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Rajesh Kalra,  21 January 2010, 02:03 PM IST

The media has been relentless in panning the IPL franchisees for ignoring Pakistan players for the third instalment of Indian Premier League. Commentators and intellectual columnists have uniformly cried foul over this shameful omission.
 
My take on this, however, is different. Whether there was an understanding between the franchisees before the bid began, or the government nudged the franchisees to ignore Pak players is irrelevant, really. Given the mood in the nation, I think having players from across the border makes little sense, at least not for the franchisees.
 
I am not for a moment saying the Pakistani players are bad or do not have a fan following here. On the contrary, they regularly produce some of the most talented, and watchable, players in the world, so what if they play irresponsibly at times, and then surprise everyone with sterling performances that border genius. But the ground reality is different.
 
We all know the fan following in the current scenario is fickle. Fans may adore someone, but one brutal attack in Kashmir or elsewhere will change the situation diametrically in a jiffy. Now, if I am a franchisee who has invested in a Pakistani player, why would I risk it? And it is not just risking the franchisee’s reputation, it is even risking the safety of players from all over the world, on the ground, in the hotel where they stay and while they travel. Why would a franchisee invest heavily in a great player if the wrongdoings by his country somewhere works against his interest? The franchisee, after all is investing in these teams for brand building, not negative publicity.
 
Even from the organisers and government’s point of view, not having players from Pakistan helps. Sporting events are organised so that there is great competition and everyone enjoys a good contest. But if that contest has even a small chance of endangering spectators and players safety, it is not a risk worth taking.
 
Now back to Pakistani players, I once again reiterate that they are among the best in the game, and to be fair to them, the way the auctions were held was unsavoury. Here, assuming that the IPL or the government was instrumental in nudging franchisees not to bid for Shahid Afridi and others, as a respect to the sportspersons at least, it should have been handled differently. Instead of including them among the players available and then ‘humiliating’ them, they should have simply said, sorry, given the current scenario, we are unable to welcome you for the IPL. It would have hurt too, but less.
 
Ultimately, as I said, it is the franchisee that is spending and if he feels it does not help his brand, he would not. In that context therefore, it would help if Pakistani politicians stop the rhetoric that says this is India’s attempt to derail the peace process.

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abhay says:

January 21,2010 at 02:25 PM IST

Why the hell are you even apologetic?. Looks like these intellectuals in media are beyond redemption. They don't even seem to know the pulse of the nation. After through bashing from the people in previous article in the blog they are trying to do a cover up.

(Reply to abhay)- HARDLINER says:

January 22,2010 at 12:16 PM IST

@ abhay: You and many others haven't understood the blogger's point of view who has sided with IPL's decision to exercise itself as an independent body where its franchisee's may or may not choose a player. Angry Pakistani politicans came on news channels condemning IPL and threatening boycotts not just in the world of sports but also the peace talks! I can't remember seeing any one of them condemning the terrorist attacks in India or at home! Seems like Paki politicians spend more time watching cricket than running the country OR perhaps they are crying because they may have lost their own stake or cut in the deal!! If Pakistan is being run by a bunch of spoilt kids who haven't learnt to take NO for a answer, its present state comes as no surprise!

(Reply to HARDLINER)- Imran says:

January 22,2010 at 02:56 PM IST

Why should they waste time condemning something they were not a part of. I do not ever see India apologizing for breaking up Pakistan in 1971. I don't see them apologizing for the bombings that happen in Pakistan by RAW. The issue is why snub them after inviting them over. Grow some balls and be candid about it. Don't make excuses. How would you feel if you are specially invited and your government went through all the hurdles to make sure you can go and play and then have the door shut on your face.

(Reply to Imran)- Aslam says:

January 22,2010 at 03:30 PM IST

India need not apologize to Pakistan for 1971. It was not India who broke Pakistan. It was Pakistan's own generals and military officials responsible for it. The attorcities that these guys carried out in East Pakistan were beyond imagination....with regular genocides and rapes.....India had to intervene to save itself from the deluge of refugees coming into its territory from the so called territory of pakistan which it failed to support. Go to History other than the holy kuran and you will know the truth of present day. It is Pakistan and its policies of nurturing fanatical sentiments through ungoverned Madarasas which has resulted into the reputation that it carries today. Let its politicians have a sense of responsibility over their selfis motives and hopefully We too would be able to look into the eyes of this world. Hope you have got the point....

(Reply to Imran)- AK SINGH says:

January 22,2010 at 03:51 PM IST

Paki Cricketers were not specially invited- they were not GUEST- they were commodities on sale. No IPL team wanted to purchase them, there ends the story. Can anyone question a shopper for NOT buying a particular brand of cloth??? Similarly the IPL teams did NOT want to buy the Paki Cricketers.

(Reply to Imran)- Joe says:

January 22,2010 at 03:56 PM IST

thats your bloody SINS , you are suffering , if u are in indias leave india immediately bcz if your comments read by RAW you will go to the Heaven , i mean to say the hell for you .

(Reply to Imran)- Jehangir Modi says:

January 22,2010 at 04:48 PM IST

Listen, Imran, when you say RAW is causing the bombings in Pakistan, you are giving them credit which they don't really deserve.We in India have very serious doubts about RAW doing anything successfully, so please do not embarrass us.Looks like some deserve fame, some earn fame, but RAW has been having fame thrust upon it, by people like you.

(Reply to Imran)- Santunu says:

January 22,2010 at 06:37 PM IST

@Imran. It is our matter and you have no right to say in this. Why do you people keep begging all the time. Why cannot your country start its own IPL (if it can). We don't want you. Your player wanted easy money we will not give them thats simple. I mean there was no undertaking that the Pakis have to be taken if you don't want. So it was that way that no body liked your players and so nobody took them. Dont cry and start a PPL in your country. Infact the Taliban, The Let and groups will own one, each of them. The cheer leaders will carry some weapon. It will be nice. You must advice your people to start a PPL. Since nobody else is going to come there your players can be taken, retaken and re-re taken. So there will be no problem. Cheers!!!

(Reply to Imran)- MANEESH JAIN says:

January 22,2010 at 11:32 PM IST

imran you are wrong and your information is insufficient.you should apologize. i know you people always condemn indians,india's policies.first you should make improvement yourself then start to saying that nonsense.

(Reply to Imran)- jan says:

January 23,2010 at 06:31 AM IST

Mr Imran just think can i make u buy something that is useless and good for nothing to u...as simple as that...we had to announce that those useless bunch of pakistani players were included in the auction list because they were crying about their availability for the IPL even before we bothered to ask u pakistanis.....who r u to tell us buy something with my money...its none of your business....there is no sense at all 4 this discussion....got it?

(Reply to Imran)- AK SINGH says:

January 23,2010 at 07:14 AM IST

IMRAN, the problem of Pakistan for quite long time is the PAKI ARMY. The Paki General, Sahabsyada YAKUB KHAN, who was the ARMY COMMANDER of EAST PAKISTAN in 1971 resigned protesting against the atrocities being inflicted on the BENGALI MUSLIMS. But PAKI ARMY did not relent and General TIKKA KHAN popularly known as the BUTCHER of Bangladesh was appointed ARMY COMMADER. So it was PAKI ARMY which broke up Pakistan in 1971.
Most educated BLOGGING Indians do not want Pak Cricketers in India as long as Pak Jehadis are being pushed in by PAKI ARMY. No amount of chest beating would change it- it would be better if Pak citizens tell their elected GOVT to control the PAKI ARMY and stop sponsoring killings in India.

(Reply to Imran)- George Rego says:

January 23,2010 at 09:54 PM IST

Hardliner. I've never heard such sh1t before. They were invieted yes. But it was up to the buyer to buy the product or not. It's the same as yu'd go to the supermarket. The wares are on display you buy what yu think is what you need.

As far as teh bombins happening in pakistan its pakistani's bombing pakistani's. You live by the sword so u die by the sowrd. Give up terrorism and terrorism will stop. So don't blame wht's happening in pakistan on others. Fist accept that Pakistan is almost a failed state. A state that set up and trained terrorists who are now teachien the teachers a lesson.

First set your house in order before telling others how to run their house.

Good luck hardline. Please be worried if there will be a Pakistan 10 years from now and don't worry about the IPL. Please start your won and DO NOT invite any indian to play.

(Reply to Imran)- TRUEINDIAN says:

January 25,2010 at 08:38 PM IST

OK It is done what you want ... why begging for this.. Respect is commanded not demanded. What is the guarantee that the money earned will not be used for helping Madarsas ...
One suggestion please put your request to Sonia and Chidambaram ...your request will be granted. Get lost , after all this terrorist activities, we do not want to listen to you even if it realistic.

(Reply to Imran)- Zeba Deshpande says:

January 25,2010 at 08:37 PM IST

You know IPL is a commercial event, unlike Pakistani people, Indians are born and brought up in democratic environment. The way we respect Pakistani players to stand for bid (even after 29/11) we also respect IPLs right to ignore them.
Learn to be a sport. We invited many players and many of them got rejected. It is Not your right to get selected if you are invited.

(Reply to Imran)- sameer says:

January 25,2010 at 09:56 PM IST

times of india, you have to stop ISI infiltrators like this m...... f.......er

(Reply to Imran)- Yogi says:

January 26,2010 at 12:52 AM IST

Imran - in case you have forgotten, it was YOUR own General Musharraf who apologized to Bangladesh a few years ago for the atrocities committed by your generals in the past. India has nothing to apologize for - it was a clear failure of Pakistan to manage East Pakistan properly - over 3 million refugees from East Pakistan that came inside India from there created an untenable situation in terms of security threats and living conditions in India...why should India be obliged to take care of Pakistani refugees? If India has anything to be apologetic for then it it this - the Indian government should apologize to it's own citizens for not having taken Pakistan lock stock and barrel in 1965 itself, leave aside 1971! Next time there is an war, the Indian politicians should have balls to get an IoP apart from getting back the PoK.

The problem is simple - Pakistan does not have any reason for existence. It is a country built only on negative emotions - hatred of India. It has absolutely nothing positive to show for itself except a few arm chair poets...from society, religious animosities to political structure, it has absolutely nothing to be proud of itself. So it simply tries to survive with India bashing but unfortunately, that does not give it any legitimacy. Everything in today's world must have a reason for it's existence - Pakistan doesn't have any.

(Reply to Imran)- Vikram says:

January 26,2010 at 06:44 AM IST

see the map where India,Pakistan and Bangladesh is.Morever read history and write the comments on blog.

(Reply to Imran)- rajiv says:

January 26,2010 at 07:45 AM IST

MR. IMRAN wenever invited your holpless cricketrs..it was tem who were crying to be bought...it is our wish...just don't think of even entrind INIIA..forget abt playind in INIDA if you fools have some self respect...

(Reply to Imran)- john says:

January 27,2010 at 05:16 PM IST

Imran, it is ur desperation showing to make money. if u don't like us no one wants u here. stop acting like a special gift to the world. decisions taken into our domestic games is not your bloody business!

(Reply to Imran)- Leo John says:

January 27,2010 at 05:45 PM IST

Imran Take a bowl and beg for money for your Paki friends.Write 1971 on it! We have big enough balls to snub you publically.

(Reply to Imran)- Samir says:

January 27,2010 at 06:50 PM IST

what on earth are you getting 1971 into this ? what need has India to apologise for it ? its the bangladesh govt which is still asking the pakistanis for an apology for the genocide and rape of 1 million bangladeshi women , Indoa saved bangladesh from annihilation by pakistans hands. And what RAW bombers in pakistan ? we have arrested and produced hundreds of pak terrorists on TV with proof, has pakistan produced a single Indian ? Its thinking like yours which has created hatered across borders. the facts are that till you reign in your jihadi elements and bring to trial the people who are responsible for mumbai attacks there can be no normalty between india and pakistan, pakistanis are not welcome here , and to fool ourselves by thinking a couple of cricketers playing in the IPL is going to suddenly create an atmosphere of love is stupidity . you can expect to send your cricketers on a valid visa and your terrorists without a visa and expect normal relations

(Reply to Imran)- Prab says:

January 28,2010 at 05:13 AM IST

instead of shedding tears in indian blogs, go call srk, gill, chidambram

(Reply to Imran)- Melwi says:

January 28,2010 at 11:23 AM IST

Who is the **** want this terrorist player's?? we indian's dont want to play with terrorist's. indian govt should not enter in IPL internal issue,

(Reply to HARDLINER)- Vinod says:

January 23,2010 at 01:33 AM IST

India or IPL needs no apology to Pakistan or its cricket team. Muslims wanted to live away from the Hindus -- they got their Pakistan. I wish them well there. Let them live in peace. To start sports or cultural exchange was a wrong decision. 26/11 is the latest example. Let them start their own league and bar Indian players from as they have officially banned Indian films in Pakistan. Pakistan is the last country that shyould be talking about peace.

IPL and its franchisees should be lauded for a taking a stand finally. Enough is enough. Gald to see Indians finally standing up to bully Pakistan.

(Reply to Vinod)- Ali Basra says:

January 23,2010 at 03:18 PM IST

Haha, i am enjoying the way Indians are commenting, Indians are having problems not only with Pak but with Australia,Srilanka,Bangladesh,China,Nepal

(Reply to Vinod)- Madhusudan Banerjee says:

January 24,2010 at 07:08 PM IST

Fantastic! please keep it up and forward your comments to all Indians. I appreciate your prompt action regarding involvement of Pakistani players in 4th IPL. What action Pakistan has taken when their people attacked Sri Lankan players (whom world knows the best cool nature players). Moreover, we don't see any such talented players vis-a-vis others which involves havoc money.

(Reply to Vinod)- Pankaj says:

January 25,2010 at 08:24 PM IST

Hey Imran
Please don't be over react and try to understand the things. why are you bringing other issues in cricket., we are discussing about the IPL Cricket not about RAW or ISI etc..All world knows well who did what and who is still doing, so you no need to explanation on it. and 2nd thing we are INDIAN and Proud to be a India. we don't want to listen any of your bull shit here. what RAW did/doing etc.. its our agency and it doing all that beneficial for all not like ISI who support some wrong people to create problems in neighbor countries. If u really feel sham about your PAK players not bought by any of agency then we can just say sorry and thanks to your player to come india and attend audition . we all are with our agencies and History of IPL says . none of PAK player performed well. In 1st IPL KKR team had 7 PAK player and that team was least team in IPL. and 2nd thing we just chosen the best cream player like we took your akram ( PAK blower as a coach for KKR team).. so please clam down and enjoy cricket . and do let all bullshit in cricket ..

(Reply to Vinod)- sbanta says:

January 25,2010 at 10:01 PM IST

I salute IPL franchise owners for showing the place of paki players. No paki player condemnned any terrorist acts. Our politician are spineless, none of them supported IPL stand. Look at SRK now hee wants to respect paki people and players. SRK should be thrown out of india and deported to pakistan where he can live happily. SRK eats Indain bread and now he is advocating paki players and balming IPL. SRK did not even condemn terrorst attacks, I think he shoul just focus on making good films and money and entartain people, after all he is just an entertainer not any big respectable personality. Shame on hime for supporting the paki palyers..
IPL and its franchisees should be lauded for a taking a stand finally. Enough is enough. Gald to see Indians finally standing up to bully Pakistan

(Reply to HARDLINER)- Zahid says:

January 23,2010 at 04:56 AM IST

India is the one who has halted the talks. there are no talks going on between India and Pakistan.

If someone says that it was not in the knowledge of anyone then he/she is insane....Anyway we do not expect good from Indians anyway...Its better than our heroes are not there.....

(Reply to Zahid)- Ruchir says:

January 23,2010 at 12:06 PM IST

@ Zahid:- Ofcourse we halted the talks... coz indians and india has always been at the receving end... and we are resilient does not mean we don't have the capabilities of bringing down the much sponsored terrorosm from your end... whenevr we've tried to start a peace dialogue we've always been thanked by attacked.. May it be kargil after the agra summit or any other...

and as for you saying your heroes are better off in pakistan rather than participating in IPL3.... ask your players... they are so very pissed of the fact that they'll not be earning millions thru IPL like other international players.... It is for this reason that ur players

(Reply to Zahid)- Jani says:

January 23,2010 at 05:35 PM IST

Pakistani crickters heroes?? Whow are you kidding, did you forget ball temering Afridi messing up the pitch against England few years ago? CHEATS more like it.

(Reply to Zahid)- tarun says:

January 23,2010 at 08:24 PM IST

Most matches of IPL are happening in Mumbai where 26/11 happened sometime back. Pak has admitted publicly that they did 26/11 but culprits are roaming free in Pak. Who will provide security to Paki players in Mumbai to play for IPL ?

(Reply to Zahid)- tarun says:

January 23,2010 at 08:24 PM IST

Most matches of IPL are happening in Mumbai where 26/11 happened sometime back. Pak has admitted publicly that they did 26/11 but culprits are roaming free in Pak. Who will provide security to Paki players in Mumbai to play for IPL ?

(Reply to Zahid)- Anjan says:

January 26,2010 at 01:45 AM IST

Oh Yeah! We've all read similar stories before. They all end like this: The grapefruit is sour!

(Reply to Zahid)- Leo John says:

January 27,2010 at 05:49 PM IST

India needn't talk to a failed state! Why dont you beggars leave Indians alone?
We are a minority here but we are happier than the majority here!!! Your brothers here are a menace too, including that clown Shahrukh Khan who has shown his true colours after 20 years in the industry!

(Reply to Zahid)- rahul says:

January 28,2010 at 10:55 AM IST

Zahir, do you think that pak really want to talk to INDIA? i think you dont even know about your own politicians. INDIA always tries to keep peace with neighbours but pak is like the pond of shit.Always stabbed back to INDIA whenever we try to resolve the issues by dailogues. You can take example of kargil war.

(Reply to Zahid)- Indian Aussie says:

March 20,2010 at 02:59 PM IST

Please keep your heroes home. Afridi is now a house hold name in OZ after everyone saw him trying to eat the cricket ball. PCB and Pakistanis should first start learning to respect their own cricketers before talking about IPL or others snubbing them. Look at the aftermath after Australia series. If you cannot respect your own cricketers forget about others doing the same.

(Reply to HARDLINER)- Ahmed says:

January 25,2010 at 09:10 PM IST

I don't understand why Pakistanis are even concerned about IPL and the after-math. If they were not picked up by the franchisees then they can react by winning against Indians on ground. one good example was slapping the under 19 Indian team in the quarter finals and kicking them out of the world cup. They should now focus on the T20 world cup that is very near. I remember they didn't take part in IPL doosra and won the T20 world cup. Now same has happened with IPL 3 and they will again win the cup. Indians are still denying that RAW plays an important role in all bombings in Pakistan and sending terrorisms from Afghanistan and when some Indians come across any such allegations, they actually rejoice about it. what a shameless nation Indians are. Truly shameless. There were more than 500 bombings in Pakistan in 2009 and still no shame for RAW ? even 26/11 is doubtful which could have been pranked by Indian forces to wash the spots on its face in the name of Colonal prohit and the company. First of all ban shiv sena, bomb their head quarter then talk about peace with any other country.

(Reply to Ahmed)- Murli Mohan Rao says:

January 25,2010 at 09:53 PM IST

Dear Ahmed, Indians have always grown up adoring Non Violence since the days of Gandhi. However, the same cannot be said of Pakistan wherein every dispute is settled by the gun or bombing. Look at your own statement ... bomb shiv sena. This shows that Pakistan lives by the gun ... so, whats happening to you is a result of your own misdeeds. Why blame us for this. We have our own set of problems and we do not have any interest in Pakistan ... let me ask you ... what does Pakistan have that we do not have ... bombs, terrorists, illerate people, archaic laws, zero business. We are definitely not interested in a country like this ...

(Reply to Ahmed)- Sucheta says:

January 26,2010 at 12:52 AM IST

To Ahmed@ pls get your facts correct, its known in the entire world that pakistan is the epicentre of terror and not India and your partners in so called war on terror the US has also understood your military's double game, all you people can survive in this world is only by begging that you will help in elimanating terroist organistaion but will have habour to keep them alive so can cliam some Aid from US and western countries, so AHMED beggers can't be choosers, pls keep in mind. POOR POLLUTED CORRUPT PEOPLE.

(Reply to Ahmed)- Aamir says:

January 26,2010 at 04:03 AM IST

That's surprising...your entire country is threatened by Shiv Sena. If you are so threatened by one small party in India then what will happen if decide to wipe out pak.

(Reply to Ahmed)- Prab says:

January 28,2010 at 05:30 AM IST

Our guest italian princess and her cook(MMS) are busy planning for next 5 years so they can get votes from pseudos and elites and minorities and rule and fool all of us. You are lucky to be still barking after 26/11 and the timing was good too when congress was ruling in india and in maharastra. I bet even after you terrorists make each day of the year a 26/11 we will still want to talk to you. kudos to sonia and her ball-less cook.

(Reply to Ahmed)- rahul says:

January 28,2010 at 11:01 AM IST

Dear Ahmed, Please correct you statment chekc the fact and thn come here to discuss any thing. your politician have said publicly that Pakistan is under threat from there own supported terrorist. but the things are in alst 60 years INDIA has grown up and now one of the the super ppower of the world whereas wht is the value of pakistan. nothing some handsfull politicians begging for money from US and asking support from china???? you mango people of pakistna will never come to know wht happens in your own country.dont comment on INDIA.

(Reply to Ahmed)- sumant says:

March 06,2010 at 04:10 PM IST

Dear Ahmed,
You say that RAW is responsible for bombing in pakistan.Though I do not belive in it but if we take your statement as true RAW has done exactly same what ISI has been doing . now u know that bombing can happen anywhere if sponsored. if RAW has done it why shame on us , shame on your security forces who have not been able to stop the 500 bombings .

(Reply to HARDLINER)- samurai says:

January 25,2010 at 11:17 PM IST

cant agree with u more. when was the (first)

(Reply to abhay)- SANJEEV DAS says:

January 21,2010 at 02:59 PM IST

abhay, you are dead on mate, dont know why everyone is getting apoplectic about the matter, let the owners or their chosen maanagers/selectors decide what is best for them, the IPL is and was a Laisseez faire systemparty as everyone including the players knew, so tough luck if the pakistani players didnt get to be called, the ones who pay for it have all the right to invite whoever they want anrd feed them whatver they chose, not the guests, nor neighbours or any outsiders. Its the wallet of the IPL which spke and the wallet of the Pakistani players which cries, I dont see why everyone is getting into this self flagellation unless having sadomasochistic tendencies or under the mistaken sense of being part of muharram or whatever rituals that celebrate such self flogging, I would say let us be in peace as long as we have our daily rojiroti and it is not dependant on those IPL owners

(Reply to SANJEEV DAS)- Tajan says:

January 21,2010 at 05:41 PM IST

heh heh. i second u guys. If i spend money, i would select ppl i like and wud not care for these intellectuals telling me whr to put my money. And the business men investing in IPL have huge Indian fans following them. I believe they will gather support from the masses in India for their decision in IPL3. Media, as stated earlier, is intellectually blindfolded to understand the pulse of the nation.

