include the territory of Kashmir". Do you know its meaning or just you close your eyes that you don't want to see this portion of Constitution of India. Then comes the provision of Article 370 of India which gives Kashmir a special Status, so it can not be compared with other States of India because no other States in India has got such a special status in the Constitution, and there was a treaty with the Indian Government and Kashmir Head of the States Sheikh Abdullah. We remember before the Kashmiri head of the State was called the Prime Minister not the Chief Minister. So please go through the facts, read the constitution and then go to a conclusion and blame the Constitution makers.

Mr. Tarun Vijay either you are missing one link or you deliberately overlook it to misguide people.The Preamble of Constitution of India says "INDIAN THAT IS CALLED BHARAT SHALL NOT INCLUDE THE TERRITORY OF KASHMIR". If Kashmir is an intigeral part of India why this sentence is included in the Preamble of the Indian Constitution. Then comes the Article 370 of the constitution of India which gives special status to Kashmir, who is going to be blamed for this the makers of the Indian constitution or Kashmiri People. The narrow mindedness and prejudices do not allow people to think in a fair manner. Just few years back the Head of the State of Kashmir was called the Prime Minister not the Chief Minister. The injustices and the cruelty that Kashmiri people are suffering from the hands of Indian Army is not secret to anybody. According to Amnesty International Report that is also few years back 80,000 young Kashmiri have been killed and several hundreds of women have been raped by the Indian Army in Kashmir and you are talking about integral part and one flag, think fairly and take out the glasses of prejudices from your eyes that you are wearing, the hate feeling for one another is not going to take you no where. You guys are talking about "Aman Ki Asha" when the Kashmir is burning and India is engulfed in Hindu-Muslim riots every where in every States U.P., Bihar, Gujrat, Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh, Andhra Pradesh and the Muslim Minority is being discriminated every where, their lives and property is burned like 2000 Muslims were burnt alive in Gujrat by Narendra Modi why your pen is silent on this issue you are a journalist you should be fair and just, you should write about injustices in the society and should expose whatever wrong is being done and support the victims of injustice. The Muslims are the biggest Minority in the country do you think that if such a great number of people are the victims of injustice and discriminatory treatment the country can prosper.

Nice story you got here. I'd like to read a bit more about this theme. Thank you for giving this information.

In the United States, there are 50 state flags and 50 state constitutions (one for each state). At the end of the day, it will be shared values that will keep a society together and not necessarily one flag or constitution. (The American Civil War was indeed about differences in values.)

Regarding Art. 370, it can not be amended or abrogated unilaterally by Parliament. As
per the Indian Constitution, it requires the concurrence of the Jammu and Kashmir State Assembly. There is no likelihood that the J&K Assembly will agree to this.

Art. 370 does not mention that non-J&K residents can not buy property in J&K. The law prohibiting non-State subjects from owning property in J&K stems from a pre-Independence 1927 law passed by Maharaja Hari Singh (the last ruler) to prevent Punjabis and people from other states from taking over jobs from Dogras and Kashmiri Pandits, which had happened when the British briefly sidelined Maharaja Pratap Singh (predecessor and uncle of Maharaja Hari Singh).