(Reply to abhay)- Chandramouli says:

January 21,2010 at 06:23 PM IST

It is stupid to say that the Pakistan players have been shunned or insulted. We may have to ask the Pakistani teams or owners if they run the teams will they invest on any player who is not adding value to their brand cause.

It is pure commerce and entertainment and nothing else which matters in T20 whether you are a pakistani or an Indian or from any other nation.

Also by the same token Pakistan should now realise unless they are integrated with the rest of the world on equal terms through common idealogies and other interests they are going to be sidelined. This is not another Jihad that is going on it is sheer value creation.

(Reply to Chandramouli)- Sharda Bhargav - The Confiscated Soul says:

January 21,2010 at 09:58 PM IST

If Pakistan was so much concerned, it could build a franchisee to participate in auction and field a team in IPL

(Reply to Sharda Bhargav - The Confiscated Soul)- mgaksa says:

January 22,2010 at 07:41 AM IST

Yes Mate, Pakistan should start the proceeding for stopping the world cup to be held in India first.

(Reply to Sharda Bhargav - The Confiscated Soul)- mohit says:

January 25,2010 at 12:28 AM IST

haha tats a big joke,it doesnt take 20 or 30 rupees to buy a team.they dont have so much money....poor bloody pakis.

(Reply to Chandramouli)- Gautam says:

January 22,2010 at 05:36 PM IST

You are talkong about entertainment and commerce how ll they understand. They know only guns, bomba and conspiracy...

(Reply to Chandramouli)- HEMANT says:

January 25,2010 at 11:27 PM IST

yes...stay away by all means from pakistan.close borders ,stop bus,trains croosing borders.keep our defence strong on those borders.why to creat more problems which we do not know how to solve.after each messup problems media and politician open their wise dirty mouth.whiele common man dies and suffers.enjoy cricket with rest of civilized world.pakistan as country is not part of modern civilized socity.

(Reply to abhay)- Kiran says:

January 22,2010 at 11:34 AM IST

I agree with what Abhay says.Do not be apologetic.If Pakistan realises they are harming their players' interests they should refrain from creating adverse situations with India.The Indian govt has, for a change, come up and rebutted them properly.Does the author really think if the pak players are barred from IPL, it would be less of a diplomatic farce?That would be worse coz that would be upon instruction from a particular body.The paks have instigated "proxy" war for years now.have any of their media come up against them?this is a problem of too much democracy for media in India.Please understand media guys, that bashing your country is not statesmanship.What the IPL guys have done is completely their prerogative and should be.If they are controlled, business will cease to exist and IPL will be a PSU.
Cheers
Kiran

(Reply to abhay)- ArunS says:

January 22,2010 at 11:12 AM IST

Perfect Abhay. To all the ones who're talking about not mixing sports and politics I have two things to say:
a. Shunning South Africa during the apartheid years did contribute in some measure in ushering change.
b. While this is not an identical situation, when India has been attacked by people originating from Pakistan and all we get in answer from the Pak govt and its media and people is either denial or indifference then this is your just come-uppance regardless of it was for business reasons or orchestrated.
If you guys can get insulted for such a triviality (in comparison) then imagine how we as Indians must have felt with your reactions after 26/11. Clean your backyard and stop throwing that filth around at your neighbors, if you want true friendship. Its a two-way street folks. This time the onus in on you. Indian media - don't feel embarassed; if you can't participate in this process then don't interfere either.

(Reply to abhay)- AL says:

January 21,2010 at 08:32 PM IST

Are you guys listening to your self! Indians are becoming like Nazis. Someone wrote "No Pakis allowed" you guys forgetting British Raj.

(Reply to AL)- Vijay says:

January 22,2010 at 04:30 AM IST

Sorry boss. We dont want a team to come and shoot us and the other to play cricket us. You may call this Nazism if you like.

(Reply to abhay)- raghu says:

January 22,2010 at 11:11 AM IST

they bomb us, they kill us, they attack our temples and mosques, they kargil us, they war with us, and just because some idiots did not get selected, such hue and cry from porkistan. our media idiots cry foul. if we tell something to media, they will call it moral policing. but they can talk any rubbish and get away with it. porkistan threatens that it will severe ties with india. what do we lose???????????? why bother about them at all. i am happy that such a thing happened and atleast porkistan wakes up now and starts behaving like a responsible nation. or a day will come when the whole world except USA will shun them.

(Reply to raghu)- Maddy says:

January 25,2010 at 08:26 AM IST

i agree withu mate We INDIANS HAVE THE ECONOMY AND THE MONEY IN THIS AGE WHILE PAKISTAN IS A BLOODY EXCUSE OF A COUNTRY ...WE OWN CRICKET ACCEPT IT AND LIVE WITH IT ..AND NOT ONLY THESE PAKIS WE BUY AND SELL ALL PLAYERS OFTHE WORLD ..iNDIA IS NEXT AFTER CHINA EVEN THE WESTERN COUNTRIES ACCEPT THE FACT THAT INDIA IS NEXT AFTER CHINA WHILE PAKISTAN IS A SCREWED UP CRAPPY COUNTRY ..

(Reply to abhay)- Abid Aziz says:

January 22,2010 at 12:00 AM IST

Terrible Blog from Mr Kalra, IPL wont last a few more years after snubbing Australia and Pakistan players. And Mr Kalra already "implies" that any attack in Kashmir or in India is "done by Pakistan".... Please lets grow up and let sportsmen play sports..... Shame on u "SECULAR" Indians

(Reply to Abid Aziz)- aryamihir says:

January 22,2010 at 03:19 PM IST

@ Abid Aziz. That IPL own't last for few more years is a wishfull thinking of every Pakistani but unfortunatily for them IPL is going strength to strength with every passing year and this is what Pakistanis are unable to digest. As for to let "sportsmen play sport" what MR.Aziz is forgetting is terrorism and sports can not go hand in hand and this is the message for Pakistan if you guys could understand it. As for his comment on Indian secularism well Mahammed Kaif and Yousuf Abdullah were bought by the franchisees so secularism could not be brought here but by the way what does a Pakistani like him would know about secularism? The real shame is that Pakistani players are begging for IPL contract and if alms are not thrown at them them they find it a national humilition.

(Reply to aryamihir)- ak says:

January 23,2010 at 09:47 AM IST

Kashmir will be part of pakistan

(Reply to Abid Aziz)- Goldie says:

January 22,2010 at 06:50 PM IST

IPL is not about secularism at all. It's business, pure and simple. And businesses are about making money. If the top honchos of the franchisees considered having a Pakistani player on their team a bad investment, who are we to question that? It's their money, they have a right to pick and choose. And it is indeed ultimately about money. I mean, if IPL was to give the Pakistani players to play pro-bono, I have no doubt we wouldn't be having these arguments right now!

(Reply to Goldie)- khan says:

January 26,2010 at 08:13 AM IST

dear i got your point they are true business man and Mr modi dont have right to bring pakistanis to the auction list and those fellows are not pick my any1 a player like afridi who make a household name in austriala. its a political conspricy

(Reply to Abid Aziz)- Buddhadev says:

January 23,2010 at 09:43 AM IST

If the IPL won't last a few more years, why are the Pakistanis crying and complaining about your players not being selected in it? What difference does it make to you?

(Reply to Abid Aziz)- him says:

January 25,2010 at 09:05 PM IST

EXACTLLY
U guys need to grow up. Who will take the security of pakistan players? Many of the matches are in mumbai.

(Reply to Abid Aziz)- him says:

January 25,2010 at 09:10 PM IST

@aziz, u guys remind me the storey of sour grapes. when u talk about IPL close out

(Reply to abhay)- Indian says:

January 22,2010 at 12:20 AM IST

@ Abhay

(Reply to abhay)- Ramesh Virani says:

January 22,2010 at 02:26 AM IST

Reading your responses below surely brings out one thing forward and that is how negative sentiment teh sentiment we have against our neighbours and how much venoum we have.

The point here is simple that yes the franchisee should be free to select whomever they want to as this is a business enterprise and they should be able be able to protect their brand (off course if they feel having a Pakistani player will cause an issue then not have them though in west this could be legally challenged but lets not forget we are still third world India); but if a franchise had given confirmations based on which the players were put on the list for sale then why wasnt one player picked. The franchises should not have shown interest in Pakistani players in the first instance. This clearly shows that there was something more than what meets the eye and the reason to be defensive. If IPL was clear upfront that IPL is closed to Pakistani players then no issues. You cant have your cake and eat it too !

(Reply to Ramesh Virani)- Ankur says:

January 22,2010 at 05:40 PM IST

Keep your mouth and computer shunted.

(Reply to Ramesh Virani)- Ankur says:

January 22,2010 at 05:41 PM IST

Would like to have further reasons, here is the intelligence:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Lashkar-readies-para-gliders-to-launch-suicide-attack-on-India-Intel/articleshow/5488687.cms

(Reply to Ankur)- sh says:

January 25,2010 at 08:22 PM IST

Ramesh Virani should be kesab's lawyer.

(Reply to Ramesh Virani)- kirti says:

January 25,2010 at 04:01 AM IST

how can you legally challenge,u must be the dumbest lawyer out there

(Reply to abhay)- Aman says:

January 22,2010 at 03:38 AM IST

Abhay, settle down..dont let your emotions make you look like an idiot.. IPL franchises deemed Pakistanis risky, did not want them for whatever the case may be, fine...THEN DONT GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF INVITING THEM AND SHOWING THAT THIS WAS A FAIR PROCESS??...when you knew you would not bid on them then why invite them, play this grand drama? Business decision my a$$, pure hyporcisy!This disaster could have been easily avoided...but these days Indians are on such high horses,(specially who sit in front of PCs and act so tough) that they forget that they themselves are not doing what they preach and those who point out are even shunned in their own country. Everyone knows that Pakistan will survive no matter what and will emerge stronger but these shameful acts of Indians will always be remembered.

(Reply to Aman)- Sunil says:

January 22,2010 at 01:00 PM IST

'Pakistan will survive no matter what' - LMAO...you guys are the limit...scourges...Learn to accept life the way it presents itself. Understand that you morons are paying the price for the irrational policies of your senile government (if you think you have one).

(Reply to Aman)- kuttan says:

January 22,2010 at 12:11 PM IST

Mr. Aman,

Please understand that there were 60 odd players from different countries in the auction, why are we making hue and cry on pakistanis not being selected.

There were others who were also not selected ,are those countries creating hue and cry on not being selected.

I just dont see any issue here, if the franchise didnt want to bid for a player to bad for him. ( lets not get the india /pak angle to this)

Also to put things in perspective, the list of players in the auticon none were invited, it was the players themesleves who registered for the auction.

I guess grow up guys and enjoy a good game of IPL-3 instead of wasting your time and energy on whinning anc crying foul.

And fellow indian i guess we have a far bigger and prressing issue to discuss and tackle on Indian Hockey...i guess that would be more prudent blog to discuss than IPL-3 and Pak players.

(Reply to Aman)- rohit says:

January 22,2010 at 05:03 PM IST

so mr aman ur telling @ shamefull acts then what @ Kargil,26/11,serial bomb last in mumbai local and many such countless deed done by paki waht @ that dude.and @ ur survival,dude what is a meaning of survival if ur surviving in fear.

(Reply to Aman)- innqubus says:

January 22,2010 at 05:15 PM IST

These Pakis read Times of "India"! Oh god. You should Jang!! Kindly get lost. Who is asking your opinion?

(Reply to innqubus)- Life_as_an_Indian says:

January 23,2010 at 01:17 PM IST

It is not the Pakis who read TOI . It is the silent supporters here who empathize and sympathize. It is IPL and it is INDIA. Get lost to your Porkistan with a useless government and a goddamned army

(Reply to Aman)- Ankur says:

January 22,2010 at 05:45 PM IST

If this is the planned act then I really appreciate the same. It is a slap by the method of Gandhiji. India should find this type of attacks let them feel of being slapped.

(Reply to Aman)- Manohar says:

January 22,2010 at 06:47 PM IST

@AMAN, seems like you don't like your A$$ and we don't mind it. This is not really a disaster which you want to hype so. You are telling as if you heard with your own ears from all the IPL franchisees asking Pak players to be put on auction. So don't try to behave like our irresponsible media which always try to put its own words into somebody's mouth. If you are so hopeful about the future of Pakistan that is good but no need to remind Indian people what they need to do or need not do. If you think yourself so wise and justful then try preaching your country fellows not to indulge in harming India and let us see what will be the outcome of that. As far as rest of us concerned, we are not bothered what you think. What you think about us hardly matters to us anymore. What you act will affect you only. Don't think that by talking about the good relationship with India you are doing us any favour. Always remember that if you think and act good towards your neighbours it is in your own interest but it is not a favour you are doing to your neighbours.

(Reply to Aman)- Goldie says:

January 22,2010 at 06:56 PM IST

I think Abahy is right! There really is no need for apologies. Just because somebody was made available for bidding doesn't mean that that person has to be bid on and "purchased". Just like at the auction houses the items are displayed for bidding. If any items don't get bid on and/or purchased, tough luck, better luck next time. You don't hear auction houses screaming "discrimination" or "humiliation" just because nobody bid on the works of some artist

(Reply to Aman)- TANAPP11 says:

January 22,2010 at 08:41 PM IST

Dude, you call this a disaster, shame on you, you guys killing innocent people for so many years in the name of Jihad (impotency) is a disaster, not XYZ player for Pakistan not getting selected for IPL.

This is not a shameful act, you guys are shameful, Jis Tahli main Kathehoon usi me ched karthehoon. You are are soo good that you would have used the IPL money against us again.

(Reply to Aman)- rose says:

January 23,2010 at 02:07 AM IST

Dear Aman!!bro don't tell these idiot indians bcoz they will understand..u know they as a nation so sneeky and hypocrate, they even don't hesitate to offer their daughters (Great King Akbar). Thr is a universal truth that "no one can win from those who can turnd down the promise or run from the battle field" We muslims(Pakistanies) had given them so much imunity during our 100years ruling over india...but don't worry now a days americans r enjoying their babies but they will come back to the ones who enjoyed at the first night..!! U know India hsn't got the balls to fight with Pak...thy will just creat drama like they did in Mumbai whr they killed their own people by themslevs including honest police officles which were investgating the serious issues in India...just don't bother to write anything for them...A so called emergin super power India..anounces on TV tht they will give lesson to Pak and hold their army at Pak border for more a year then took back by themselves...so how u gona rate them...they just can't digest someting around them...just ignored them and wait for the time when we will hav a chance..

(Reply to rose)- naresh says:

January 23,2010 at 03:53 PM IST

only pak girls can use such filthy language

(Reply to rose)- sambit says:

January 24,2010 at 10:51 AM IST

Dear Rose,
Your words shows ur background..u tend to live 500 yr backward..You cheat yourself n ur religion on the pretext of ur own Anger,cruelty,Jealousness and selfishness..
Grow up and live like a human....
Stop blaming others for ur problems..
u r wasting ur time here bursting your anger for stupid things...go bak n see ur country men are dieing of hunger,terrorism day n night..

India as a country is successful...the world recognises that...
For once,Stop looking at India...n look at yourself..
U will find one of the reason for your country's failure is "You" and people like you..

Its for people like you only,Pakistan and its peace loving and intellectual citizen are deprived ,backward and humiliated by world community..
Dont spend anymore time here..Intelligent people will laugh off ur comments,and stupids like u will reply u with filthy language....Go n act on ur own problems,u will get more answers .my dear pakistani friend..

(Reply to rose)- Maverick says:

January 25,2010 at 01:47 AM IST

Chance for what my dear rose...dont wait...coz u never know in ur so called beloved country when will be ur last breath with bombs exploding every other minute by those whom u nurtured for so long(talibans).Arey if India wants, it can finish off Pakistan in a flash...with so many chances given u never improved...like they say in hindi...a dogs tail can never be straightened...stop begging with india for everything

(Reply to Aman)- sonu says:

January 23,2010 at 04:07 AM IST

looks like u r the only responsible indian and when u say business decision my a$$ then pls tell us was it ur a$$ that were not taken
now for what happened at the auction i beleive that what happened was right and if it would be me in charge i would invite them again and wont bid on them again and again as they very well deserve it
and dont cry fairness out there before u do just ask what was fair in 26/11 and kargil and all the other back stabbings?????????
and u rightly say indians are on such high horses and thats why they didn't bid on donkeys
yes pakistan will survive so will pakis cause even after a nuclear explosion the only thing that survives is a COCKROACH
so i beleive that what u say is true
and nonetheless i am proud to be an indian and do what was done again and again

(Reply to sonu)- shashi says:

January 23,2010 at 02:23 PM IST

why the f***, are we trying to explain these porks... any how they dont konw about any human values, these fing pakis think money is more than life??
then we are ready to show u.. how it feels when u loose ur loved ones in shit work done by u gays on 26/11

(Reply to Aman)- Buddhadev says:

January 23,2010 at 09:48 AM IST

Aman -- Pakistan will emerge stronger? One would certainly hope so. It's been a long time coming though, isn't it? Maybe this is what "Aman ki aashaa" is all about... hummm...

(Reply to Aman)- anup says:

January 27,2010 at 10:37 PM IST

I doubt that pakistan will survive long.

(Reply to Aman)- Abhijit says:

March 08,2010 at 08:50 AM IST

LOL.. are all Pakistani's suffering from delusions of grandeur? Look at your country through someone else's eyes. It's nothing but a failure. You are ONLY thriving because of the billions thrown at you by ignorant countries like the US. So basically you are nothing but a bunch of fakirs begging at our doorstep. Shame on u? Shame on you, and the cowardice you show by promoting terrorism on your soil.

(Reply to abhay)- Ashok Gupta says:

January 22,2010 at 08:14 AM IST

IF PAKISTAN AS A COUNTRY IS UNDER AUCTION, WE WILL BE TOO PLEASED TO BUY AT THE RATE WHICH THEY JUST DESERVE, AND THE PAKISTANIS CAN LIVE LIKE SLAVES IN INDIA.

(Reply to Ashok Gupta)- PK says:

January 22,2010 at 04:11 PM IST

Frankly... I say... f**k em !

(Reply to abhay)- kartikey says:

January 22,2010 at 07:56 PM IST

just tell me one thing rajesh, what we need to do now to make these pak players happy ? spend money? if they really feel that IPL is so imp for them they should offer themselves for free and play. its redicules that we are suppose to be sorry for not buying a perticuler product because its from a country which also export terror to us. come on i am happy that pakistani economy will not get any money from indian economy via IPL and if anyone is sorry for them i want them to come and visit mumbai once again.

(Reply to abhay)- Hari says:

January 22,2010 at 10:17 PM IST

Wouldn't the same argument also apply to Australia? Shiv Sena has said that Australian players will not be allowed to play in Mumbai. So why did IPL select them?

(Reply to abhay)- SAM THE MAN FROM PAKISTAN says:

January 23,2010 at 06:31 AM IST

We in pakistan dont give a sweet f**uk about indian ipl.are you got is a bunch of morons looking for recognation.
hell with you loosers and stop bloging about pakistan,because we dont give a sweet f**ck about you footpath sweepers.

(Reply to SAM THE MAN FROM PAKISTAN)- AK SINGH says:

January 23,2010 at 09:11 PM IST

Then why all this HUNGAMA in PAK?????? Why are PAKI MINISTERS LIVE on TV. Indians do NOT want PAKIS anywhere in India- CRICKETERS or JEHADIS. Now that even SOUTH AFRICAN CRICKETERS do not want to come to PAK why don't the PAKIS begin another HUNGAMA against S-AFRICA too. OR is the ire reserved only for India???????

(Reply to SAM THE MAN FROM PAKISTAN)- Maverick says:

January 25,2010 at 01:52 AM IST

hahahaha.....if u dont give a shit bout IPL then y r u cryin like babies who r denied milk...ooooooo...y r u paki's always begging???

(Reply to SAM THE MAN FROM PAKISTAN)- sucheta says:

January 26,2010 at 09:10 PM IST

Oh sam from pakistan@ don't get frustrated for being called by the entire world as a failed Nation, by abusing strong power you can't be ready to compete with them, learn to be mature, time will come when you will have to sell every article of your home to make a living so calm down and be ready to clean USA's shit to begin with and then when you are good in sweeping we might hire you in contract services, so be ready sweepers:)

(Reply to abhay)- AK SINGH says:

January 23,2010 at 07:25 AM IST

Couldn't agree more with Abhay. The message of IPL is loud and clear. The PAK CRICKETERS are not welcome in India as long as PAK JEHADIS are being pushed in. The PAK PSEUDO-DEMOCRATIC GOVT crying from the roof-top on IPL issue is an effort to win over the PSEUDO-SECULARIST in India who have taken the bait and are beating their chest on all TV Channels and print Media- abusing IPL. Let The PAK GOVT stop PAKI ARMY pushing in JEHADIS to butcher Indians and then talk about Cricket.

(Reply to abhay)- swapnil says:

January 24,2010 at 07:59 AM IST

why the hell pakis taking IPL issue so seriously.. i think they need sm money man, well IPL is not a charity guys its a business man show and they wont put their money on risk...

(Reply to abhay)- SHAHID says:

January 24,2010 at 11:26 AM IST

WATCHING ANYTHING WITHOUT ANY RISKS OR ANY EFFORTS IN THE NAME OF SECURITY CANT JUSTIFY ANYTHING.PUT SOME EFFORT AND RISKS THE OUTCOME WILL BE GOOD..PEOPLE WILL LOVE IT...IPL IS NOW RICHMANS GAME AND POOR MANS TIME WASTAGE..GONA BOYCOT THIS YEARS IPL

(Reply to SHAHID)- Maverick says:

January 25,2010 at 01:54 AM IST

hahaha...Grapes turned sour....poor boy...

(Reply to SHAHID)- Aamir says:

January 26,2010 at 06:54 AM IST

Look who is talking about security. Forgot attack on srilankan players?

(Reply to abhay)- Raza says:

January 24,2010 at 12:20 PM IST

Pakistan end India's title defence at Under-19 World Cup
PTI, 23 January 2010, 12:30pm IST ...... The heading says it all!!!

(Reply to Raza)- PKS says:

January 25,2010 at 01:48 PM IST

RAZA, you are such a dumb dimwit. It is all a game, today Pak wins, tommorow India will win. Remember, that India beat Pak last year in finals. Stupid, one win does not make it a winner forever. And it has yet to win SF and then finals.

(Reply to abhay)- matta says:

January 25,2010 at 09:59 PM IST

why?? because indian should not forget descency, secondly if you dont want these players they should have kept them out of auction sigting the above reasons mentioned by the author why form a syndicate and stop bidding on them?? why insult a nation??? I would have been hurt if this was done to Indian players or anyone.

(Reply to abhay)- Rajesh says:

January 25,2010 at 10:38 PM IST

why comment.if you are good then u get picked up.they were not good and they were not picked up so what?lets accept we and pakistan can never be same.we are diffrent people different religion and if they were picked they would be trouble from different parties and esp when 26/11 has happened.the media has nothing to write so they pick up these silly things.i dont know why pakistani cricters are reacting so much.enjoy in our house and family

(Reply to abhay)- Nizamani! says:

January 25,2010 at 11:10 PM IST

I really feel sorry for indian people! Indian politicians get votes by bashing Pakistan. Indian TV Channels earn money by creating hype against Pakistan. And look at indians! they just repeat what their politicans and TV Anchors say! My dear indian fellows use your own brain and try to have your own opinion. Dont follow American people who are taught by CNN, FOX that Muslims are terrorists. Osama did 9/11... Do you guys really think that a group of so called terrrists under the leadership of Osama did 9/11... Do you really tink that a 10 mean came from Pakistan and attacked mumbai...??? Why would kasab and co kill kerkery? why would kasab and co attack israeli warebouts in mumbai? Why? Dont you indians think that such act would enhance Pakistan's enemity with Israel and India even further. If so then why would Pakistan and Pakistan Army do such foolish act... Think .. Think... Think...
My dear indian fellows, some stakeholders in your own government are involved in 26/11.. And Pakistani stupid goverment and puppets of US accepted it under internatinal pressure...
Bottom line is that Inidan goverment bhi uss behtee ganga me se haath dhonay ki koshish kar rahi k all muslims are terrorist or all terrorist are muslims... My dear indian fellows the only trerrorists in this world are US, UK and Israel.. Please,Please Please... my dear indian fellows try to distance from these monsters otherwise they will even destroy you fr their sack! God Bless India and God Bless Indians!

(Reply to Nizamani!)- manyam says:

January 27,2010 at 10:34 PM IST

Because Pakistan is like a monkey with a wound. It will keep scratching at it (read indulge in anti- Indian schemes) till it finally succumbs to it. That is what Pakistan is doing. VINASH KALE VIPARITA BUDDHI

(Reply to Nizamani!)- Prab says:

January 29,2010 at 04:32 AM IST

He thinks he is a mullah preaching in a madrassa. good attempt though. keep it up. May be ask Sonia, chidambram and Gill and yeah SRK to donate some money so you can start a real one in case you are running out of money. SRK may fund you. pseudos will too. and yeah don;t forget to ask Arjun singh for accredition of the madrassa. i know where you are going with this justification. taliban are jihads. you muslims are so blinded by religion that your brains have become filty.

(Reply to abhay)- sunny says:

January 26,2010 at 12:29 AM IST

why did Chidambaram have to now come up with such a statement? oh our poloticians. when the storm had lulled they recraete it! the govt has clarified it had no job in IPL selection then why bother about it now? is the home minister worried that PAK could shore up more terrorist attacks in the wake of the IPL fiasco? The IPL franchises have every right to choose who they want? And why bother to much , does the home minsiter want some pakistan players to fill their pockets with easy money? didn't hear any of these players come out against attacks in india carried out by Paksitan sponsered terrorists!!

politiciansdo your job and don't meddle in cricket!!

(Reply to abhay)- Jayesh says:

January 27,2010 at 05:32 PM IST

I completely agree with you Abhay. India has always been a country who has accepted faults gleefully encouraging them to become crimes. We have had multiple snaps from Pakistan till date ranging from the issue regarding the parliament to the 26/11 attack. In reply we have been begging for enquiries, pleading for action and so on. The state is so shameful that we have opened our doors to Pakistan to do business activities, encouraged imports for things which wont have demand had it not been for us, backed their business community with time-to time aid. IPL - our tournament, our money, our sponsors, our concept - it was teh right time to send a message across to these folks by many more instances of boycott of any Pakistani essence if there; be it players or any other medium. I really dont understand how can we as a country have such a shameless attitude towards a series of slaps we have recieved from pakistan so far. M S Gill

(Reply to abhay)- Cynic says:

January 27,2010 at 06:02 PM IST

Its my country - I dont want to see Kasab or Afridi in India - simple as that - cant you pakis get it ?

(Reply to abhay)- rajan says:

January 27,2010 at 06:39 PM IST

And biggest nonsense is by SRK. he seems to have cake and eat it too. HE WAS OWNER and now he is hsowin ghis dissatisfaction for not taking Pak players. He is just doing publicity of his new coming MNIK. Mr Khan, we are not int in whether your mohter was paki or your dad was paki, you are Indian citizen so behave like one

(Reply to abhay)- Abhishek Shaswat says:

January 27,2010 at 06:54 PM IST

I am wondering why these Media and some of our dirty politicians making this IPL a BIG issue like this? don't we have other things to take care in India?
I was suprised means every one starting from Sharukh, ministers, why all these guys are saying that IPL franchise should have selected pakistani players, can't we All stand up and say, YES,we have NOT SELECTED YOU AND WE WILL NOT SELECT YOU in future alsO UNTILL AND UNLESS PAKISTAN IS GOING TO STOP ALL THIS CROSS BORDER TERRORISM, what do you want you will send some bloody terrorist to make attacks on Mumbai, you will attack our parliament, you will play Kargil and with all this you want to be welcomed in our country for IPL matches?
i want to ask all and i mean all evern SRK, Ministers and evryone who are saying that pakistani player should have been selected in IPL,suppose a family living in your Neighboured and have 2 childrens, you are living Next to them. Today its your daughter birthday and one of there child come and tease your daughter and misbehaves with her, (i dont want to use stupid language here so avoid),now wht you are going to do tonight in you daughters birthday party will you be inviting there parents and other child and treat them with Dignity.because i will not.i will beat that asshole to death.
so its now upto these dirty ministers and mr. SRk to decided what they want.

In my opinion we shuld have broken all our ties with Pakistan when Kargil was done, but we welcomes mushrraf and he was the official guest, the guy behing the Kargil in which lots of our soldiers lost there lives.

let see what they are going to do i think now we need one more REVOLUTION in INDIA to make it free from corrupt ministers, and such peoples who keep appraising the enemy.
if they have to live in India, they shud think and Act as an Indian,

(Reply to abhay)- bharat says:

January 28,2010 at 06:33 AM IST

india should only allow pakistanis to play in IPL wen they stop supporting terriorism in our country-people like shahrukh khan should be send back to pakistan were he can organize the league

(Reply to abhay)- Aijaz Syed says:

January 28,2010 at 07:28 AM IST

I am an Indian Muslim, a proud Indian and a proud Muslim. I was proud that we Indians had the balls to say NO to Pakis. Then we were apologetic, then excuses, then backpeddling, then taking them. Do we not understand Pakistanis, they gonna stab us in our backs. For Allah's sake, do we not remember 26/11 when innocent citizens were murdered in our streets. We are fools without balls. WE DONT WANT PAKIS in IPL, It is INDIAN Premier League, why the hell pakis want to be part of our domestic league, we they hell are we letting them in on it, after they murdered again and again our innocent citizens.

 

jaya says:

January 21,2010 at 02:32 PM IST

Not really! Rest of the players may want more of the comfort zone! Little more careful; not to have any tension on and off the field! The rest is unsaid the better! Because anyone can sense it!----jaya

(Reply to jaya)- saket mishra says:

January 22,2010 at 12:08 AM IST

see. its not about players.. of course.. sportsman should be allowed to come and play.. but what about attcks on sri lankan players in pakistan.. where the hell .. these pakistani police and people were sleeping. This is something which led to all situation. Mere burning effigy and shouting slogans against India will not solve the problem. The fact is that they itself (Pakistanis) want a peaceful solution to the ongoing Kashmir crisis.

 

Pankaj M says:

January 21,2010 at 02:33 PM IST

This is a right perspective of the situation.
But I feel, the government would win the heart of the nation if they declare that cabinet ministers were involved in influencing this decision by the franchisees.

 

Ganesh says:

January 21,2010 at 02:34 PM IST

I think the readers reaction to the last blog, bleeding for the pakistan cause has turned TOI inside out.What a contrast.Shows their pliable national interest.

 

Amit says:

January 21,2010 at 02:35 PM IST

cant agree more..

(Reply to Amit)- mani says:

January 21,2010 at 03:43 PM IST

of course.. even I wont agree (to what ?) !!

(Reply to mani)- Hussain says:

January 21,2010 at 05:25 PM IST

The Paki Players or the Paki Govt has nothing to do with the IPL, this is Purely an Indian Leaugue. PCB shud concentrate more on the performance of its players a la Afridi

 

Vikas says:

January 21,2010 at 02:46 PM IST

Well I think that not having Pak players in IPL-III
will not make much of a difference.True that they are the world T-20 current champions but IPL is a different scenario whole-together, plus not having 1-2 pak player in a team will give space to other new international talent.So people will not be short of entertainment,Investors will not be short of players,organisers will be 'short of' tension regarding security.. What else does one wants from IPL??? So Pak players --> we dont care...

(Reply to Vikas)- Mehmut says:

January 21,2010 at 08:21 PM IST

Vikas, we don't care either. Its your pure Indian arrogance that made this into a situation by inviting the 11 players in the first place. Offering inane excuses has made India a laughing stock in cricketing eyes and beyond. I don't think much of 20:20, despite being champions; IPL is just plain confusing for any patriotic cricketer follower. Good riddance.

(Reply to Mehmut)- Sarthak says:

January 22,2010 at 09:17 AM IST

Who has become a laughing stock can very well be judged by witnessing the reaction of the Pakistani players, politicians and the people overall. The players talking about national pride is all bullshit. The only thing they are upset about is the money. Go back home and learn to play test cricket first. We don't need you sore losers here on our soil.

(Reply to Mehmut)- Kaly says:

January 22,2010 at 06:12 PM IST

"NACH NA JANE TO ANGAN TEDA"....You were not hired...so u donot care...even we donot care u....

(Reply to Mehmut)- Abhijeet says:

January 22,2010 at 06:11 PM IST

I do no want to boast being No. 1 Test Nation. And I will not insult my nation by comparing it with Pakistan. India is trillion Dollar Developed Economy with peace and prosperity and proud of its achievement. While pakistan is a failed state, please US and china hard, all the time. There is nothing here to argue over. First earn your bread and butter and then dream of a money leagues like IPL

(Reply to Mehmut)- Prashant P says:

January 24,2010 at 12:40 AM IST

You are such a nitwit. IPL is a pure private entertainment oriented sport. Its not the world cup. No country gets the credit for anything anyway, its the sponsor's teams which do. So its stupid to make it country centric. Yes the more important thing is perhaps the monetary value involved. Sad to see the Paki folks blow it our of proportion. Maybe they should focus on what they call the NON STATE ACTORS and reign them first :)

(Reply to Mehmut)- Maverick says:

January 25,2010 at 01:56 AM IST

Grapes turned sour...poor boy

 

Shaleen says:

January 21,2010 at 02:55 PM IST

This perspective comes little too late, anyhow the damage has been done to the cricket fraternity. International celebrities should not be treated like this. Its a shame on us.

(Reply to Shaleen)- Jimmy says:

January 21,2010 at 04:47 PM IST

I couldn't help wonder as to why would you think that its a shame on us? Its a mutual decision by the businessmen who invest there money. Its there choice to pick or kick. Look at the australian team. Only 1 out of 9 players were selected. Did u hear australian cry? And I feel sad that being a national of the country you would actually feel ashamed of what in my opinion is the rightful decision as his(paki player) fellow countrymen kill people in India and he is allowed to enjoy cricket and money. Now that would be a shame on us!!

Thanks
Jimmy

(Reply to Jimmy)- Shaleen says:

January 21,2010 at 06:10 PM IST

Thanks for ur comment. First of all let me correct ur facts that most of the current Australian players will be missing out on IPL 3 due to international assignments and have we forgotten that Afridi was the man of the series in the T20 World Cup 2009. So it goes for Aamer and Gul. Its definitely the personal decision of the sponsors but I am sorry to say its politically motivated. Even I am a hard-core Indian, but insulting International celebrities in not called for. They could have used better way of not including them in IPL or I must say we have a long-standing history of insulting our own national

(Reply to Shaleen)- Kiran says:

January 22,2010 at 12:32 PM IST

Shaleen, Though what you have said seems like what India has been doing for ages now, being honourable and treating our enemies with respect, it has gotten us nowhere.They have mutilated our soldiers' bodies, without minimum respect for a fellow soldier, have perpetrated proxy war (back-handed) on us since they will not be able to win a full-fledged war with us, have led to evacuation of thousand of pundits in Kashmir leading them to leave their normal prosperous lives,given us 26/11.. who are we kidding.we said hindi-chini bhai bhai, we got 1962 war, we propounded importance of trade ties for pakistanis' good, we got kargil..when the enemy is honourable, what you says works..we do not have an option but to pay back in the same coin,this doesnt mean we commit excesses against them and Not bidding for pakistanis is not an excess or terrorism like they have been propagating against us, but a small reminder to them as to what thy can lose if they do not have proper relations with us, and maintain peace in the sub continent.
Cheers
Kiran

(Reply to Shaleen)- Maverick says:

January 25,2010 at 02:01 AM IST

Oh! so u mean to say..shaking hands on a peace treaty

(Reply to Shaleen)- him says:

January 25,2010 at 09:21 PM IST

@shaleen,u might have forgot the way afridi behave with deccan teams in first ipl. this people r not having any shame.

(Reply to Jimmy)- Abhimanyu says:

January 21,2010 at 09:10 PM IST

Shaleen, why dont u migrate to Pak? Am sure the govt. will more than welcome u, ur mind anyways dont seem to belong to this country. Why take the trouble to stay here anymore. Trust me no-one no-one will even once ask u to stay back here. Do us a favour plss

(Reply to Abhimanyu)- Samir says:

January 22,2010 at 05:39 AM IST

Abhimanyu, Cricket is a religion above Hinduism and Islam in India and Pakistan both. Its a shame on your and my indianness that u r asking a fellow indian to migrate to Pak just because free speech is allowed in this country...Beggars cant be chosers but Owners can be..So if the owners have decided(politically motivated though) to not choose Paki players then its perfectly alright.....This would be same as if, You go out in the market to buy Potatoes,and suddenly some goonda has forced you to buy from a basket of low quality Potatoes Keeping the good ones aside (for some crazy reason)....I guess u r perfectly fine with this kind of attitude, ain't U?????

(Reply to Jimmy)- Abhimanyu says:

January 21,2010 at 09:10 PM IST

Shaleen, why dont u migrate to Pak? Am sure the govt. will more than welcome u, ur mind anyways dont seem to belong to this country. Why take the trouble to stay here anymore. Trust me no-one no-one will even once ask u to stay back here. Do us a favour plss

(Reply to Abhimanyu)- Samir says:

January 22,2010 at 05:39 AM IST

Abhimanyu, Cricket is a religion above Hinduism and Islam in India and Pakistan both. Its a shame on your and my indianness that u r asking a fellow indian to migrate to Pak just because free speech is allowed in this country...Beggars cant be chosers but Owners can be..So if the owners have decided(politically motivated though) to not choose Paki players then its perfectly alright.....This would be same as if, You go out in the market to buy Potatoes,and suddenly some goonda has forced you to buy from a basket of low quality Potatoes Keeping the good ones aside (for some crazy reason)....I guess u r perfectly fine with this kind of attitude, ain't U?????

(Reply to Shaleen)- Shantanu Bangal says:

January 21,2010 at 05:59 PM IST

IPL is INDIAN LEAGUE!!!
so all the decisions would be INDIA'S!!!
instead of crying "we are humiliated" and shouting about conspiracy theories the Pakistani nationals should take a look at there own country and think wisely why all this has happened!!!
As the saying goes "as u sow, so shall u reap".

(Reply to Shaleen)- krishna says:

January 21,2010 at 06:15 PM IST

Why should you consider this as a shame. It is the right of the owner of the team to bid or not. When you goto shop you do not pick all that is on show you pick only what you feel safe and sure. Being an Indian you take on this is very very surprising. Probably you not from Mumbai then you will know the hurt.The security of all the other players and the comfort of the players is more important than the paki players.

(Reply to Shaleen)- mouli says:

January 21,2010 at 06:26 PM IST

Pakistan, who cares.

It has nothing to do if they are world beaters or world eaters. This is T20 run by individual clubs and for their benefit incidentally they also select global talents.

(Reply to mouli)- Imtiaz says:

January 22,2010 at 03:25 AM IST

The issue is really is that It is beneath "india" to treat people like this--pakistani or otheriwse. Our culture is quite specific about how to treat Guests and travellers. It would've been fine just like IPL @ that we are not including Pakistani players because of political turmoil. nobody would've thought any different but to ask them to come and apply for Visa and participate in the auction and then drop them for non-cricketing reason just because of nationality. India can and should do better.

(Reply to Imtiaz)- Maverick says:

January 25,2010 at 02:06 AM IST

Oh! u mean to say shaking hands on a peace talk

(Reply to mouli)- Gayathri says:

January 22,2010 at 03:54 AM IST

Well, I think the greatness of our country lies in the fact that we are democratic and there is freedom of speech. Just because a citizen does not agree with the majority there is no need to question their patriotism. Let us show the world that we are a mature functioning democracy where people are allowed to express their thoughts without any fear. Let us not Talibanize India.

(Reply to Gayathri)- partha says:

January 23,2010 at 04:15 PM IST

@ Gayathri
Change the attitude, no other country cares abt it. remember offence is the best policy for defence. Be practical, why we attach so much of importance to what pakistan feels. do u expect any positive from pakis? since 1947 it never happened. Count wot v received from our moron naibour.

(Reply to mouli)- mr oneworld says:

January 22,2010 at 04:51 AM IST

please talk to me3:08 pm
real india world nr 1

India's shame: Sexual slavery, the Prostitution Racket and Child prostitutes ... in world nr 1

India's external debt was $442.8 billion at the end of September 2009

The "largest democracy in the world" does not have a clean human rights records. Every year,Millions of people are imprisoned for ...without charges of trials. Torture and ill-treatment are common, and thousand have died in custody. Thousand more are victims of extra-judicial executions or forced "disappearances". Armed groups commit grave human rights violations, including killings, tortures and rapes, with impunity

(Reply to mr oneworld)- Vicky says:

January 22,2010 at 09:36 AM IST

did you cook this for your lunch? these numbers are good. keep cooking up more numbers - you moron.

(Reply to mr oneworld)- DontCareAboutPakis says:

January 22,2010 at 05:34 PM IST

And how exactly this has to anything with this Blog or IPL for that matter.... Idiot

(Reply to mr oneworld)- Maverick says:

January 25,2010 at 02:10 AM IST

hahaha...look who is talkin...the breeding ground of terrorists across the world where a bomb goes off every other minute

(Reply to Shaleen)- tarun says:

January 22,2010 at 01:48 AM IST

yes it is shame on us untill we have indian who thing like u

 

Sharda Bhargav - The Confiscated Soul says:

January 21,2010 at 02:57 PM IST

Not bidding for Pakistan's players is businessmen's decison.

 

chinmay says:

January 21,2010 at 03:00 PM IST

finally !! India is standing up for itself..!! Its INDIAN premier league.... played in INDIA ... INDIAN franchises ... INDIAN spectators are the main draw.... INDIA has been wronged too many times by the pak is ,,, no PAKis allowed..!! simple as that.. they say this is gonna affect relations... well HELLO.!! relations are already affected by Pak sponsored jehadi scum.. sahee hai.. aap kare to chamatkaar aur hum kare to atyachar..!! serves em right..!!

 

Babu says:

January 21,2010 at 03:02 PM IST

As mentioned in my own e mails written some time ago, franchisees are the spenders of money and they would like to spend it wisely with an eye on return on investment. It is a big business with all franchisees competing with one another for the coveted prize money. No franchisee would like to lose money or brand name for themselves by backing some one who is either not available fully to them or there is an element of uncertainty. This is a fair auction with no bitterness towards any players. I feel said for gentleman players like Sohail Tanveer, Mohammed Aamer etc. We cannot see them in the current IPL. But better luck next time in 2011.

(Reply to Babu)- Mohit says:

January 21,2010 at 04:37 PM IST

gentleman players like Sohail Tanveer, Mohammed Aamer etc?? Are you kidding? These are the gentlemen who are crying foul after not been included in IPL-3 claiming that IPL-3 was (mis)using their pictures for publicity and that by not including them IPL organisers have insulted the nation, game of criket and so on... Such gentlemen can sit back at home and enjoy some exicting cricket @IPL3.

 

Kirtyanand says:

January 21,2010 at 03:02 PM IST

Well,at the moment when the ties between the two nations-india and pakistan are not in the greatest of conditions,it is ridiculous to think of a situation where the IPL franchise should invest in Pakistani players.After all,you do not invest 100 crores of rupees to draw the fury of the nation where you are getting the money from.So a decision very rightly taken and lets hope that someday when the relations between india and pakistan get better,we can have an all country participation in the IPL teams.Purists,please for one moment stop being cry babies and stop singing the songs of sports spirit!

(Reply to Kirtyanand)- Shagun says:

January 21,2010 at 03:22 PM IST

If you are saying that just because the relations are not going good with Pakistan what the IPL franchisee did was right then they should have done the same with the australian player because what is happening in australia is also straining india-australia relations then why this exception. Isn't it double standards.......

being a sports lover i would luv to see a good team and i dont mind which country they belong too. Don't mix politics with sports.......

(Reply to Shagun)- shashank kumar says:

January 21,2010 at 04:18 PM IST

what is happening in Australia is not government sponsored and they don't want to destroy India. But our neighbor want to destroy us . Thats the difference.

(Reply to shashank kumar)- Dilesh says:

January 22,2010 at 12:25 AM IST

That's a smart reply. Australia doesn't want to destroy us; but Pakistan does. For last 50 years, Pak has tried to destroy India. Their civic society has never criticized these extreme actions and has blamed India when Indians are always victims. We don't want Pakis coming to india and earning all fame and fortune and continue being a menace on other side. No need to be apologetic to any pak cricketers. Also IPL is private, so they can make their own decisions.

(Reply to Shagun)- Anuj says:

January 21,2010 at 05:04 PM IST

Have you ever lost a single relative or a person you knew in terrorism sponsored by pakistan? If you had, then you would have been supporting non inclusion of pak players. All those who are in favor of Pakistan players, please think about the people who have been killed in terrorism sponsored by Pakistan...
You morons.....you can sell your mother in the name of "Aman Ki Asha"..!!!

(Reply to Anuj)- XxXxX says:

January 26,2010 at 01:13 AM IST

Actually, Anuj, pakistans' themselves are losing loved ones every day in bomb blasts in pakistan...i'm sure that these people haven't agreed to it. Also, I want to emphasis the fact that when you indians talk about pakistan you should not generalise. You have to realise that the majority (I should say nearly all) of Pakistan population does not agree with terrorism of any kind...

(Reply to Shagun)- Rajesh says:

January 21,2010 at 05:19 PM IST

Shagun,

You seems to be mentally unstable by saying Pakistan=Australia.

Australia or citizens there dont hate India at all and not running terrorits camps to de-stabilize India.

 

dinesh says:

January 21,2010 at 03:06 PM IST

i think what all franchises did, is RIGHT, as they need value for there money and on this if pakistani palyers and there MP's have any problem then why they donot put presssure on there govt to stop sponsering terrorism to make a start.

 

Shagun says:

January 21,2010 at 03:07 PM IST

As an avid sports lover i believe that we shouldn't mix sports with politics. If we still want to do that then why this double standard, why are we not treating Australians the same way. They might not be sponsoring terrorism but they have not left any stone unturned when it comes to humilation our cricket team and now the curry bashing in Australia, which doesn't want to accept that racial profiling is happening there. So why bid for Damien Martin and on the other hand leaving a deserving and good player just because he happens to be from our neighbouring country.
Why did you invited them and later humilated them like this, if you didnt wanted them to be a part of your team you should have told them that. How would you react if same thing happened to someone from our country?

Talking as a sports lover.

(Reply to Shagun)- Kirtyanand says:

January 21,2010 at 03:29 PM IST

Shagun,i agree with you but only on paper.If we get a little prudent and think,it will be very clear that Australian racism is nothing in comparison to the animosity between india and pakistan.

(Reply to Shagun)- Anoop Unnithan says:

January 21,2010 at 03:31 PM IST

curry bashing in australia is nothing compared to the terrorist attacks by the pakis.....to some extent racisim is exp. in all the countries and even in india. we can for give the aussies...but certainly not the pakis....the tension with is now more that 60 years..and we have forgiven them on many occassions and have tried to bridge this gap tthrough sports...but enough is enough. esp after 26/11.....
We dont need to entertain any pakis in india for any reason....

(Reply to Shagun)- Zia says:

January 21,2010 at 05:23 PM IST

Of course sports and politics are related. Stop parotting that old tiring line by Imran Khan. If they continue to send terrorists into India, like they have been doing since independence, then relations will become so soiled that even sports and normal interation will be impossible. All Pakistani products, artists, cultural exchanges(whatever their culture is) should be banned from Indian soil. The majority of Indians hate Pakistan and everything they stand for so playing sport with them is meaningless. It is time for the rest of the world to follow suit and ban the Pakistani cricket team from any future tours. Banning them would be in the global interest because Pakistan cricket and their followers repulse a lot of people. Have you ever been to a Pakistan cricket match? They chant only two things; 'Pakistan Zindabad', and 'Allahu Akbar'. Who the hell wants to play sport with them?

 

SAYAK BHATTACHARYA says:

January 21,2010 at 03:08 PM IST

Who says it is compulsory to include someone from pakistan. Apart from Sohail Tanveer show me one pak player who has excelled in IPL. Don't forget that KKR bought Shoaib Akhtar at a time when he was down and out in his own country. Where were those who are now shouting at the top of their voices. If SRK is buying Akhtar and Mortaza for an absurd sum, those are purely from the business point of view. There is no point in mixing sports and politics. No need to be Apologetic.

 

CS PURANIK says:

January 21,2010 at 03:13 PM IST

For far too long we have been at the receiving end of diplomacy and Pakistani establishment has got away with murders & more. This could not be better than any diplomatic coup!

TOI is showing an ostrich like mentality in not gauging Nations's mood and feeding us wooly ideas like AMAN KI ASHA.

First let the Pakistani rulers show that they are serious for friendship, by procecuting the persons behind 26/11 (We know it is not going to happen in our life time).

This indirect ban on Pak players serves symbolic message that Indian public will not tolerate another 26/11

 

Sylvester says:

January 21,2010 at 03:20 PM IST

Pak foregin minister's statement that IPL owners have shown disrespect to Pak criceters is laugable. Did the Pak Govt show any respect to Indian citizens when it sent the 26/11 terrorists who openly killed Indians? And so far the Pak Govt has not shown any sign of punishing those guilty of 26/11. Well, the Pak criceters must suffer the commissions or ommissions of their own government.

(Reply to Sylvester)- shahid says:

January 21,2010 at 06:44 PM IST

True pakistan citizen are showing disrespect but same time what indian citizen are showing with kismiris,

(Reply to shahid)- lejo says:

January 21,2010 at 07:19 PM IST

What Kashmir?its a integral part of India so we do as we want.
First you solve Baluchistan problem then lets talk abt kashmir

(Reply to shahid)- Maverick says:

January 25,2010 at 02:25 AM IST

Which Kasmiris r u talking bout???the Kasmiri Pandits...who were butchered by the Muslim militants

 

tejas says:

January 21,2010 at 03:20 PM IST

Its not bt Franchisees ignoring PAK players...They hav sensed nation's mood...either Shiv Sena or MN Sena or Public Sena either of them wud hav damaged any franchisee's mood n reputation....Also there are highly entertaing talent is there already with IPL so not to worry bt Pak flameboyount...Jst enjoy IPL now without much thinking

 

beekey says:

January 21,2010 at 03:22 PM IST

Why all these nosies about Pakistani players havent been sold? there were only few slots available and the franchisees went for safer bets. the Pakistani players and those who raise a hue and cry over this ,should reflect seriously as to why this happened and blame their own leaders(or the terrorists whom their leaders are harbouring)!It still rankles every true and patriotic indian how these politicans leaders from pakistan is still harbouring the terrorists who ventured into Mumbai on 26/11 and killed so many people! Anyways, one shd understand the indian government had no hand in pakistan players not being picked up for IPL.

(Reply to beekey)- Mohsin says:

January 22,2010 at 03:05 AM IST

Please answer this without getting emotional.
If this was done for Pakistani leaders are harboring terrorist then they should have made it clear already. What was the point of doing all the drama of getting clearance from Pakistani Government etc?

(Reply to Mohsin)- Maverick says:

January 25,2010 at 02:27 AM IST

kiya toh kiya..kya ukhaad loge...when u kill innocent indias ...do u ask

(Reply to Mohsin)- beekey says:

January 28,2010 at 11:15 AM IST

Moshin,it's not for pakistani leaders that they are harbouring terrorists.franchisees invest heavily and they have the right to chose or not to chose.Imagine,your corrupt,inefficient leaders of Pakistan allow one more TERRORIST ACTIVITY LIKE MUMBAI 26/11(YOUR OWN TOP GOVERNEMNT CHAP HAS SAID FEW DAYS BACK THAT HE CANT GUARANTEE ABOUT THIS TYPE OF ATTACK ON INIDAN SOVERIGNITY)!such an inept and cowardly leader and his group need not make all these hue and cry over this!what right they have in condmning IPL and its franchisees?We all love to watch any good and excellent player whether he is a pakistani or Australian or any one else. its sad Pakistanis cant participate,but you should understand the ground realities.If Pakistan doesnot curb the terrorist activites,the days wont be far,in every sporting sphere,the players will be ignored/barred by every nation.Just introspect yourself about the state of affairs in ur own country and you will know.

 

Abu Akram says:

January 21,2010 at 03:23 PM IST

I agree well with you. When we have of doubts of security of the Pakistani players, we should have not invited them and included in bidding and auctions in first place. Its really a snob to Pakistan. Is as simple as that.

(Reply to Abu Akram )- himan says:

January 25,2010 at 09:27 PM IST

@abu, nobody invited to ipl, players beg to be included.

 

Kirtyanand says:

January 21,2010 at 03:25 PM IST

Well,at the moment when the ties between the two nations-india and pakistan are not in the greatest of conditions,it is ridiculous to think of a situation where the IPL franchise should invest in Pakistani players.After all,you do not invest 100 crores of rupees to draw the fury of the nation where you are getting the money from.So a decision very rightly taken and lets hope that someday when the relations between india and pakistan get better,we can have an all country participation in the IPL teams.Purists,please for one moment stop being cry babies and stop singing the songs of sports spirit!

 

Praveen P says:

January 21,2010 at 03:30 PM IST

After all its business. Why someone who wants to make profit would like to take any such risks. And its not Govt of India who is denying and its not a govt matter. Its pure business which is purely a the will of the owners since they are payin heavy taxes for these events. I am in favour of the IPL franchisees.

 

Ravi says:

January 21,2010 at 03:30 PM IST

IPL franchisees 100% right. Why the hell should we encourage the Pakistanis on Indian Soil ? Let them go to hell. If they are so much hurt by the IPL action, then why don't they start their own version of IPL and start inviting bids. The fact is the Paki media is plainly jealous about India and our progress.

 

kartik says:

January 21,2010 at 03:32 PM IST

IPL has done the right thing. Let it be a humiliation for pakistani players. Let them learn a lesson out of it. India should not entertain any sportsman from pakistan as long as that country is busy exporting terroists into India. I hope India continues to stand firm in this. Enough of soft approach towards this rogue country.

Australia will have to face the same fate if racial discrimination continues unabated.

 

O P Banga says:

January 21,2010 at 03:33 PM IST

People of India as well of Pakistan by and large have 'Aman ki Asha' and bidding for even a few of the Pakistani players would have marked goodwill. 'Eye for Eye' is no solution at all.

I still cherish the memories of goodwill and courtesy extended to us during our visit to a few places in Pakistan in 1998. Goodwork being done by our doctors needs to be extended in other spheres as well.

(Reply to O P Banga)- Ravi says:

January 21,2010 at 06:52 PM IST

You go and talk to the people who lost their cherished ones on 26/11 and see what they have to say about those Pakis. It Seems to me that you are one of those pro Pakis agents. Your talk on Aman ki Asha is plain Bu*****t.

(Reply to O P Banga)- lejo says:

January 21,2010 at 07:23 PM IST

Good will my foot,we all remember KARGIL which happend after that.
Its Eye for an Eye

(Reply to O P Banga)- tarun says:

January 22,2010 at 02:01 AM IST

we marked goodwill
n they mark bullets
apalling

 

Faisal says:

January 21,2010 at 03:38 PM IST

Hi,

I am Pakistani and cricket lover.
I think that IPL has right to not take Pakistani players whatever reason they have.
Their country, their league their right to do whatever thy want.
For Pakistani cricketers who feel sad because of it, should win next 20/20 and 50 over world cups. That will be a good reply and a slap on IPL face. Otherwise, these player should stop complaining...

(Reply to Faisal)- shankar says:

January 21,2010 at 04:17 PM IST

It serves right for the pakistan players who have not been picked up for the IPL.
With the tensions around between Ind-Pak, even the aam janta would not have tolerated any paki cricketer in India.
Forget about Pak winning 20/20 , let them first raise funds and pay the salaries to their cricketers.
The hue and cry is these paki cricketers are more disappointed in loosing the big IPL endorsement, nothing else.

(Reply to Faisal)- Mohammed Imthiaz says:

January 21,2010 at 05:31 PM IST

Firstly, I suggest you investigate your Pakistani cricket team and find out who really killed Bob Woolmer. Was it Inzamam, Mohammed 'ultra religious' Zousuf, Tobacco chewing Younis Khan, Shoaib 'coolie' Malik, Shahid 'too dumb for jihad' Afridi, or Shoaib 'herpes' Akhtar?
Your cricketers brutally killed poor Bob Woolmer and now want to play in our IPL. The Pakistani cricket team should be banned from all Future Tours because their team consists of potential 'budding' terrorists and their country is a terrorist shithole.

 

abhay says:

January 21,2010 at 03:38 PM IST

Why the hell are you even apologetic?. Looks like these intellectuals in media are beyond redemption. They don't even seem to know the pulse of the nation. After through bashing from the people in previous article in the blog they are trying to do a cover up.

 

Khan firdis says:

January 21,2010 at 03:41 PM IST

why every body (media) cry on this matter? why ur giving too much importance to this subject? all forgot about 26/11? see ysterday, they burn effigy of lalit Modi. very good all team. keep it up!!!!!!!!

 

Mani says:

January 21,2010 at 03:41 PM IST

huh !! here comes a pundit !! did your boss tell you to apply some balm on readers, so that the stupidity written yesterday by someone else started creating negative publicity for your newspaper ? Let me tell you, we don't need your balm and agreement. Even without your agreement, the public opinion is that it is better off to keep these pakistanis away. Majority of Indians are fed up of the pakistanis and their antics. Sure, the crickets themselves \'may\' be innocent; but after all, they are pak citizens, whose government hurt us unrelentingly for the last 50+ years. So the nation and world is better off without the pakistanis, in all form of life.

 

Mani says:

January 21,2010 at 03:41 PM IST

huh !! here comes a pundit !! did your boss tell you to apply some balm on readers, so that the stupidity written yesterday by someone else started creating negative publicity for your newspaper ? Let me tell you, we don't need your balm and agreement. Even without your agreement, the public opinion is that it is better off to keep these pakistanis away. Majority of Indians are fed up of the pakistanis and their antics. Sure, the crickets themselves \'may\' be innocent; but after all, they are pak citizens, whose government hurt us unrelentingly for the last 50+ years. So the nation and world is better off without the pakistanis, in all form of life.

 

ARUN says:

January 21,2010 at 03:43 PM IST

Definitely DM is no better than afridi. In the preview of actions taken it is a clear sub to Pakistan. It's not fair, we shouldn't have snubbed them. IPL is different game so is ODI.There are lot of theories goin around but i do feel for PAK players. They have been cleverly and clearly ignored...

(Reply to ARUN)- suresh says:

January 21,2010 at 03:48 PM IST

arun, why dont you go to pakistan with your family and stay there ? are you out of your minds to support that country and their citizens ? (may be you havent lost anyone in your family due to terrorism - ask somebody who lost their dear ones in mumbai hotel attack on 26/11)

 

kartik says:

January 21,2010 at 03:43 PM IST

IPL has done the right thing. Let it be a humiliation for pakistani players. Let them learn a lesson out of it. India should not entertain any sportsman from pakistan as long as that country is busy exporting terroists into India. I hope India continues to stand firm in this. Enough of soft approach towards this rogue country.

Australia will have to face the same fate if racial discrimination continues unabated.

 

Khan firdis says:

January 21,2010 at 03:46 PM IST

why every body (media) cry on this matter? why ur giving too much importance to this subject? all forgot about 26/11? see ysterday, they burn effigy of lalit Modi. very good all team. keep it up!!!!!!!!

 

Ashish says:

January 21,2010 at 03:46 PM IST

IPL is a business all franchisees are businessman and they invest thiere money when the see profitability it is own choice of franchisees.

 

Shadab Mustejabuddin says:

January 21,2010 at 03:47 PM IST

Well!! As an Indian and a responsible nation first of all we have to decide whether we want to generate friendly vibes from our action or do we want to act irresponsibly like other countries and encourage conflict. The problem is not the players safety, healthy competition OR Hotel security but the compelling emotion of hatred gushing in our blood for eachother. The wally action shown by IPL might reap profit oriented results for Enterprenuer but as a Nation and our relationship with neighbouring countries its a deal of loss and insecurity. The quality of being patient is bearing of provocation and annoyance without complaint. Our past experience might have developed impatience in majority of the mass but this is the Era to strive and struggle to acheive PEACE for progress and development which one can never acheive alone!!! JAI HIND....

(Reply to Shadab Mustejabuddin)- Abhishek says:

January 21,2010 at 05:40 PM IST

How can we possibly act more irresponsibly? Do you feel successive Government inaction over terrorist acts over the past decade or so constitutes irresponsible behaviour then I could not agree with you more. Simply put, after everything Pakistan has done, and said, they deserve to be eradicated. Any sensible person with a love for his/her country would feel the same way. Your statement reminds me of Barkha Dutt from NDTV after the Mumbai attacks. She comes out on her stupid show, 'We the People', and basically says, 'We do not want to be a nation of warmongers'. She basically said this as if the Mumbai attacks were the first attacks by Pakistani mujahideens on Indian citizens in India. After everything we have been through, War is the ONLY answer with Pakistan. To not go to war is irresponsible. Pakistan should be eradicated. Excluding them from the IPL is a welcome move and a positive step in this direction.

(Reply to Abhishek )- Shadab Mustejabuddin says:

January 22,2010 at 05:15 PM IST

Thanfully our Nation still got loyal and Patient servants like Barkha and Me and manymore who have got the mind and vision to sense the devastating impact of war. 'Abhi' you must have read my point where I have emphasized the impatience Mass in both the countries; who thinks WAR is the solution, whereas WAR will be the beginning of downfall both for INDIA and PAKISTAN; both are equally equipped with weapons of Mass destruction - I see a post WAR country whose actions are prompted and controlled by another country. Now don't get me wrong I am not talking about Pakistan controlling us but those countries who desperately wants to rid the stablizing attributes of South East Asia and drag the region to economic destabilization. Do you know anything about International Politics ? Advancement of Stronger nation to central ASIA and their ambition to control south east Asia and rest of the world ? Well I think the seed of hatred sown with the help of terrorism is yielding offspring expectedly better than expected in a form of young mind like yours which want to take Vengeance. 'Vengeance leads to destruction loss of life and love' - Don't forget Patience is also a form of Action....Hope I have answered your question...JAI HIND!

(Reply to Shadab Mustejabuddin)- Nitin says:

January 27,2010 at 06:47 PM IST

Why are we talking of war ? The point here is IPL are a franchises with their own agenda in mind. Secondly, every time India has extended a hand of friendship its hand has been slapped away. India has even recevied a few slaps on its face like Kargil and 26/11, like the great Mahatma taught us , we showed the other cheek. However, we have come to the period in time when this 'turning the other cheek' could play against us. India could start becoming an unstable country , all the foreign investors could decide to leave due to its unsecure atmosphere. Thus it is time one stop's showing the other cheek, you do not pick up the gun, but you start 'boycotting all things and people from Pakistan. Hopefully, they will get the message and start clearing their backyard themselves. India is not Pakistan's keeper to go out and mop up their excesses and clean up the country for them. War should always be the last resort but it certainly is a resort. If Ghandhi had tried his disobedience movement with Nazi's and Hitler , he would have probably ended up gassed in one of the concentration camps.

(Reply to Shadab Mustejabuddin)- Prab says:

January 29,2010 at 04:47 AM IST

Preaching peace to someone who is a new student and has a hope of understandstanding what peace is makes sense, But Preaching peace to terrorists doesn't help as they understand only fists and middle finger and the language of bombs. We have lost our patience and its time for fists and bombs. Kill them all and we will have peace in South Asia. I know you sympathize with your muslim friends in Pak and if you really feel the pain then you can please please please go to pak and be one of them.

 

Krishna says:

January 21,2010 at 03:51 PM IST

IPL is perfectly right in banishing Pakistan from sports. India should not entertain that rogue country in any manner and not do any kind of business with that stupid terrorist exporter country. I support IPL in banishing that terrorist rascal Islamic Pakistan.

(Reply to Krishna)- Annonymous_asian says:

January 22,2010 at 01:17 AM IST

Funny u bringing religion in to sports now

(Reply to Annonymous_asian)- Vijay says:

January 22,2010 at 04:56 PM IST

Why is Yousuf Youhana ,. the long bearded "Mohammad Yousuf" , you answer that first

 

Rahul says:

January 21,2010 at 03:51 PM IST

the decision made by the franchisee be it their own or under the government intervention is the best decision under current circumstances, one is the franchisee are safe, say another attack in any part of the country during the tournament woul send jitters to everybody part of the tournament and the other reason i guess it is quite a moral issue for us as Indians to invite and accept them given what happened in mumbai

 

pingo says:

January 21,2010 at 03:51 PM IST

strange but understandable... nobody wants the T 20 champions amongst them as it will undermine the others... pity for cricket

 

kartik says:

January 21,2010 at 03:52 PM IST

IPL has done the right thing. Let it be a humiliation for pakistani players. Let them learn a lesson out of it. India should not entertain any sportsman from pakistan as long as that country is busy exporting terroists into India. I hope India continues to stand firm in this. Enough of soft approach towards this rogue country.

Australia will have to face the same fate if racial discrimination continues unabated.

 

dakshath says:

January 21,2010 at 04:00 PM IST

well....by the way pakistan cricketers are reacting loooks more like they are irritated at the fact of missing money making oppurtunity.....i agree with the article here but i feel pakistan has to realise 1. ipl is a domestic tournament 2.the franchisees are run based on business propositions and the element of risk involved by taking them is trmendous, a fact even they would know clearly

 

Vikas says:

January 21,2010 at 04:01 PM IST

Well I think that not having Pak players in IPL-III
will not make much of a difference.True that they are the world T-20 current champions but IPL is a different scenario whole-together, plus not having 1-2 pak player in a team will give space to other new international talent.So people will not be short of entertainment,Investors will not be short of players,organisers will be 'short of' tension regarding security.. What else does one wants from IPL??? So Pak players --> we dont care...

 

Pervaiz Masih says:

January 21,2010 at 04:03 PM IST

Indian Govt is surely behind this drama and are part of the game to insult the Pakistani players. India claim to be a regional power and a big country, but sorry to say that they have not come out of the low mentality and probably it will take them an other one thousand years to compete with Europe as far as the moral values are concerned

Lahore

(Reply to Pervaiz Masih)- j says:

January 22,2010 at 03:18 PM IST

Yes Indian Govt is behind this drama and insulted the Pakistani players.

And now you will try to avenge this by coming to India as a terrorist.
These are your morals. You GREAT PAKISTANIS?????

(Reply to Pervaiz Masih)- Rahul Krishna says:

January 21,2010 at 04:16 PM IST

It is amusing that u talk of morality when your country runs the biggest terrorist unit in the world, thanks for your comments

(Reply to Pervaiz Masih)- Peter says:

January 21,2010 at 04:36 PM IST

If the Indian Govt is indeed behind this drama than all Indians are proud of their Govt and maybe you can be proud of your Govt EXPORTING TERRORISTS.
We don't need any lessons in mentality or moral values from Pakistan. We are happy with our Indian mentality and our rich moral values - thank you but no, we don't want to stoop to low European or Amercian moral values.

(Reply to Pervaiz Masih)- Dr. Madhu Chandra Guru says:

January 21,2010 at 04:59 PM IST

Oh Masih, You are talking about moral values being respected in europe. Excuse me, I am an Indian staying in Europe. I think you are not that long sighted to judge the situation in europe from lahore. I know the situation here. And you are telling about 1000 years for India to compete against europe? Then, why do you think europeans tried to impose growth restrictions in the name of global climate change especially on china and india in Copenhagen climate conference? Its better to think what ever you speak rather speak whatever you think.

(Reply to Pervaiz Masih)- kirit pandya says:

January 21,2010 at 05:03 PM IST

Mr. masih, we are absolutely a world power whether you like it or not, and we are not idiots to jsut sleep over what happened here on 26/11/09. Unless your very high mentality ignored that fact that 9 pakistanis carried our calculative attackes agaisnt Indians in Mumbai. I am rather amused by moral claim, and would like to add if Indian is thousand years away, pakistan will never make it as far as moral values are concerned. Please go stand in your backyard and observe the Talibanization of your country, and then talk morality you fool.

(Reply to Pervaiz Masih)- Shakir al Loser says:

January 22,2010 at 05:31 PM IST

A paki trying to teach us morals. LOL!
Go back to your inbreeding family and beat your wife. The fact is pakistanis are universally hated, from America TO India, because their morals are a bit distorted. Some say these so called morals came from their arab masters. In any case, the epitome of perfect creation for a pakistani is that taliban chief with one eye. He had some morals.

(Reply to Pervaiz Masih)- Kaly says:

January 22,2010 at 06:32 PM IST

Low mentality?....you have roughed us for the last 60 years and donot talk big...
We donot need certificate from u....

(Reply to Pervaiz Masih)- sucheta says:

January 22,2010 at 09:12 PM IST

Excuse me you pakistani, you don't have any legitimate right to talk about morality because you as a nation lives only on breeding and exporting terrorist, so beggers can't raise their voice, you will persih within this decade itself, mark my word...

(Reply to Pervaiz Masih)- Prab says:

January 29,2010 at 04:51 AM IST

Hey be careful the taliban might blow up the cafe you are sitting in and preaching peace. first show us that you can clean up the mess in pak and then come here and preach us.

 

mani says:

January 21,2010 at 04:08 PM IST

I am so excited about this snubbing deal !! Hey Indian politicians, did you see what a small poke in the belly can do to pakistan? So don't talk about peace process and what not in future - heck with it. Just talk business and give them what they deserve. The pakistan menace is easily manageable.. if only you politicians behave the same way these business owners behaved. our country, and the world will be a better off place without these pakis.

 

Rahul says:

January 21,2010 at 04:14 PM IST

the decision made by the franchisee be it their own or under the government intervention is the best decision under current circumstances, one is the franchisee are safe, say another attack in any part of the country during the tournament woul send jitters to everybody part of the tournament and the other reason i guess it is quite a moral issue for us as Indians to invite and accept them given what happened in mumbai

 

The1_WhoSpeakTruth says:

January 21,2010 at 04:15 PM IST

The BEST decision taken by IPL Owners...

Also commenting about australin players >>> indian politician are coward to take any hard actions against it... ofcourse australins are rasict themself but none of the AUstralian Terrosist come to india and killed indians like NAPAK KASAB and his napak team .. Australia DID NOT harbor dawood or other napak terrosists... but i do strongly believe Indian Government MUST do something to send message to australian government to prevent RACIAL attacks..

Pakistan IS A FAILED DOOMED NATION !!!! LOOK AT ITS LEADER >> MR 10 % / BHUTO AND NAVAZ SHERIFF WHO IS LIKE MR 50 %....

And to those " WASHED BRAINS INDIANs" who believe that by incliding paki players, relation between india and pak will be improving and napak Pak will stop harboring terrorist , U MUST BE DAY DREAMING >>> see what happen how many times Vajpayee had tried.. samjota express.. all those talks what we got >>> KARGIL ... so many attacks in mumbai incl latest 26/11... have u heard the Saying " Kutte Ki puchh kabhi sidhi nahi hoti !!!! " being a Kashmirian I rather be joing India then Failed Doomed nation called Napak pakistan... matter of fact pakistan is nothing but new afghanistan >>> safe heaven for Taliban and terrorist.. everyone knows where bin laden is.. everyone knows where dawood ibrahim is and everyone knows where memon family members is !!! IN Napak pak !!!!!!

 

Kunal says:

January 21,2010 at 04:16 PM IST

Great Job done by our IPL franchise.
Tit for Tat.

 

DIpak Joshi says:

January 21,2010 at 04:17 PM IST

We are missing an Important issue which we should target. When just a mere exemption of Pakistani players causes such a hue and cry in Pakistan. Their Minister says we will reply "EET ka JAWAB PATTHAR SE DENGE", They cancel their ministers trip to India, then when we are attacked by 10 of thier terrorist, Give all the Proof and they still tell us to keep on talking with them.

Our media should highlight these points, instead of taking sides with Pakistani Players.

 

Tauseef says:

January 21,2010 at 04:17 PM IST

Don`t we remember that IPL organisers prefer game to country otherwise they would not have gone to South Africa!
Inclusion or omission of players is not a depiction of patriotism but power of money which attracted capitalists to forge an event of enormous wealth,else they would not have bought Aussies.

 

padman says:

January 21,2010 at 04:27 PM IST

TOI media is working against india. i just wonder why they are so worried for pak not playing for IPL3. it is good riddance and majority people wishes.

 

Sreenivasan E.C. says:

January 21,2010 at 04:30 PM IST

Without Afridi with whom the others will compete in this game? I am very sad. Also the franchisees and their players and the game all are more at risk by effectively banning Pakistani players from the tournament. The fanatic Pakistanis have now got a reason to target the tournament. How IPL will arrange the security?

 

Dinesh says:

January 21,2010 at 04:38 PM IST

A big stroke on PAK's mentality for taking India on granted. Why NAVJOT SIDDHU feels bad? How much was he critical on 26/11? Ignoring PAK by IPL is a good lesson for PAK & its moles that India is in no mood for entertaining them. Indian Govt does not have to give Sugar Coated Answer on PAK's Idiotic Questions on IPL.

 

purush mehta says:

January 21,2010 at 04:48 PM IST

I feel it is the right thing in ignoring the pakistani players. Why should we even invite them to play in India, when the pakistani govt. is supporting terrorist elements to act against our citizens and our country. Indian Premier League is about India, Indians and Countires who wish well for India. To Mr. Shahid Afridi, who raised a hue and cry over this matter, please go and visit the Taj palace Hotel and feel what hundred of Indians felt on 26-11-2009, who were terroizsed by citizens of pakistan. I do not beleive Mr. Afridi or other team members give a second thought of the terrosit attacks, because they didnt lose a parent, son, daughter, friend on 26/11/2009. If I were him, I would not even think of playing in india, let alone cry about no being selected. I commend the IPL selectors for keeping the Pakistani cricketers out of the series, it is the pulse of the nation. Politicians in India have taken the citizens for granted. While this timid and ineffective Government are waiting for an "appropriate" response from the pakistanis, they have proved that India is a nation of weak and corrupt money mongers, and any one can create mayhem in any part of the world and get away with it.

 

Dhruv says:

January 21,2010 at 04:49 PM IST

It's a shame Pakistani players were not drafted in IPL this year - politics and business have once again triumphed over people and cricket....the Indian cricket mafia of Lalit Modi, IPL owners, and the BCCI has once again managed to save a few bucks (on security etc.) and pass on the chance to promote better relations between the PEOPLE (not govt) of pakistan and india. BTW this IPL decision played into the hands of the paki govt & army already reeling under pressure - remember nothing like drawing negative attention towards anything Indian from their standpoint. I just wish at least one of the IPL owners had the guts to take a chance on a shahid afridi or umar gul....cricket lovers around the word will be deprived.

(Reply to Dhruv )- Rafiq says:

January 21,2010 at 05:52 PM IST

I am a cricket lover and I do not feel in any way deprived. I and my family are rejoicing at this decision and turn of events. Hopefully Pakistan and its citizens will get attacked by the friendly Taliban and their mujahideen warriors. Any true Indian will be rejoicing at the Pakistanis frothing at their mouths. Hopefully they will really see what Indians think of them. Having said all this. Umar Gul, Shahid Afridi and all are welcome to join the Taliban Premier League. Recruitment is in full swing and has been continuing all year around. Drop the Bats and Pick up the Bomb.

(Reply to Rafiq )- Sanju says:

January 22,2010 at 03:48 AM IST

I loved the idea of Taliban Premier League ;). Pakis can never be beaten in this League.

 

RAJU says:

January 21,2010 at 04:50 PM IST

I APPRECIATE THE DICISION TAKEN BY THE ORGANISER. WHY WE SHOULD INVEST OUR MONEY ON THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTHAN? THEY ARE NOT CO-OPERATIVE WITH US.CREATING SO MUCH PROBLEM IN INDIA. IT IS WORTH TO CHOOSE THE PLAYERS FROM OTHER PART OF WORLD.

 

N says:

January 21,2010 at 04:51 PM IST

ANOTHER PAKI SUPPORTER IN THE NAME OF RAJESH KALRA

SUGAR COATING THE SAME WORDS WHICH OUR EARLIER DISGRACED AVIJIT GHOSH HAS SAID.

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January 21,2010 at 06:16 PM IST

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January 21,2010 at 09:24 PM IST

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January 22,2010 at 05:43 PM IST

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Dhruv says:

January 21,2010 at 04:54 PM IST

It's a shame Pakistani players were not drafted in IPL this year - politics and business have once again triumphed over people and cricket....the Indian cricket mafia of Lalit Modi, IPL owners, and the BCCI has once again managed to save a few bucks (on security etc.) and pass on the chance to promote better relations between the PEOPLE (not govt) of pakistan and india. BTW this IPL decision played into the hands of the paki govt & army already reeling under pressure - remember nothing like drawing negative attention towards anything Indian from their standpoint. I just wish at least one of the IPL owners had the guts to take a chance on a shahid afridi or umar gul....cricket lovers around the word will be deprived.

 

Rakesh says:

January 21,2010 at 04:54 PM IST

Great job done by true Indian who avoid all who threat to India

 

halcyon says:

January 21,2010 at 04:55 PM IST

i don't think the IPL franchisees have done anything wrong in shunning the pakistani players.after investing alot of money in their teams obviously the IPL team owners will opt for safer options.although the pakistani players have great calibre but their presence in all the matches is unpredictable.moreover there could be political pressure also.So i guess it's better to play safe.

 

Rajiv83 says:

January 21,2010 at 04:58 PM IST

I always believed that Pakistani's were better diplomats then our's , but the reason never came to me as to why we always fail on the democratic front. Now, i somehow seem to understand that it's oue (Indian) broadminded attitude which always understands the problems across the border but overshadows its own concerns.What does Pakistan talent has to do with indian premier league player selection and how does it effects the two countries tie is veruy difficault to fathom that too when innocent people are being killed regularly in parts of country from PAKISTAN supported terrorism.Is it so that by buying few Pakistan player in IPL will ensure the peace process and there won't be any bomb blasts further to that?But thanks to our elite group and Media they have proved it to be true. We have been made a laughing stock by our own media.And what does franchise owners have to do with it is completely ridiculous, as its their team and it is up to them to decide whom to by and whom not to.we are no one to force any one that they should buy Pakistani players since we feel that it will enhance the peace process.Government of India has nothing to do with it, GOI cannot dictate terms and suggestions to IPL franchise owners as it doesn't fall into their territory.So stop making such factitious and credulous statements that goverment of india prompted such kind of action.

(Reply to Rajiv83)- Gilliana of Oz says:

January 21,2010 at 07:45 PM IST

The Indian government will have nothing to do with the IPL but it will take the taxes. As the IPL is registered with the BCCI and hence the ICC, it is imperative that all players from the member countries that avail themselves for the bidding must be given the chance to sell themselves. Then it is up to the IPL to choose or ignore. The Ministry of Sports in India must demand for security for all players that play in the tourny if the tourny is to go ahead or failing so it should not be allowes to proceed. Politics must be left out of the game. The Pakistani people are not responsible for 26/11 and in fact they are running away from their government and military for they now realise that as long as this political and military structure remains in Pakistan there will never be peace in their country. As a retired socialist I have travelled Pakistan far and wide and this is the feeling of the masses. The present killing of the Taliban by Pakistani troops is not for Pakistani security but for American money and aid. Never equate the Pakistani government and military with the Pakistani people. They are all seperate identities. Because of the common heritage all Indians must understand the plight and suffering of the ordinary people of Pakistan as they are beyond despair. Cricket is only a game and all Pakistanis playing the game love to play in India and infact enjoy the hospitality given to them in India. So please dont generalise as the players are common people just earning a living. To deprive one from earning his bread is unforgivable. India as the Mother country must learn to forgive.

(Reply to Gilliana of Oz)- Varun Shekhar says:

January 23,2010 at 01:55 AM IST

Don't lecture Indians about the issue, Gilliana of OZ. Or at least wait until Australia suffers an 11/26 like attack on its soil. Then see the reaction. What incidentally, is the big deal about Pakistani players not being selected?

 

Subbaiah says:

January 21,2010 at 04:59 PM IST

to Mr Sreenivasan:
I'm sure there are many players who are much much better than someone who fires once in a blue moon. As far as the security concerns..India is capable of handling this kind of risk and we the common people should concentrate on enjoying the cricket.

 

padman says:

January 21,2010 at 04:59 PM IST

TOI media is working against india. i just wonder why they are so worried for pak not playing for IPL3. it is good riddance and majority people wishes.

(Reply to padman)- ah says:

January 29,2010 at 04:55 AM IST

timesofindiabash.blogspot.com

 

Naveen Narayanan says:

January 21,2010 at 05:00 PM IST

Pakistan has a lot of good players and they are not behind exporting terrorism to India.They are ambassadors of cricket.So many of them deserve to play in IPL which is good for IPL as a whole ...I think

 

Shridhar Karkera says:

January 21,2010 at 05:00 PM IST

Mr. Ejaz Butt and Javed Miandad should mind their own business and never interfere in IPL`s decisions; and its better they stop barking like a dog everytime India make a decision on circket related matters. No one cares who the hell is Javed Miandad. Let him speak about Pakistan`s cricket, he has got no right to speak a word on Indian cricketers and their performances

 

Gilliana of Oz says:

January 21,2010 at 05:02 PM IST

It was not long ago that the Indian government demanded of the Australian government the right to protection of its Indians citizens in my country. India had every right to do so. But it now seems that your government is not prepared to offer the same to the foreign IPL cricket participants which includes the Pakistanis. I am positively sure the Pakistanis were not invited because of the security issue. The IPL offers megabucks to its players which they find affordable. In such a case it is the responsibility of Lalit Modi and the franchisees to pay for the security of the Pakistani players and the Indian has the right to demand it from the franchicisees, if not it should provide the protection themselves as itwill enjoy huge tax benefits from TV, the franchisees and from the game itself. How can a government eschew from its responsibilities? In that case the Ministry of sports must demand that the tournament must provide security or cancel the tournament altogether.
You must agree that since the tourny is registered with the BCCI and hence the ICC, it is the duty of the ICC to demand of the IPL that all players and teams of member nations must be invited or the tournament will not be recognized. The omission of the Pakistanis is shameful as it is prejudiced. If one is to dig deep into this sad state of affairs many incriminating questions arises. Have the IPL franchises been asked by the communalists of Maharashtra and Gujrat to toe the line or else or had the franchisees connived in a concerted manner to payback for the 26/11 killings for which the Pakistani people are not responsible. It is very sad that this has happened in the country that I have always loved and admired for its tolerance and goodwill to others. It is also sad that whatever goodwill that was between the two nations has been lost forever. I can only hope for a miracle to happen.

(Reply to Gilliana of Oz)- Anvi says:

January 21,2010 at 09:19 PM IST

Hey Gilliana, leave our matters to us. If we need your advise we'll defi ask you. U stay in Oz, u only believe whatever little u read abt our nation in your newspapers. We know what is in the best interest of us more than anyone else. whatever info you have written seems straight from some newspapers, unfortunately you dont know the ground reality hence stay out of this. Do we tell u what ur govt. or ACB shld do in matters pertaining to cricket or elsewise?

(Reply to Anvi)- Gilliana of Oz says:

January 22,2010 at 04:29 AM IST

The IPL is an international tournament and so is the game. If cricketers of my country participate in the tournament and so with others, it is mine and everybody's business. The IPL must not be allowed to proceed by the ICC if the tourny has become a closed shop viz. invitations given to those that suit the franchisees interests. Bringing politics into the game is putting the game into disrepute. This is an offence according to the rules of the ICC. The BCCI is using its monetary clout nodoubt and their business is anything but cricket. Exhibiting your beligerent attitude does not solve the problem. There is a larger world outside your country and cricket. You just have to have the fortitude to go outside to see it. Cricket is everybody's game including mine. Ofcourse it is mine and everybody's business. Get a life. Don't ever tell me about my knowledge of the politics of your country or for that matter any other. I presume that you are educated enough to know that with the internet and through cyberspace I and the world indeed, have India in our homes. Just have a good day.

(Reply to Gilliana of Oz)- Sarthak says:

January 22,2010 at 09:44 AM IST

Hey Gilliana, we Indians are educated enough to understand and act upon our social and political issues. I would suggest you to go back home and teach your imbecile local Aussie goons something about globalization. The way you people have been going about killing Indians residing in Australia shows how much you really care. You do not have any right to comment on what's been happening around in our country until you rectify things happening in your own backyard.

(Reply to Gilliana of Oz)- Gilliana says:

January 22,2010 at 06:32 PM IST

SARTHAK. TO KICK A COUNTRY WHEN IT IS ON ITS KNEES IS NOTHING SHORT OF COWARDICE.

(Reply to Gilliana of Oz)- Varun Shekhar says:

January 23,2010 at 01:50 AM IST

Gilliana, nobody picked the Pakistani players, so what? They were not obligated to choose them. And stop lecturing India and Indians about politics and sports. Australia hasn't suffered any terrorism on it soil as yet, whereas India has experienced more than any other democracy on earth.

(Reply to Gilliana of Oz)- Pra says:

January 29,2010 at 05:03 AM IST

Hey guys look gillana is begging money for terrorists under the pretext of rules and regulations. how much money did you send to terrorists to kill indians. now beggars are demanding money under the veil of ICC rules. if we don't give them money they might say Pak can't assure that attacks won't happen in india during IPL. only way to silence these guys is to cross the border and silence them.

 

jitesh kumar says:

January 21,2010 at 05:05 PM IST

On one hand Pakistani terrorists attack India and on the other hand their cricketers want to play in India.they not wants to give any terrorist and also not wants to stop spread terror atack.not only this if we allows then ,as we all know the player will earn so much huge indian money and pay the taxes to there gov.and again ther govt and isi will spoonser terror atack on us bec of our money only.you can find out one more think pakistan craying intesly but not a single time saying that they not stop terrorism.means doubled standard.Well I don't see a reason why I should allow these guys to play in India. First let the Pakistani government hand over the terrorists who were involved in the attack, then we can talk about cricket. India should severe all ties with Pakistan. All talk of friendship and brotherhood hasn't worked and I believe in the Isreal model which is cut of the ties.. build 15 feet tall wall all along the border and cut off the ties. Enough is Enough...wake up India wake up.

 

N.Ramanathan says:

January 21,2010 at 05:06 PM IST

This is the right thing done. Pakistan must be isolated in all the subcontinent happenings and they have to regret for the "Mush formula" of playing Cricket and also put a bomb. Now don't play cricket either official or unofficial still that country stops exporting terrorism.

 

INDIAN_FIRST says:

January 21,2010 at 05:16 PM IST

Even after continous attacks on India by these people. Even after trying to pull down India's image in every world forum. These people of Pakistan expect Indian's to welcome them with open arms and let them earn money in our land. not only in cricket. All the people who come to India from Pakistan to earn money from films, music, sports, concerts, reality shows... should not be allowed to come here , earn money in lakhs and then go back and sponsor the terrorists to attack innocent Indian People...
What is happening in IPL ..should also inspire the Bollywood Producers, Directors, Music Directors, etc.... This is the correct attitude to show these people.

 

ron says:

January 21,2010 at 05:33 PM IST

Well amidst all this hype of Paki being world champion, does anyone care to think who would really be interested in them even if allowed to play ? Which of the teams ll like to hav afridi in the squad - Sachin, Dhoni, Yuvraj, Kumble, Sehwag & Gilli wont bid for ne pakistani except tanvir & Gul...who wud want an overrated, outspoken indisciplined player like Afridi in the team ? The only likely buyer for Afridi ll be Kolkatta, where SRK ll use afridi for promoting his movies in Pakistan...PLus wat about the silent devastating baggage that comes with every paki player - prone to matchfixing...thse cricketers dance in dawood's duaghter marriage & hav extremely cordial relns with dawood..aren't they most vulnerable to match fixing ? Seems no one is interested in looking at the mirror.

 

Bhupesh says:

January 21,2010 at 05:37 PM IST

India and for that matter people of India have already done lot of favors to Pakistani, by considering them a younger brother, by helping them even in their crisis. Franchisee like Shahrukh Khan has already involved Wasim Akram (Let me remind you, very he will be Indian National). People from Pakistan does come here and get free treatment from reputed Hospitals and same hospital doesn't allow indian nationals to be get treated if fees is less by few thousand rupees. It has gone away from topic, but stop doing hippocratic favors to Pakistani. What franchisee has done is excellent job to run their IPL business.
-BhUpEsH

 

Vasudev says:

January 21,2010 at 05:43 PM IST

Businessmen have done correct. I would say India should avoid playing with Pakistan in any international event. when you a few boys of PAK blasting our people why should we play with other boys of PAK.

 

Arun says:

January 21,2010 at 05:44 PM IST

I don't think I agree completely with the issue highlighted by Mr. Kalra. I don't have an opinion on the issue as such. But from what you have said, it makes more sense to actually include the Pakistani players in the team because that will reduce the risk of attacks on the teams, audience and the stadiums. After all, a Pakistani would not attack a fellow Pakistani, at least in India.

 

Dr Ravi Palur says:

January 21,2010 at 05:59 PM IST

The subcontinent's cyberspace is awash with comments regarding the non-inclusion of Pakistani cricketers in the IPL3. Rajesh,I disagree with your view that including Pakistani players is a risk for "the franchisee’s reputation, even for the safety of players from all over the world, on the ground, in the hotel where they stay and while they travel". Now,that the IPL3 will not have any Pakistani players,can anyone guarantee that the event would be without the risk of a terror attack?Nothing is sacred to the terrorists.They will attack wherever and whenever thay stand to make ground(which mostly is without any reason for people like us).Terrorists attacked the Sri Lankan team in Pakistan with the dead all being Pakistanis.During the 26/11 attacks too,there were a lot of Muslims who died in Mumbai.So,thinking that the risks of a terror attack anywhere in India or on any team taking part in the IPL would be less without Pakistani players does not stand any ground.After two rounds of the IPL,I am of the belief that the IPL does not breed excellence in cricketing matters;its only aim is to conduct a grand show or tamasha.It is like a typical Bollywood extravaganza-superficial gloss with little substance!If IPL really was meant to promote excellence,India would not have had a miserable time at the recent World T20 championship.None of the IPL franchisee teams also made any impact in the Champions league. All that the IPL does is to bloat the ego of the players and the franchisee owners without any tangible results on the ground.By the same reasoning,if the IPL franchisees do not make any money out of these cricket matches this time around,many of them might have second thoughts about being involved in IPL4!Lastly,if I were a pakistani,I would consider the non-inclusion of their players a blessing.They are likely to come out roaring in the World T20 championship to be held in West Indies.Do not be surprised if they lift the Cup once again!

 

Rajdeep chatterjee says:

January 21,2010 at 06:00 PM IST

Totally agree with what you have written...1st it is the right of the franchisee...no matter how orchastrated it may look...2nd it is good to stay away from pakistan and more importantly keep them away from Indian soil...nothing against the players...we all loove watching them...but if they come from a country which in an organised manner has targetted India for decades it is somewhere we must draw the line....

on another note not sure objectives of the 'aman ke asha' initiative...for teh following reasons
1. the common man is going to read the pieces in the news paper...but it is not the common man who perpetrates violence...so who are we trying to convince thru these pieces
2. peaceful/warlike approach - these decisions are taken by head(s) of state...pakistan today does not have any such person/body - the army is on its own, the ISI is its own master, the political body is a mockery...the resurgent taliban - who are we trying to influence thru these pieces in the newspaper

3. instead of 'bhaichara' would it not be better to coach/guide indians to help make our country a better and more civil place to live in (as it is in developed economies...also reckon it would be a good idea to teach/make aware indians of what to do when a terrorist strike happens...at least a few of them might die fighting back (the right to defend your land cant be restricted only to the armed forces)rather then dying as bystander casualty they way they do today...

strong thoughts and feelings...but then because of pakistan young Indian soldiers and civilians are getting killed...maybe we need to be more conscious of being aware and prepared rathern than sweat too much on not having pakistani players in this years IPL...

 

indian says:

January 21,2010 at 06:01 PM IST

we all stupid countrymen of the few congested cities of impoverished,illitrate BHARAT are feeling PROUD. for what ?? that the few rich oligarchs of india didnt choose few pakistani players in their franchise .. we are dying of hunger and cold in north , beaten in bombay by marathis yet cry patriotism against pakistani and Australian players . pathetic !!! pathetic !!

 

ianaustin says:

January 21,2010 at 06:14 PM IST

there is only one winner in all of this not ipl, indian or pakistan goverment, but the terrorists have won again. By ignoring pakistani players the ipl has given what the terrorists what they wanted, well done.

 

Rajendra Sathe says:

January 21,2010 at 06:16 PM IST

This is a completely business call and got no connect with any national issue. Media and pak players are unnecessarily blowing this issue. We would certainly love to watch pak players on ground but not at entire IPL or other player's safety cost. Franchisees have taken correct decision and showed a good example of their union

 

Ram Bachan says:

January 21,2010 at 06:17 PM IST

Australians are doing what we deserve, and we are licking there b---s by hiring there players. it shows still after 50 years shadow of slavery on our minds.
Dual standards, Fact is we are Mixing Polictics & Sports. All Planned First we invited them and than abolished them. truth is nobody wants the T 20 champions amongst them as it will undermine the others.

(Reply to Ram Bachan)- Nitin says:

January 22,2010 at 03:21 PM IST

Rasicism is present in every country, even in India, thus in Australia. However, training camps for terrorists are present only in Pakistan and these terrorists are trained to cause mayhem in India. The lives of Indians dying for no reason is not cheap. Normally all diplomatic and socialm ties with this country should have been snapped. However, India does not have the guts to do that, thus the people of India prefer not to have the paki players coming to India to earning money on the bodies of the dead Indian citizens and soldiers.

 

BARUNESH CHANDRA says:

January 21,2010 at 06:20 PM IST

You totally miss the point... don't you?? wot mood are you talking about... music concerts of artists from ind-pak are being held to packed houses across the country... there has been nothing untoward reported...in any event the nation's mood was not galvanised one fine morning when the auctions were to be held... The least the pakistani players deserved was to be told in advance that they cannot be accomodated rather than having them ready and dumping them at the last moment.... in this battle of attrition, we stoop to their level and even below at times... we are the bigger fish, the bigger brand and we should learn to behave like one...but the powers that be always ensure that we are made to appear lke thugs... damn you!!

 

Mohan Singh Gill says:

January 21,2010 at 06:22 PM IST

What derailment of peace process the pakis are talking about? Will someone tell those liars to clean their own act first.

And to my people....
MARK MY WORDS PEOPLE SO LONG PAK EXISTS ON THE PLANET THERE CAN NEVER BE PEACE IN THIS REGION IN GENERAL AND BETWEEN INDIA - PAK IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE PAKI RULERS HAVE SINCE SEPARATING FROM INDIA... ONLY 1-POING AGENDA THAT IS "HATE INDIA - HARM INDIA" AND THEY HAVE POISENED THE MINDS OF ORDINARY PAKIS SO MUCH THAT THEY SING THE SAME TUNES AT THE SLIGHTEST OPPORTUNITY....

To my leaders.... IGNORE PAKIS AT ALL LEVELS BE IT DIPLOMATIC, SPORTS, CULTURAL OR ANY EVENT FOR THAT MATTER.... "Vande Matram"

(Reply to Mohan Singh Gill)- Shab says:

January 21,2010 at 07:33 PM IST

Mr Mohan singh must be drunk. It is the pathetic Indian politicians who are always drumming the beats and spreading hatred against Pakistan to get the votes from the people. Look around and see what kind of relations do you have with all of your neighbours, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal. Idian terrorism is well known inside Paksitan and the other neighboring countries.

(Reply to Shab)- Anvi says:

January 21,2010 at 09:27 PM IST

Shab, in case if you've forgotten this blog is to discuss cricket

(Reply to Anvi)- GIlliana says:

January 22,2010 at 04:42 AM IST

Anvi, you seem to be everywhere, holy spirit.

 

Ravi M says:

January 21,2010 at 06:30 PM IST

Anybody arguing that it is Franchisees' money and 'they' can invest wherever 'they' want, IMHO, is missing the point. Noone can deny that... however, the point is - the Pakistani players shouldn't have been included in the first place.
Are we saying that the franchisees saw the risk of a Shahid Afridi / Shoail Tanvir only at the time of auction while at the time of recommending them they have not realised this? That's nonsense..!

And for the people in the comments section in this blog (and on many other forums in the last 2 days) who think IPL lost its value because Paki players have not been included in the teams - no such 'worries'... IPL will be successful as long as the India public don't get bored of T20... Pakistan included or cribbed.

 

Pakistani says:

January 21,2010 at 07:24 PM IST

As a Pakistani I would say its fine if Modi & Co had informed the Pakistani players earlier that they can't play .. but to make them go through visa and other clearance stuff and then not to pick them in the auction was not the best way of doing things .. moreover, what surprises me is that the players who were included in the auction were those for whom the franchises had shown some initial interest .. what changed the mind of franchises in two weeks?

Also, I would like to say that the comments of some of my Indian friends are full of animosity ..too much hatred is not good for anyone ..don't be fooled by politicians and their tales ... imagine if such comments were there on a Pakistani forum and you as an Indian read them..how would you feel? You wouldn't be happy of course and this would just play into the hands of the hate mongers and politicians ...comments such as the world is better off without Pakistan are simply not on and do nothing but increase the hatred on both sides .. whats the benefit of hatred?

(Reply to Pakistani)- Rupz says:

January 22,2010 at 09:49 AM IST

"Also, I would like to say that the comments of some of my Indian friends are full of animosity ..too much hatred is not good for anyone" --- I would like to ask you only one question. After 26/11 in Mumbai, I have read a blog where a Pakistani guy have commented " What the Indians will do ! They couldn't even handle 6 pakistani soldiers(?) and how the hell they will handle Pakistan. We will destroy India." Now tell me or rather us, what do you expect us to do ? So, before teaching us, go and teach your own countryman that too much of hatred is not good for anyone. Its pakistan who has always hated india and I think you know it better than anyone.

(Reply to Pakistani)- SPS says:

January 22,2010 at 10:00 AM IST

I agree with you. Hatred is of no use to humanity. I also agree that if the palyers were not going to be selected then they should not have been invited as well. But in India, we are just to pissed off after repeated attacks from Pak against us.

(Reply to Pakistani)- Dr Ravi Palur says:

January 22,2010 at 06:39 AM IST

Reply to Pakistani. There are atleast some sober voices in this blog. It is indeed refreshing to read from my Pakistani friend.His comments are spot on.I too dislike the show of animosity seen on many of the blogs regarding this matter of Pakistani cricketers being not picked up.The least that Lalit Modi could have done was to own up to the slip shod manner that the entire process of player auctions have been consulted.Yes, it is true that the franchisee owners being business persons would look after their interests first.But, why not do it in a frank and transparent manner right from the start?Why include the Pakistani cricketers names on the list when all the franchisee owners have decided not to pick up even a single cricketer?? There is more than that meets the eye.
Let your mind go back to the time when the Indian cricket team visited Pakistan in 2004.They along with the fans from India were treated warmly and with great respect.Please also remember that Kargil and Agra had already occurred.The reason Indians were treated well in Pakistan during those and subsequent visits were because of the contact with ordinary Pakistani citizens.Hence,let us not get carried away with these winds of animosity that are blowing nowadays.It will do no good for the Aam Aaadmi in India.I believe that until the common citizens of both India and Pakistan force our respective politicians that peace is the only alternative for a more fulfilling future, the sword of Damocles will continue to hang on all our heads. Alas, that day has not dawned as of yet!

(Reply to Dr Ravi Palur)- Aam Pakistani says:

January 22,2010 at 08:05 PM IST

Thanks Ravi for your very rational comments. I am a pakistani and trust me we all family members were very sad on 26/11 attack as I have many friends living in Mumbai. My wife was crying and we we were calling to our friends like crazy to know their well being.Modi and company did some thing which they could have done in a nice way, without creating current bad feeling I am really surpsried to seet the hatred of our indian brothers. Let me tell you my friends that an ordinary pakistani respect indians.Please ask some of your sikh brothers how they are treated by pakistani peoples when they go for their yatras in Pakistan. The terrorist killed 175 people in India on 26/11 but they killed more than 3000 pakistani in 2009. So lets not mix terrorist with Aam pakistani or crickter. It will be unfair.

 

shab says:

January 21,2010 at 07:27 PM IST

If Pakistani players were so bad for the so called brand name then why the hell did they push them to apply? It's a typical Indian back stabbing.

(Reply to shab)- j says:

January 22,2010 at 04:09 PM IST

Darling, at least its not fatal. Think!!!

 

ram says:

January 21,2010 at 07:28 PM IST

its business, why make so much of noise about it, you can not force any body to hire you, its their money u like it watch it if not don't, but don't attach nationality to it, say straight away i am frustrated i wanted to make money now i don't have that chance

 

angshu says:

January 21,2010 at 07:31 PM IST

The point is not about if something is right or wrong. Things could have been handled in a better way. Mr. Rajesh Kalra, do you get paid for writing such posts? Or are you giving TOI a free service? Just curious.
If it was a security issue, these businessmen should have reported their concern earlier to the BCCI and Indian government. Why humiliate Pakistani players?

Anyways, Pakistan and their cricket lovers will realize it is good for them that they have been ignored - IPL is highly over-rated.

 

sriram says:

January 21,2010 at 07:41 PM IST

It is a purely a business decision. Let us not get too emotional over this.

 

Sriram says:

January 21,2010 at 08:03 PM IST

Not sure if what they did is right or wrong, but it's unfortunate that this is happening. Politics in sports is simply too sad.

 

Pradeep says:

January 21,2010 at 08:43 PM IST

A famous person once said.. "Nothing Personal, its pure Business".

 

Cricket lover says:

January 21,2010 at 08:46 PM IST

IPL is indian franchise and Owners have invested lot of money. This is full and full their interest whom they should choose. In IPL-II Pak players were not interested to join. Rajasthan royal team suffered lot. why that time media didn't send their condolence to them. First, We should stop blaming on ourselves. The media wants to create more controversies about exclusion of PAK players.
Afridi,Aamir,Umar Gul and Tanvir are all very good player. if they hue and cry then their mentality is clearly saying about their money minded stuff.
In India, entire statium gave the standing Ovation to "Mr.Saeed Anwar" when he made a world record.I am not sure we will get the same from them.
But I am bit surprised about Pakistan govt,about stopped the MP's visiting to India and I worried about India because still they are believing Pakistan will put more effort in peace process. I could remembered a statement which is made by ex P.M Mr. Vajpayee. "We started train services to Pakistan to initiate peace process but they stabbed behind us".
And finally, the terriost said that we could watch lively what is happening at Taj hotel and Railway station using India's media and we were able to put command to our friends whoever involved in that place. Media showed the attack lively to increase their TRP ratings.

 

Cricket lover says:

January 21,2010 at 09:00 PM IST

IPL is indian franchise and Owners have invested lot of money. This is full and full their interest whom they should choose. In IPL-II Pak players were not interested to join. Rajasthan royal team suffered lot. why that time media didn't send their condolence to them. First, We should stop blaming on ourselves. The media wants to create more controversies about exclusion of PAK players.
Afridi,Aamir,Umar Gul and Tanvir are all very good player. if they hue and cry then their mentality is clearly saying about their money minded stuff.
In India, entire statium gave the standing Ovation to "Mr.Saeed Anwar" when he made a world record.I am not sure we will get the same from them.
But I am bit surprised about Pakistan govt,about stopped the MP's visiting to India and I worried about India because still they are believing Pakistan will put more effort in peace process. I could remembered a statement which is made by ex P.M Mr. Vajpayee. "We started train services to Pakistan to initiate peace process but they stabbed behind us".
And finally, the terriost said that we could watch lively what is happening at Taj hotel and Railway station using India's media and we were able to put command to our friends whoever involved in that place. Media showed the attack lively to increase their TRP ratings.

 

JP says:

January 21,2010 at 09:03 PM IST

Afridi rates Australian T20 Big Bash higher, tougher than IPL .then why he is crying now??

 

DevilStudd says:

January 21,2010 at 09:04 PM IST

I guess hypocrisy is quite common when you get paid for writing blogs.

Mr. Karla says "If I am a franchisee - why would I risk my reputation by not making fans happy" but he wants Google to risk their reputation in China by showing Arunachal part of India.

Mr Karla: Controversial blog is a cheap way to get famous but i think you know the fact (and hence I can you hypocrite): Companies just care for business and money and they don't care for your feeling or mine. I bet if you were pakistani blogger - you would have a different article.

(Reply to DevilStudd)- grsum says:

January 21,2010 at 09:56 PM IST

yes this seems th article has benn written to undo the first blog. and yes it seems the basic purpose of writing the blog is to write controversial issues ,get good hits n mk mooney..but how can we distinguish as a reader wetr thse are the authors views or just written to garner hits.

 

Abhimanyu says:

January 21,2010 at 09:20 PM IST

why is media/ bloggers wasting so much of space n time on something so petty as this? i dont think this deserves the kind of attention it is grabbing

 

yogesh prasad says:

January 21,2010 at 09:45 PM IST

They can send terrorist to rupture ur financial city,they why u care if u dint take them to play in ur country..they wil ltake ur money and invest in the grp to break ur house here..better u dont invite them ever here..!!

 

Omen says:

January 21,2010 at 09:56 PM IST

I am not sure why Pakistan and its players are making so much noise about not being bought by IPL franchises. They are no of reasons in support of India and India franchises:

1) The franchises didn't bid for lot of other players and country. so what makes them think that it was preplanned to target Pakistan and Pakistani palyers.
2) Who can be sure of their availability when they or their board themselves didn't want them to play in IPL2.
3) Please remember it is INDIAN premier league, played in INDIA, run by INDIANs, sponsored by INDIANs, money invested is hard earned by INDIANs.
4) India needs to give strong message to Pakistan that "you will not walk away everytime by conducting terrorist activities against India. If you don't respect peace with India then India has all the right to boycott Pakistan and its players."

 

Suhas says:

January 21,2010 at 10:21 PM IST

Very thoughtful. I agree with your views.

"Why would a franchisee invest heavily in a great player if the wrongdoings by his country somewhere works against his interest? .......

....including them among the players available and then ‘humiliating’ them, they should have simply said, sorry, given the current scenario, we are unable to welcome you for the IPL. It would have hurt too, but less."

Just that we have a slight benefit of hindsight.

Suhas

 

Shobhit says:

January 21,2010 at 10:27 PM IST

This writer has a habit of stating the obvious. In the previous article he had done the same. This time also he is just saying that its the franchises' money and they can put it wherever they please..Yes..we know..whats your point?

 

Indian says:

January 21,2010 at 10:28 PM IST

If I were a Pakistani, the first thing I would have done is humiliate these paki cricketers badly in pakistan and shun them off their career in cricket, for begging and demanding alms. This is hights of slavery. If they have any shame left, they will resign from their posts immediately and leave their positions behind for more dignified people.
I am waiting for that day, when India will capture Pakistan. Atleast that way , we can teach them how to have some dignity. I am slo ashamed of my Indians who would leave no stone unturned and ready to lick anyone's ass in Australia just to get their permanent residentship status in Australia, inspite of being humiliated and disrespected at all levels is Australis. This is heights of sinking low. A dry crumb of bread with dignity is always better than any Royal Banquet with slavery.

(Reply to Indian)- Shobhit says:

January 21,2010 at 10:45 PM IST

You are an idiot. Be more jingoistic

(Reply to Indian)- Pakistan says:

January 22,2010 at 12:58 AM IST

Sorry to disappoint you my friend but Indian will never capture Pakistan. If India had guts, Pakistan wouldn't have been created! Long Live Pak.

(Reply to Pakistan)- Sumera Gafoor says:

January 22,2010 at 05:58 PM IST

My dear friend, nobody in India in his senses wants to capture Pakistan. Who would want to have a territory which is ungovernable, what with a highly bigoted and fundamentalist attitude in all matters, and a basic view on life which supports obscurantist approaches to all human issues, like empowerment of women? You can please be happy by yourself, and good luck to you.

 

Veliyam Sasi says:

January 21,2010 at 10:33 PM IST

The franchisees have every right to choose their players keeping in mind their business interest. They are not doing charity. The common man does not understand the virtue of having friendly relations with a nation which is bend upon pushing in terrorists trained by their State agencies at every available opportunity to kill our innocent citizens. Sponsoring terrorism and talking peace cannot go hand in hand. As long as pak sponsored terrorism continues, no relation with them is necessary. Simply Pak is not welcome in india at this juncture. We are also not amused the way some Pak artists are being entertained in our country by geniuses like you.

 

Cricket Fan says:

January 21,2010 at 11:27 PM IST

I agree with the point completely that the franchisees as a commercial enterprise have a right to choose whatever player they wish to bring to their team, and that includes taking into account the sentiments associated with the player from the host country's political perspective. However, this sentiment was not taken into account when the franchisees did express an interest in the Pakistani players that brought them to the auction table. A sudden change of heart within 2 weeks stinks of political foul play, and that too from certain circles of the Indian political landscape. In fact, even if there is a security threat to Pakistani players (hint: shiv sena), it is a result of an inherently political matter. Hence, bye bye to the so called moral high ground of those who point out that Pakistan should not try to link cricket with politics here. Time for a reality check people!

Finally, somewhere in the articles you mention Pakistani players should not have to suffer from their government's wrongdoings?!? Woah! I guess you mean Indian government's shenanigans through Afghan embassies, getting involved in Pakistan's volatile FATA region...and the Balochistan region.....and the camoflouge jackets of Indian make found in possession of Taliban attacking Pakistani cities? Right that. Because if it was any other, Im sure the Indian government would be more than willing to provide evidence which they continuosly come shy of, despite utterances to the contrary. I would request the author that in the interest of his intellectual reputation, please stick to cricket. Dont risk your day job talking about what you dont know mate!

 

Indian says:

January 21,2010 at 11:41 PM IST

If I were a Pakistani, the first thing I would have done is humiliate these paki cricketers badly in pakistan and shun them off their career in cricket, for begging and demanding alms. This is hights of slavery. If they have any shame left, they will resign from their posts immediately and leave their positions behind for more dignified people.
I am waiting for that day, when India will capture Pakistan. Atleast that way , we can teach them how to have some dignity. I am slo ashamed of my Indians who would leave no stone unturned and ready to lick anyone's ass in Australia just to get their permanent residentship status in Australia, inspite of being humiliated and disrespected at all levels is Australis. This is heights of sinking low. A dry crumb of bread with dignity is always better than any Royal Banquet with slavery.

 

Indian says:

January 21,2010 at 11:57 PM IST

They send terrorists in our cities to kill innocent citizens and we should hire their cricketers. IPL is an Indian event so Indian interests comes first.
Why do we even care for what they think?

 

raju says:

January 22,2010 at 12:17 AM IST

i believe pakistan is the world best team in this form of the game. it is obviously a conspiracy against them. they have the right to be angry but we should also realize that they are a very proud nation and we may have to bear the concequences of our actions. i think we should apologize as soon as possible, its in our best interest to respect such a strong nation.

 

sraz says:

January 22,2010 at 12:57 AM IST

Shame on IPL and India who are not thinking straight. Cricket has nothing to do with Politics. Cricket only helps bridge gaps between these two old rivals. Shame on Lalit Modi and all those owners of teams in IPL. I can't believe they are all so ignorant and assholes!

 

Cricket Fan says:

January 22,2010 at 01:03 AM IST

Hi there moderator. I see this comments page has no room for alternate opinion about some of the things mentioned. No wonder

 

maverick says:

January 22,2010 at 01:03 AM IST

Have you gone insane Mr Rajesh Karla...go sit with the families who have lost their loved one..go sit with the soldiers who have to fight bullets in the bone chilling cold to ward of paki sponsored terrorists so that you & me can have a peaceful sleep..go sit with the innocent ppl who have lost one or more of their body part to a bomb blast for no fault of theirs....& try writing the same column again...let me see if you stil can replicate the same words...

 

Kunal says:

January 22,2010 at 01:27 AM IST

its no more about CRICKET.it more about CRIC-HATE

 

tarun says:

January 22,2010 at 02:09 AM IST

FAISAL
me an indian die then to wear uniform written over
"PPL",SO WHAT KIND OF PAKISTANI ARE U PEOPLE
wearing indian uniform mearing 4 some bucks.
same on u guys

 

Varun says:

January 22,2010 at 02:25 AM IST

Pakistani players not being part of IPL shows how weak the relationships are b/w the two countries. Look at USA and Canada for example, and learn how to respect and progress in the world. We are fighting over same old issues and loads of Bullcrap which quite frankly needs to stop. I feel for pakistani players but the way Indians treated this situation once again showed how irresponsible and immature they really are. Well IPL is just another league but no one can deny the pride of T20 champions.

 

R. Sebastien (West Indies) says:

January 22,2010 at 02:47 AM IST

This is not a case of politics, it is just that the Pakistani cricketers are marketable for the T20 game (even if they are world T20 champs. There is no flambouyance in the Pakistanis. Look at the WHOOPING they got in Australia. Are the Pakistani government looking at bribes taken by their players to loose. It is a matter of SOUR GRAPES and a lack of interlect on the Pakistani government to divert from the real issue between Pakistan & India.
ps. Even Afridi have lost his flambouyance!!!

 

Indrani says:

January 22,2010 at 03:06 AM IST

Here comes another 'intel' ( pronounce atel- a bengali word mocking pseudo intellectuals), after Abhijit Ghosh. Sensing public mood tries to butter both sides. Hey Rajesh Kalra, don't you fear being dethroned from 'intel' world? TOI, I know you will not publish this letter as you did not publish my earlier letter where I wrote about Abhijit Ghosh. You media people are greedy and cowards.

 

Robin says:

January 22,2010 at 03:11 AM IST

Sound business decision. I agree with Abhay why are our people so apologetic about it? I am not going to set up my structure where the central pillar is set on weak grounds. Similarly if I am a franchisee, I am not going to spend close to a Million Dollars on uncertain prospects and spend a few million more managing the situation(security and every nice little things that goes with pampering celebrities).

 

Aseem Patel says:

January 22,2010 at 03:47 AM IST

I AM SURE ALL CRICKET LOVING INDIANS LIKE ME ARE DISGUSTED WITH IPL, THEIR MATHCES WOULD NO MORE BE ENTERTAINING.
I AND SECULAR HINDUS ARE APPALLED BY READING THE COMMENTS OF THESE FANATIC HINDUS.

 

Sanskriti says:

January 22,2010 at 04:18 AM IST

Your stand, just like the franchisees, rests on shakable grounds. The simple question is, since we all know of the risks that a franchisee would have to take in picking up a Pakistani player, wouldn't it have been much easier to not pull them up in the list for bidding at all? Why put those players at auction who you know are risky and you'd be better off without them.

In my opinion, the debate still stands. If you wanted to phase them out anyway, why do it so disgracefully? Why not take a clear stand and make it obvious instead of being discreet. Clearly this doesn't help either side of the border.

 

Prabhakaran says:

January 22,2010 at 04:25 AM IST

When you are going to buy a pen, you think twice before spending 10 Rs. Why cant the franchisees have the right of ignoring/selecting the players of their choice. Can Pak Players now say, we will ignore IPL going forward? They wont. There is no politics involved, it is all about MONEY. Every one is going to be greedy and you cant expect ppl to give you money just like that.

 

gagan says:

January 22,2010 at 07:15 AM IST

Really, our self styled intellectuals are over enthusiastic to outdo one another in their antipathy for anything patriotic .....they are so deviated from what the mood of the nation is. These guys are in the business of selling rhetoric....if they had invested money in a IPL team, would they take risk with Pak cricketers?....it is easy to blabber without having any stake. Atleast, this author recognizes this hypocrisy.

 

Uma Sankar says:

January 22,2010 at 09:33 AM IST

During the last edition of the IPL the same pakistan criket board did not allowed their players to participate in the IPL but they are crying this time dont know why.

 

Lata says:

January 22,2010 at 09:57 AM IST

Good article. I persoanlly feel that IPL3 has done the right thing. After 26/11 its very difficult to include Pakistan. We have not recovered.They need to mend their ways if they want to ge included.
From a Mumbaite.

 

Hassan - Lahore says:

January 22,2010 at 10:29 AM IST

Franchises have the right to ignore players but invite Pakistani players? Why the charade to go through the approvals and getting visas for them. Why did franchises show interest to include them in the auction? Why couldn't they say before that they don't want any Pakistani because of security reasons or whatever reasons you could make up? Sadly India doesn't want peace with Pakistan and it is just holding every Pakistani fan of IPL hostage for it. When will you guys understand that we don't hate India or Indians. Why do you buy cheap politics from your govt. and let the terrorists win?

(Reply to Hassan - Lahore)- S.M.Singru says:

January 22,2010 at 08:03 PM IST

Hasan,we Indians, too, don't hate Pakistanis. Let me tell you that it has been the privilege of many of us to know Pakistani families, and we were pleasantly surprised to see the similarity of many human values.Indeed, when we hear of the terrible explosions in Pakistan, many of us rush to reassure themselves of the continued well being of their friends there.What is hurting us badly, and on this point, let there be no mincing of words, is that most of the terrorists who attacked us were trained, brought up, and armed in Pakistan. Now we don't hold this against the people of Pakistan, but is it too much for us to expect that Pakistani people should put very strong pressure on their government to effectively prevent and stop these anti Indian activities?

(Reply to Hassan - Lahore)- Ajit - USA says:

January 22,2010 at 09:20 PM IST

You are wrong. A recent TV interview with a 10 yr old girl in Pakistan said that she was taught to hate India and Indians by her teacher at maddrassa and her parents. When your politicians corrupt young innocent minds like this, no wonder the poor ignorant people get brainwashed by LeT and Al-Q to commit atrocities of 26/11. People of Pakistan have to tell their politicians and the aemy enough is enough. Without it it will be people of Pakistan who will suffer socially and economically. Indian businesses and franchises wont suffer because there is big demand elsewhere. First you have to earn honesty, reliability, and confidence before anybody can trust you guys.

(Reply to Hassan - Lahore)- Prab says:

January 28,2010 at 05:37 AM IST

very simple to teach them a lesson. Then the pakis between us such as chidambram,gill, srk started shedding tears and blogs started to go abuzz. remember srk is muslim and congis didn't miss yet another opportunity to express their regret to muslim community and secure their votes. Kudos to our ballless pm mms and his master sonia and her cronies.

 

Sunil Kumar says:

January 22,2010 at 10:41 AM IST

It's Indian Premier League not Pakistan..P..L, We will decide whom to Include who to Exclude. I don't understand why there is hue and cry in Pakistan. They have their fan followings in Pakistan not in India. If they are not selected, it's just because they are not as competent as other players in India and other countries.

 

Tushar says:

January 22,2010 at 10:47 AM IST

Pakistanis deserve to be humilated.They dont have any prestige in the first place,humilation is something far off.They want to earn from India on one hand and on the other kill Indian people by exporting terror.Doesnt the world know that Javed Mianded and Dawood Ibrahim are related.What are they gonna do?Send terrorists to attack IPL venues.One can expect this from Pakistanis.It is the choice of the team owners who are Indian citizens.Its their money.Its not about humilation,the jealous pakistanis cant believe that the cricketers from around the globe are earning crores and they lost the chance.Its about money.Money talks.

(Reply to Tushar)- S.M.Singru says:

January 22,2010 at 05:50 PM IST

Tushar, who exactly are these Pakistani people, and are they , in any fundamental manner, different from us? They are as easily misled by clever politicians as we are. When our politicians in power supported LTTE in Sri Lanka, many of us ( particularly in South )applauded. And when this ruling group staged a volte face and went to the extant of putting LTTE supporters in India behind bars, many of us cheered. The truth is that unless there is a means to have well informed, independent, and rational formation of public opinion, jingoism shall prevail. Perhaps, Pakistani people are having much less of these means than us, and that is why their different perception.

(Reply to S.M.Singru)- Varun Shekhar says:

January 23,2010 at 01:38 AM IST

Singru, the comparison you make is not legitimate. Pakistan as a country has been relentless in exporting terror to destabilise and damage India. The whole Tamil movement was a response to the Sinhala only policy Sri Lanka was following, which they are now dispensing with. The support to the LTTE you refer to, was in any case, of very short duration. It ended in 1987, or even before. Pakistani terror against India is ideological and virtually implacable.

(Reply to Varun Shekhar)- S.M.Singru says:

January 23,2010 at 09:01 AM IST

Varun, you have only proved my point. You have a certain perception, and I have another. Similarly, fueled and fanned by their totally selfish and fundamentalist politicians , Pakistanis have built up a certain perception, and it is going to need a lot of effort to change it, but we must strive hard towards it. That is why the importance of such blogs and the discussions, even if they sometimes turn acrimonious. Two years ago, I met a group of Pakistani civil servants at a seminar in Philippines, and I found that they were remarkably open minded in discussing where both India and Pakistan have gone wrong. Indeed we concluded that there ought to be a lot of mutual discussion and free airing of views between us. Their approach was strikingly different than what one gets either from the Pakistani politicians or ill informed common people. This means that the areas of understanding need to be tenuously enlarged. The problem is that their society is not as pluralistic as ours. Secondly, they don't have as enlightened and open minded media as ours, and patriotism gets identified with fundamentalism. The moral is that both people must work with a determination to avoid rash conclusions and prejudices. I am reminded of what Bertrand Russell said in the early 'sixties about promoting international peace ( when the West

 

Indian_in Delhi says:

January 22,2010 at 11:14 AM IST

Why just stop with these cricketers....we should also stop the pakis of availing free or subsidized hospital care in our best hospitals who otherwise charges us Indians a fortune....we stop these paki singers making money in India when our movies and actors are banned...the list goes on....what we need are Politicians with Balls to call Pakistan's bluff....

 

Uday says:

January 22,2010 at 12:01 PM IST

Another apology? I am yet to see Pak govt., or it people apologize for 26/11 in which 10 young Muslim men massacred more than 175 Indian civilians.

But to Indian media this IPL thing was a bigger insult? What hypocrisy and trash journalism.

 

Balaji says:

January 22,2010 at 12:04 PM IST

This is a flawed article. Purely by including Pak players, you would only de-risk the attacks not increase risk. Why would terrorists from Pak attack when their players are playing. Now that there are no Pak players it gives them a good chance to go at it... For the record, I don't agree that our IPL should have behaved in this way. India is known to treat guests and the way we have behaved is deplorable

 

Yadav says:

January 22,2010 at 12:08 PM IST

The Indian media like Muslims see insult and injustice in every thing. But they don't see daily terror plots (see top news of airline hijacking threat) as worrisome or injustice?

They spend more time on trivial things but intolerance and terror perpetrated by Muslims is ignored.

 

Omar says:

January 22,2010 at 12:36 PM IST

Muslims are complaining all the time. It is just another ruse to launch more terror attacks. And Indian media and some posters here are just adding fuel to fire. Some posters are saying that the chances of Muslim terror attacks has now gone up with absence of Pak players!!

Do we need to know any thing else about Muslims?

(Reply to Omar)- Nitin says:

January 22,2010 at 03:04 PM IST

Sorry mate,it is not the muslims who complain all the time, it is the pakis, they are not the same as the Indian Muslim, the muslim in India is an Indian, and many of them even died for India during the wars with Pakistan.

(Reply to Nitin)- S.M.Singru says:

January 23,2010 at 05:44 PM IST

Nitin, I am totally with you. The Indian muslims have been caught between fundamentalist fatwas issued to them from outside India, and their basic patriotism. Barring a few exceptions (which would be there in ALL societies-- during the Cold War,some Americans did work for Russia, didn't they?)Indian muslims have shown fine qualities of keeping their loyalty to their nation higher than their attachment to foreign religious tutors. Let us not forget that this is a difficult thing to do for a religion like Islam, but they have done it, and they deserve kudos.

(Reply to Nitin)- S.M.Singru says:

January 23,2010 at 05:44 PM IST

Nitin, I am totally with you. The Indian muslims have been caught between fundamentalist fatwas issued to them from outside India, and their basic patriotism. Barring a few exceptions (which would be there in ALL societies-- during the Cold War,some Americans did work for Russia, didn't they?)Indian muslims have shown fine qualities of keeping their loyalty to their nation higher than their attachment to foreign religious tutors. Let us not forget that this is a difficult thing to do for a religion like Islam, but they have done it, and they deserve kudos.

 

India Travel says:

January 22,2010 at 01:30 PM IST

Why just stop with these cricketers....we should also stop the pakis of availing free or subsidized hospital care in our best hospitals who otherwise charges us Indians a fortune....we stop these paki singers making money in India when our movies and actors are banned...the list goes on....what we need are Politicians with Balls to call Pakistan's bluff.

 

JK says:

January 22,2010 at 02:23 PM IST

Pakistani players and people deserves humiliation after their all out support to terrorism. Pakistani people should know that how to earn respect. They should stop funding to terror outfits like LeT and Al Quaida. Say "no" to Pakistani politicians who shout about Kashmir. How you people can expect respect after 26/11? Entire pakistani military and politicians are involved in shameful act. First go out and tell your government to punish Hafiz Saieed, Dawood Ibrahim. Any pakistani is not ready to speak against terrorism. Rather they support terrorism. First stop being onvolved in terror acts.

 

Navneet says:

January 22,2010 at 02:34 PM IST

And if IPL had said no to these Pak players before auction then what was guarantee that likes of Afridi wouldnt have gone to media by saying Pakistan players are not wanted and they have insulted Pakistan. The media would have once again called IPL biased and racist towards Pakistan. IPL did the right thing by taking out Pak players during auction.

 

Naasir says:

January 22,2010 at 02:38 PM IST

To all pakistan cricket supporter and citizen..!!!
Bahut puraani kahawat hai
" ki behzati toh unki hoti hai jin ki koi izzat hoti hai "
Whole world say that pakistan is hub and exporter of terroism...as said by western media....main cancer of terrorism is in pakistan...dont it is shame rather getting not selected for IPL!!

 

Anil says:

January 22,2010 at 03:00 PM IST

Why are all the Pakistanis whining? one of their most noted cricketer Javed Miandad married off his son to Dawood Ibrahim's daughter. Did anybody in Pakistan object to Miandad's behaviour? Wasn't this insulting to all us Indians? and now when their cricketers are not included in IPL, they start whining.

 

Uma parbati says:

January 22,2010 at 03:02 PM IST

Hail..the blooger. Nice pakis shudnt be given chance!

 

Shridhar, Oman says:

January 22,2010 at 03:59 PM IST

Please understand that Pakistani's are angry with us not because we have not included them in the IPL. But they feel that we have purposefully tried to insult them by including them in the selection process in the first place and then rejecting all the 11 players telling that they are unfit to play in the IPL. It is absurd to think that 20-20 world champion team don't have a single player worthy to be included in the IPL. If IPL management thinks that prevailing atmosphere it is difficult to play Pakistani players, they should not have been considered at all. Once they are in the selection process they should be taken on merit. Please understand we may have many issues with Pakistanis, but by insulting them this way we may not achieve anything...

 

JK says:

January 22,2010 at 04:00 PM IST

Pakistani players and people deserves humiliation after their all out support to terrorism. Pakistani people should know that how to earn respect. They should stop funding to terror outfits like LeT and Al Quaida. Say "no" to Pakistani politicians who shout about Kashmir. How you people can expect respect after 26/11? Entire pakistani military and politicians are involved in shameful act. First go out and tell your government to punish Hafiz Saieed, Dawood Ibrahim. Any pakistani is not ready to speak against terrorism. Rather they support terrorism. First stop being onvolved in terror acts.

(Reply to JK)- S.M.Singru says:

January 22,2010 at 05:39 PM IST

JK, are you on solid grounds when you say that Pakistani people are supporting terrorism? My feeling is that the politics of Pakistan is so badly chaotic that a part of the government supports and aids terrorism, while the remaining part either opposes or remains mute.And while this bad governance goes on, the common man there suffers and groans when one human tragedy after another takes place.Ultimately, the common man there ends up in being confused.In this state of his mind,nothing works better than a hate India campaign.

 

wangjin, Arunachal wala says:

January 22,2010 at 04:08 PM IST

I second the blogger. They sould be treated like this as for now. But in future this behaviour of our govt and people may lead to more pakistani sponsored terrorist attack like 26/11. So its good to be freindly in future. As for now all these Aman ki Asha blah blah things are just mere crap!
TOI ru listening? Stop being pak pro!

 

ankit says:

January 22,2010 at 04:13 PM IST

India is a big nation and nor did Indians have time to waste time in planning conspiracy in sport specially against Pakistan. conspiracy is always planed against the strong onces nt the weakest. we Indian are working day and night to bring forward our nation . its time to watch more successfully nations and achieve our set goals in economy .. Pakistan we have no time for you to sit here and plan conspiracy against u.. we have lots of work to do unlike u guys having nothing to do just sit ideal and blame Indian in every way possible...please you Pakistanis we have set our horizons and we do want we want...PROUD TO BE INDIAN

 

mannu says:

January 22,2010 at 06:47 PM IST

This is IPL and no pakistani should be therer to play IPL

 

Amit says:

January 22,2010 at 07:23 PM IST

Why pakistanis need sympathy here in terms of apologies ?Don;t you remember when you killed CRICKET COACH "Bob"? and most of you were laughing infront of cameras.. If guys really want India to treat you good than STOP all kind of attacks on indis. India did good by not bidding on single paki player..ALL IS WELL

 

Varun Shekhar says:

January 22,2010 at 08:44 PM IST

What's the big deal about anyway? India should not even be playing a terrorist scum country like Pakistan in cricket or any sport. Let alone have its newspaper columnists being apologetic about not electing Pakistani cricket players for the IPL. Grow some sense, people.

 

z.rks says:

January 22,2010 at 08:47 PM IST

In d last IPL 2 the pak cricket officals didnot allow dre players stating security problems, now de r complaining for not taking them all they want is a drama, we know what is good for all.

 

Gregory says:

January 22,2010 at 09:13 PM IST

If the media is really aware of the pulse of Indian public, why they are shouting for this pakistan?Majority of us doesnt want pakistanis to play in our country anymore...NO INDIAN MONEY TO ANY PAKIS ANYMORE....cos these money is further moved as tax to the government whcich inturn moves into the hands of terrorists who work against India...So no more paki players in IPL until their government takes a strong action against the terrorists.btw why this Jawed miandad is barking for ICC control over IPL?It seems he is really frustrated over this issue since no pakis are going to get anymore Indian money to be funded for terrorism????he itself give his child to the terrorist Dawood and now barking for taking paki players in IPL...How pathetic????If pakis got some amount of self repect remaining please stop crying and begging...You are not at all allowed to play in India and make money from us anymore...

 

Dinesh says:

January 22,2010 at 09:24 PM IST

Law suit to pay damage would follow after complaint. How much did ICC paid PCB to cancel World Cup in Pakistan? Who's mistake was it? Was it a ICC fiasco? directly or indirectly it ends up to Terror. How much didi PAK paid to the World effected by their home-grown terrorists? For PAK Terrorism is a game and now, game is used for Terrorism. Criticizers of IPL Franchises must invest first to comment. It's is not running on PCB or ICC's charity and they have every legal right to select their investments for benefits.

 

N.Amin says:

January 22,2010 at 09:38 PM IST

I could not read all the comments but all i can say is everybody is mixing politics of two nations with a sport which is loved by both nations so dearly that it is almost like religion.Just think sports and sportsmen and rationalise the outcome of this episode.You will get your answers

(Reply to N.Amin )- AK SINGH says:

January 24,2010 at 07:54 AM IST

AMIN- would you kindly advice PAKIS to stop mixing KILLING and POLITICS- that is what JEHADI TERRORISM is.

 

Gregory says:

January 22,2010 at 10:10 PM IST

If the media is really aware of the pulse of Indian public, why they are shouting for this pakistan?Majority of us doesnt want pakistanis to play in our country anymore...NO INDIAN MONEY TO ANY PAKIS ANYMORE....cos these money is further moved as tax to the government whcich inturn moves into the hands of terrorists who work against India...So no more paki players in IPL until their government takes a strong action against the terrorists.btw why this Jawed miandad is barking for ICC control over IPL?It seems he is really frustrated over this issue since no pakis are going to get anymore Indian money to be funded for terrorism????he itself give his child to the terrorist Dawood and now barking for taking paki players in IPL...How pathetic????If pakis got some amount of self repect remaining please stop crying and begging...You are not at all allowed to play in India and make money from us anymore...

 

Raj Patel says:

January 22,2010 at 11:23 PM IST

Pakistani Players (in fact any player) do not have any Right (it is just privileged ) to enter in the IPL. In this free world, How come you force some one to buy yourself?

 

Yagnesh Shukla says:

January 23,2010 at 09:18 AM IST

Agree with issue " one must review business intereset of investor prior to making any irresponsible comment. Who will invest for uncertainity in investment ?
IPL is not a charity show where everyone gets benifit and enjoyment!!it's a plateform where vitamin "M" is associated with pleasure of sport profenalism and performance to strive for victory as well---- GUESS?????????

 

Sam U says:

January 23,2010 at 09:38 AM IST

BREAKING NEWS: If the Pakis are T20 champs, does not mean they have to be selected. The main reason was because they are out of form. They were whitewashed in Aus. I do know Test and T20 are different but its still cricket. Afridi was a big flop in the 1st edition and in the 2nd their government did not allow them.

The Paki government is pissed because they needed the players money to buy arms to strike our beloved and advanced country.

Why Pakis are coming to India for medical treatement and why is Adnam Sami loving India more than Pak?

 

v.k. vohra says:

January 23,2010 at 12:47 PM IST

As you rightly said it is very wrong to list them and then do not pick them or ignore them. Pakistan has wonderful players in the game and are better than many other players auctioned in the IPL.
Everyone knows how circket is followed in the subcontinent and it is very wrong to create such situation where the governments are at loggerheads.
No matter what tensions exist between the two countries, IPL and the franchisees who are money making machines had no right to damage the relations between the countires rather they should be mending the relations.
It is well said that there will be additional risk if the pakistani players are included but then why include them in the first place?
Is Lalit Modi or Shilpa Shetty a politician? They are BIG ZERO. They will never realize what damage is done since they after the money and would not care for any thing else including the country itself.
In the past cricket has softned the tensions between our two countries and to add fire to it is not an intelligent move and action by the IPL.

(Reply to v.k. vohra)- Manish M says:

January 23,2010 at 04:18 PM IST

Vohra-praaji, whatever you have been smoking has done you little good. please stop.

 

Manish M says:

January 23,2010 at 04:30 PM IST

@Rajesh, I see absolutely no reason why we should be defensive about what happened to paki players in the IPL auctions. It is a marketplace, after all, and if the market considers them too risky (matches could be disrupted), so be it. on the contrary, i can give you many reasons to keep these jokers out of IPL.

Looked at from another angle, when these paki players themselves make no attempt at all to distance themselves from their jihadi compatriots when they commit acts of terror in India, why should we Indians make a distinction b/w those pakis who kill our compatriots and those who only come here to play cricket? and if we make no distinction, then an afridi should be as much anathema to us a mehsud/hafiz saeed.

All this rigmarole about people-to-people contact has been a load of bull (pardon the bluntness) in Pakistan's context. the average man in pakistan has no say in the running of the country. the average man doesn't even know who runs the country. in fact, nobody -- not even the mai-baap US --- really knows who runs Pakistan. so, what's the point in nursing these hopes of improved indo-pak relations due to p-to-p contacts? ... See More

the fact that every paki politician under pressure begins to parrot the old "1000 year war with india" song of bhutto, shows that there is a huge support for india-bashing in the paki nation and paki system. even someone relatively moderate by paki standards like wasim akram admitted on simi garewal's chat show --- with all its saccharine sweetness -- that playing india is like war. why, then, are we ready to go to wagah with candles at the drop of a hat?

finally, if india could forfeit davis cup matches with south africa b/c s africa's whites were ill-treating their black countrymen ...that is, if we owe a debt of solidarity to the "oppressed people of south africa" as nehru would've put it, then don't we also owe a much greater debt of solidarity to those of our countrymen who've been killed by paki terror?

 

LRB says:

January 23,2010 at 05:27 PM IST

Hello Rajesh

I feel the article had been presented in most intelligent manner and moreover there is a lesson which everyboby will be learning with experince, of the preparedness for the CWG, for which only 9 months are left. The sucess for CWG is most important for India and any nusience created and action taken will be a 'litmus test' for India and every brawback can be corrected in T20.

Thanks
LRB

 

sam says:

January 23,2010 at 10:59 PM IST

Now media is spending too much money for aman ki asha !I request them to use the money for good cause .Like Haiti victim. Not to sponser damager export to india.The pak president say the they will fight thousand years with India.Why they want to play in india?We should not bother much about Pak ?

 

dash says:

January 23,2010 at 11:17 PM IST

We should focuse on welbeing of pak.No PAK should be given visa to india,Now they are talking too much.If we give them more people to people contact then they will distroy our country.We must put fence all along the border.Every indian should contribute money for this.Times of india should stop AMAN KI ASHA.WHICH IS NEVER POSIBLE WITH them.They should not dream to visit india and for what purpose they want to come? we should not trust PAK.Let us spend money for our poor people.Govt.should learn from IPL !

 

Anil says:

January 24,2010 at 03:20 AM IST

Journalists should be neutral and you, Mr. Kalra, are nowhere near neutral. I cant believe Times lets you write such articles!

 

barmyboyz says:

January 24,2010 at 04:29 AM IST

To all the pakistanis complaining about India or IPL 4 not accepting paki players,just want to remind you that you coming to indian website or indian blog shows that pakistan need india's approval.Actually it shows that there is not forum available in pakistan to discuss any issue.We all know actually whole world know pakistan is problem therefore in latest list of countries issued by USA that include ppl coming from pakistan will searched and go thru special questioning shows that pakistand cannot be trusted.Again all of you pakis how bad we (indians) are but all of your players are begging and dying to play here beacuse they are frustrated that pakistan is not good place them to earn their livehood.We decline to accepted pakis because we can and nobody can stop us it is simple....
ADVICE 4 ALL OF YOU(PAKISTANIS) IF YOU WANT TO COMPETE WITH INDIA THEN WORK ON YOUR ECONOMY SIMPLE..THESE ECONOMICAL POWER IS GREATER THAN ANYTHING AND PRESENT YOU ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS STANDING...ACTUALLY ISLAM NEVER THOUGHT ABOT ECONOMY AND NEVER BOTHERED ABOUT ANY EDUCATION EXCEPT MADARSA SO HOW YOU PAKIS KNOW ABOUT ECONOMY...KEEP WORKING MAY BE YOUR ALLAH WILL COME AND HELP YOU KNOW ABOUT ECONOMY.

(Reply to barmyboyz)- INDIAN SECULARIST says:

January 25,2010 at 11:17 AM IST

MR. WHO EVER U R. I ALSO HATE PAKISTAN FOR THEIR ANTI-INDIAN THINKINGS AND IDEAS. BUT WHY R U BLAMING ISLAM? IT WAS THE INDIAN PAST MULSIM RULERS WHO THOUGHT INDIA HOW TO DO BUSINESS. OTHERWISE U PEOPLE ONLY KNEW OF HOW TO WEAR DHOTI(HALF NAKED). THE MUSLIM RULERS HAVE RULED INDIAN FOR ALMOST 1000 YEARS. READ HISTORY MAN. IF MUSLIMS DOESNT KNOW ABOUT ECONOMY, THEN HOW COME SAUDI ARABIA IS THE LEADING ECONOMY PLAYER IN THE WORLD? DEAR DONT HAVE HATRED FOR ISLAM. FIRST BE A GOOD HUMAN BEING AND DONT CRTITISIZE ANY RELIGION FOR ANYTHING B4 U KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I HOPE MY MESSAGE IS CLEAR TO YOU MY FRIEND.

(Reply to INDIAN SECULARIST)- Monika says:

January 26,2010 at 06:03 AM IST

Whom are you fooling? You are a Pakistani. Muslims taught India what?? come again?? Astounding! Muslims didn’t teach Hindus anything, nothing at all, you got it? I wonder which history books you have been reading. It were the British who introduced a blouse for a sari, that’s about it. People still wear dhotis and other traditional wear in India.
What Muslims introduced was religious fanaticism and the snatching the rights of women by making them seem inferior, introducing pallu and other bigoted unethical and nonsensical things. Muslims weren’t able to influence majority of Hindus as they were able to convert the entire countries like Persia, Morocco, Indonesia and so on. Hindus kept resisting and at last won. If India was a majority Muslim country, it wouldn’t have been different from Afghanistan and Pakistan. Need i say more? Wow, Islam didn’t teach those Muslim countries anything? Shame shame
The invaders who came to India were tribal illiterates who stayed on India for its wealth and Saudi Arabia isn't leading in anything, they are lucky to have natural resources which will not be there in a long run. You are nobody to direct others not to speak against Islam as Muslims degrade Hinduism and Hindus like you just did in your comment (which you think is justified because you are a Muslim, what a hypocritical community you people are). Muslims have given the world nothing but carnage and now, terrorism.

(Reply to Monika)- INDIAN SECULARIST says:

January 31,2010 at 12:42 PM IST

Ms Monica: First of all, I am an Indian and I am from Bangalore. I was the first Muslim in my area who use to burst crackers if India win Against Pakistan. Anyways kindly note that, people have different opinions regarding religions. U have different image of Islam, bcoz u haven't studied it. and Regarding History of India, U better study it. If the Muslim rulers in India would have want all India to to convert into Islam, it was very simple for them as the power was with them. U should be knwoing Tippu Sultan of Karnataka. How was his regime? Just study the History Sister!. Anyways regarding Saudi Arabia's Natural Resources, We Indians have to thank them for the vast Oild supply they are supplying us. Otherwise India will go 100 years back. And regarding their ending of Natural resources, After the Oil is finished, by the grace of God, they have enormous GOLD. I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE AFTER SAUDI ARABIA. INFACT SAUDI ARABIA IS A GOOD FRIEND OF INDIA, SINCE THE TIME OF INDIRA GANDHI. AND MS. MONICA, DONT SAY MUSLIMS AS HYPOCRITICAL COMMUNITY, IF FEW PEOPLE ARE BAD, U CANNOT CLAIM THAT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS BAD. DEAR SISTER, REMOVE THE GRUDGE U HAVE IN UR HEART AND STUDY ISLAM FROM GENUINE SOURCES. MAY GOD GUIDE U ON STRAIGH PATH.

(Reply to Monika)- INDIAN SECULARIST says:

January 31,2010 at 12:56 PM IST

NOWHERE DOES ISLAM ENJOIN THE KILLING OF INNOCENTS.. The Quran says:
"Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not
transgress limits. God does not love transgressors." (Quran 2:190)
"If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in God for He is
the One that heareth and knoweth all things." (Quran 8:61) War,
therefore, is the last resort, and is subject to the rigorous
conditions laid down by the sacred law. The term 'jihad' literally
means 'struggle'. Muslims believe that there are two kinds of jihad.
The other 'jihad' is the inner struggle of the soul which everyone
wages against egotistic desires for the sake of attaining inner
peace.
just log on to this site: http://www.jannah.org/articles/misc.html

 

SUHAIL AHMED, Mulbagal, Kolar District, Karnataka, India says:

January 24,2010 at 11:50 AM IST

The Angry Players and politicians of Pakistan are Blaming IPL and India for not purchasing their players. Why dindn't both these bodies condemned the Terrorist Attack on Mumbai?

IPL HAS DONE THE GOOD THING BY IGNORING PAKI PLAYERS.

 

R.Vasudevan says:

January 25,2010 at 12:35 PM IST

We have to realize that IPL is purely a private business. Investors and owners can do what they like as long as it is legal. Nobody has a right to question this. This is not an international olympics or a world cup like tournament to assure all countries' participation.

The 'foul' cry from Pakistan or their supporters is absurd.

 

sanjay says:

January 25,2010 at 07:39 PM IST

I agree to agree.

 

Vijay says:

January 25,2010 at 08:31 PM IST

Now the home mister says why not pak players.Looks like the whole nation is apologetic. In that case Mr Chidambaram why not a full pfledged tour by Pak to India? People of India are emotionally connected to Cricket and to Bombay blasts as well. You and SRK have no business to be apologetic. What kind of country we are living in? There should be no peace with pak till they stop saying 1000 years of war on Kashmir...thats it!

 

vishal says:

January 25,2010 at 08:34 PM IST

I-PL or IPL .. Two Glasses to see through

I have read Authors "View" .. He is Right and Wrong .. i Justify it.. by his Statements...

He Says " Pakistani players, I once again reiterate that they are among the best in the game,"

So,"NO Doubt" about "Quality & Competence" of PAK players.

I-PL:if I am a franchisee who has invested in a Pakistani player, why would I risk it?

No. Never.. after all I (I-PL,FRANCHISE) DOING BUSINESS.They are spending their money and they have "Right" to exercise their "Choice"

So point is very Simple .
We have treat IPL not as "Indian Premiere League" which is Supported & endorsed by Govt of Ind. and "INDIAN OFFICIAL PLATFORM FOR CRICKET"

ITS I-PL - Individual (Franchise)PRe Lege
Its PURE BUSINESS NOTHING ELSE
" And sometime you have to take HARD decision even if you dont like"..Even francise still miss afridi and Ummar gul

but just a suggestion to Mr.Lalit modi and all franchise owners ..Please Please .. never ever from now say you .you run IPl/I-PL for Natioan/International Integration..brotherhood..peace ..Bla bla bla

you may be having that but "Action speaks for itself.."

Nothing wrong you did .. you saw your own profit ..but if you may avoid this humiliation if

i"Things should have been handled differently".. i am not saying .. Authors remarks

Congratulation to IPL .. you run show well.. except some mistakes.
Thanks
Vishal

 

Rits says:

January 25,2010 at 08:41 PM IST

Jasii Karni Vaisee Bharani :)

 

George says:

January 25,2010 at 08:54 PM IST

Who wants to see bearded people playing cricket?
We can not stop them playing international cricket, but atleast we can decided in IPL !!

imagine, cheerleders will be in burqa !!!

and, there will be some bombings, and gun shots when some one hits a boundry....

(Reply to George)- Yogi says:

January 26,2010 at 03:26 AM IST

Man, I wish I could vote a million times in agreeing to what you said! But the site won't allow me, haha!!!

(Reply to George)- FRIEND 4 ALL. says:

January 26,2010 at 02:17 PM IST

DEAR FRIEND, REMOVE THE GRUDGE AGAINST ISLAM AND MULSIMS AND TRY TO STUDY ISLAM. IF U R A CULPRIT IN UR FAMILY, UR ENTIRE FAMILY COULD NOT BE BLAMED FOR THAT RIGHT? SOME PEOPLE (TERRORIST) ARE MALIGNING ISLAM'S IMAGE, SO U MUST NOT BLAME THE RELIGION AND ITS FOLLOWERS. TRY TO STUDY ISLAM. EVEN PROPHET JESUS (MAY PEACE BE UPON HIM) WAS A MULSIM.

(Reply to FRIEND 4 ALL.)- MIKE says:

January 27,2010 at 09:24 PM IST

THEN WHY DOESN'T ANY GOVERNMENT HEAD OR RELIGIOUS LEADERS ARE NOT CONDEMNING THESE TERRORISTS. NO POLITICAL LEADERS FROM PAKISTAN, SAUDI ARABIA, EGYPT OR ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY IS OPENLY CRITICIZING THE TERRORISTS. NO MULLAHS FROM IRAQ, IRAN OR ANYWHERE ELSE HAS OPENLY CRITICIZED THE TERRORIST. THE TERRORIST DON'T CARE IF THEY KILL INNOCENTS SO WHY SHOULD ANYBODY CARE ABOUT THEM.

(Reply to MIKE)- FRIEND 4 ALL says:

January 31,2010 at 12:27 PM IST

MR MIKE, KINDLY BE INFORMED THAT, THE SAUDI ARABIA AND THE OTHER ISLAMIC COUNTRIES HAVE CONDEMNED TERRORISM. NO RELIGION TEACHES INNOCENT KILLINGS. THERE IS A STATEMENT FROM THE PROPHET (PEACE BE UPON HIM) HE SAYS: "WHILE YOU ARE WAGING A WAR, SEE TO THAT WOMEN, CHILDREN AND THE OLD ARE NOT HURT AND DONT KILL THEM". IF TERRORISTS ARE DOING THIS, ISLAM IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. ISLAM AND TERRORISM ARE DIFFERENT RELIGIONS.

(Reply to George)- Jansher says:

January 27,2010 at 05:35 PM IST

Your name is dangerious. George w. bush. So, I am not surprised by your comments.

(Reply to George)- raj says:

January 27,2010 at 06:22 PM IST

boy...u r too good...on the spot...can't stop laughing

 

Pankaj says:

January 25,2010 at 08:57 PM IST

Sometime i am really surprised to see how PAK Muslim gives condemn comments on Indian Politician and security agency. they just need some pose to make more highlight and gain International sympathy. I don't know why.. ?? anyone have answer of my question.. IPL is a just game nothing more then this and again PAK people giving bullshit comment on it..and also bring some other issues with it .. why ? ,,, Indian agencies do not want any PAK player/ not want in our team then ok. why you people given more TRP on this issue.

I think Indian Muslim are living their life more peaceful and joy then PAK Muslim even Indian Muslim population are lager then PAK.. so Please live peaceful and make other life peaceful.. i think, this are words from your hole KURAN Book.. better understand its mean instead of just read..

 

SURENDRA PATEL says:

January 25,2010 at 09:58 PM IST

WE GAVE PART OF INDIA SO THAT ALL MUSLIMS CAN LIVE PEACEFULLY WHICH THEY REFUSE TO DO. CAN'T WE TAKE BACK WHICH INITIALLY BELONGS TO US. COME BACK TO CRICKET SRK WAS PART OF THE PURCHASER WHY DIDN'T HE BID FOR THE WHOLE TEAM INSTEAD OF KKR

 

furious says:

January 25,2010 at 10:10 PM IST

Have PEOPLE forgotten the HISTORY OF INDIA? Have people Lost SELF RESPECT?PEOPLE who are RELATED to or show and have associations to the mughal dynasty DO NOT deserve to live in India.Those Cunning,Barbaric Foreigners PURPOSEFULLY RUINED the lives of millions of Innocent people for their greediness.They are STILL Cruely DESTROYING the Culture of this country & killing innocent people.They should go away from this place. BOYCOTT there companies and the products they advertise for.

BOYCOTT THEM.

 

furious says:

January 25,2010 at 10:10 PM IST

Have PEOPLE forgotten the HISTORY OF INDIA? Have people Lost SELF RESPECT?PEOPLE who are RELATED to or show and have associations to the mughal dynasty DO NOT deserve to live in India.Those Cunning,Barbaric Foreigners PURPOSEFULLY RUINED the lives of millions of Innocent people for their greediness.They are STILL Cruely DESTROYING the Culture of this country & killing innocent people.They should go away from this place. BOYCOTT there companies and the products they advertise for.

BOYCOTT THEM.

 

KHAN says:

January 25,2010 at 10:38 PM IST

IPL=INDIA PEY LANAT...!

 

Ankit says:

January 25,2010 at 11:32 PM IST

MY FRIEND WHO IS A PROCSECUTING LAWYER AGAINST ABU SALEM, HE CLEARLY TOLD ME THAT SALMAN KHAN AND ABU SALEM ARE VERY GOOD FRIENDS, AND EVEN SALMAN KHAN IS PAYING FEES TO ABU SALEM'S LAWYERS.
SO DON'T CALL SALMAN KHAN A TRUE INDIAN.
WAKE UP INDIANS......

 

Kashan says:

January 25,2010 at 11:32 PM IST

Where was SRK during the IPL auction, we are not dumb to agree whatever they say, their has to be a proper comment...

 

Amit says:

January 25,2010 at 11:35 PM IST

My take on this matter is that the Pakistani and Indian governments are using the IPL for shadow boxing. The IPL owners have justified the exclusion of Pakistan players on financial grounds. Pray then, what prevents the Pakistani or Indian governments from offering financial insurance by holding funds in escrow until the tournament concludes successfully?

(Reply to Amit)- SACHINDRA says:

January 27,2010 at 01:37 PM IST

Any one who wants Pakistani players should go to Pakistan and play with them. The Sri Lankans had gone there and were greeted with bullets and bombs. Are we that crazy to invite them with open arms and give money also. Other sports are suffering due to fund and our Indian players there are not paid since months... Cricket has become a rich man sports.

 

Indian says:

January 26,2010 at 01:04 AM IST

Oh brilliant, we get kargil, 26/11 and countless bomb attacks, and we react by denying a few paki players some money..!!
India should grow a pair. This useless bunch next to us are our permanent enemy. Let us deal with them as such and send them back to the dark ages where their minds already are.

 

madhusudhan says:

January 26,2010 at 04:11 PM IST

Why so much noise for not selecting the pakistani cricketers. It is a business, it is the right of the investors on whom he has to put his investment.
If that is the case, why India and Pakistan are not playing the matches, let them sort out that issue with BCCI and PCB and then let they comment for not selecting their sports person, they don't have the right asking the frachinse to pick their player.

 

SACHINDRA says:

January 27,2010 at 01:32 PM IST

Use the Pakistani players to play Hockey. Any way we dont have to pay them as the Indian hockey team are unpaid and unsung heros. Chuck de India.

 

lakshmi narasimhan says:

January 27,2010 at 05:30 PM IST

Dear All,

Why there is lot of cry about not selecting the players from Pakistan for IPL , Can anyone forget 26/11 Mumbai, Pakistan sponsors terrorism and the player earns money and pay taxes at pak( hopefully) and this taxes are used by pak to kill and sponsor terrorism , how can we shake hands with the state representatives who is part of govt sponsors terrorism , Before Game Nation pride and honour is more important except Sharukhan everyone understand this and did what is right and we should not play with them at all

 

yogi says:

January 27,2010 at 05:33 PM IST

Can those people who are crying foul play gaurantee that the money that pakistanis will earn won"t be used for terrorism??

 

Ashish Goel says:

January 27,2010 at 06:12 PM IST

I somehow agree with Rajesh. There was no point to invite Pak players and then not taking them in the team. Rather IPL committee would have told them that they can't participate in the event beacuse of the tension between both the countries. These kind of things will only derail the peace process between both countries.
Things are past now, so I believe that this issue should not be seen as a poltical view point rather take it as commercial point of view. Also fanchisees can't be blamed for this discrimination. They put heavy money on players and branding of their respective teams. They can't take any risk by taking a players who may not available for whole season. They also don't want to lose their fan following by taking players of the country which doesn't have good reputation in the country.
IPL organising committee should be blamed for this mess.

 

Ujjaval Kumar says:

January 27,2010 at 06:13 PM IST

No need to apologize. You have done what we want ....

 

SJ says:

January 27,2010 at 06:17 PM IST

Why is it not mentioned in any of the reports that only 11 of the 67 players being auctioned were picked - but its big news that none from Pak made it!!
And the availability is a serious issue - if there is any attack with clear links to Pak (as it coudl very well happen), then there will be a violent reaction against the team which employs Paki players...
The entire tamasha being put up by Pak players & politicians is pathetic - for a change its happening in a country other than India! (Our politicians & media regularly make mountains out of non issues!)

 

orson says:

January 27,2010 at 06:36 PM IST

I dont really understand as to why politics is clashing with the sports at the first place.. for god's sake... the border between the 2 countries because of our intolerance and differences have made us difficult to live with one another..
If the IPL franchises does not want to buy a player, why make a big fuss of it.. why are we looking at the country, when we are suppose to be looking at the individual.. it is he who performs, not the country...and the franchisee has the full right to buy who ever they want.. as for mr. chidambaram... it is better if he would take care of other problems, rather than poking his nose into the sports arena.... where is his money invested in this game? No where, it is we who are paying to see it and enjoy... and IPL has done justice...
As per wars that have taken place between the 2 nations.. this will continue forever but I just hope in the coming years ... that educated young men and women come forward to see a better future for our children....

 

rdk says:

January 27,2010 at 06:54 PM IST

If pakistani players want peace and improve the bilateral relations, ask them to play free of charge.They won't.And why the hell we should think about them.Pakistan is responsible for terror attacks in Mumbai, hence we should boycott any trade and relation with them.Afridi and all those peices of shit are crying faul coz they have lost money minting opportunity.Just Ignore them.Its our franchises who are investing their money i.e. our money.We have full rights to select to whom we will give that money.

 

Indian says:

January 27,2010 at 09:39 PM IST

Hi fellow Indians, watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuBlHHqfIuY
Sohail Tanveer saying in interview that "Hindu Zehniyat" (mentality) is responsible for Pak players exclusion. Same Sohail who earned so much money and praise from India in IPL1. And our own SRK feels sorry for him. Stop watching movies of this pervert. Make sure MNIK fails miserably.

 

Raj says:

January 27,2010 at 09:42 PM IST

Finally some one with balls!
Why are we as a nation made to feel guilty and apologetic?
If the IPL Franchises decision was not entirely business but had some nationalism, so what is wrong with it?
If Pak players play IPL 3 edition, I am one who will not watch of read about it.
Only we as fans should be able to dictate the course of the game not Franchises, Govt of Pak Players !

 

Kumar says:

January 28,2010 at 01:19 AM IST

Dissolve the govt of Pakistan. Make Modi its president. Match result = All pak cricketers play IPL + no terrorism in the world! Happy India and Happy Pakistan!!

 

Satinder says:

January 28,2010 at 07:43 AM IST

Why in the hell we are apologizing. We clearly know that Pakistan government(through ISI) is behind all the terrorism in India. By not having bilateral ties with Pakistan is like putting sanctions on them which America's does it with countries like North Korea and Iran. I think we should ignore Pakistan cricket team and its players unless it's government stops promoting terrorism. Pakistan's cricket board and its players are begging to play with India. I hope India boycott all the cricketing ties with them till they learn the lesson.

 

pinu says:

January 28,2010 at 08:41 AM IST

Let them pull rickhaw , motor mechanc , and tailors.

 

Nisar says:

January 28,2010 at 09:44 AM IST

This is a game...But its getting more like business.
Dont ignore players.....

 

ermalai says:

January 28,2010 at 10:05 AM IST

pls dont forget 26/11. we do not want pak players. how can you invite the killers and murderers who butchered your own brothers on 26/11. We should boycott deccan chargers.

 

Universal player says:

January 28,2010 at 10:31 AM IST

are yaar.u guys don't understand the reasoning & unneccesary making noise. These paki players paid the Hotel and Travel bill using their own credit card,now they did not got selected and very difficult to pay their credit card bill. All this hungama is for that only that who will pay the bill.

 

kunalesh Roy Choudhury says:

January 28,2010 at 10:42 AM IST

If I am spending millions for someone,then that person should bring goodwill to me & my business.Lets face it,IPL is a business first & a sporting event after.Here everybody wants to win & earn.Today's new business mantra is to be cost effective & high return.Pakistani players r like Chinese goods: "Chala to chand tak,nahi to sham tak".
Can somebody answer me that "Why all the peace process should start from INDIA?"

 

shanker says:

January 28,2010 at 03:48 PM IST

Hi,
Its very good decesion taken by IPL.
In fact we should ban our all relations with pakistan till the terrorism is there.

 

Ankita says:

January 29,2010 at 08:42 PM IST

terrorism should not come in way of sportsmanship spirit. we all love IPL for sake of cricket. it really doesn't matter which country a player belongs to. a player always belongs to the TEAM.

 

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